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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bad Ambient
« on: September 06, 2014, 02:43:44 AM »
Back on topic,

I hear very little these days that I would described as being outright 'bad' ambient music. Mediocrity on the other hand, is another matter.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bad Ambient
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:49:25 AM »
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Eating with bare hands is also one of the oldest and true original ways of eating

Thanks for that, I'm always looking out for original ways to eat, I think I may stop using the digereedoos and use bare hands instead.
Bad, bad ambient...

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ableton Live ?
« on: September 03, 2014, 06:23:49 AM »
Cheers Mike, I've actually really tried to learn more about FL recently, I've really gotten into what it can do. I still very much like it, but I'm not 100% keen on everything in the program, hence I decided to look at Live to compliment it.

Julio, my set-up has gotten even simpler ! The Novation 25 is on ebay and I'm using two Launchpad minis. The thinking behind that is I can alter many things at one time with two of them. Yes, the Monolake granulator - that was the one that got me into all things granular, some years ago. In fact, I bought Reaktor primarily for that reason, as it has many granular things. I use them primarily with tonal / sonorous sources and 'scan' through them to get a bit more harmonic interest.



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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ableton Live ?
« on: September 02, 2014, 01:03:12 AM »
Well I succumbed to their offer and bought the full (standard) version. I was looking at the suite version, but even though I liked some of the included synths, the Max for Live thing wasn't really for me.

Looking forward to having a new DAW to peruse and hopefully inspire some new processes.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Online Mastering ?
« on: August 31, 2014, 01:02:31 PM »
Will have a good read of that SOS article David, cheers.

I'm not saying that I think online mastering is a 'good thing' as such, I was merely interested to try out what their algorithms would make of something I mixed and mastered myself - primarily for curiousity's sake really. I'd love to know what their 'ambient algorithm' might be :)

Also, would be interesting to send something really bizarre like a track of white noise or a low frequency sine-wave and nothing else.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Online Mastering ?
« on: August 29, 2014, 07:12:04 AM »
One of John's (JKN) posts over on the RM Ning,
http://relaxedmachinery.ning.com/profiles/blogs/finnish-super-producer-jori-hulkkonen-s-top-7-tips-for-mixing?xg_source=activity
had a link to 'LANDR', one of these online mastering services.  I know these services have been around for a while, but out of curiosity, I thought I'd give them a go - there's a link to free trial below:
https://www.landr.com/promo/UEB-TLM?utm_source=1109

I uploaded a track and lo and behold it was sent back to me 'mastered' within minutes. It was a beatless droney track (like most of my stuff !) and it came back significantly louder and with some eq lifts at around 3K and 80 Hz. It didn't sound too different - just louder. An interesting excercise none the less methinks, will try out some other stuff for further curious-ness.



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Are you looking for constructive criticism / feedback of these pieces ? I presume that's why they were posted here.

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Tomas, can the mystery yet be revealed ?

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ableton Live ?
« on: August 23, 2014, 02:22:56 AM »
Upgrade offer (until Sept 10th), if you have a Lite or Intro license:
https://www.ableton.com/en/live/feature-comparison/#live_buy

I'm tempted ! I'm now using two Launchpads with this feller's fiendishly complex, but very useful script for launchpads and Live:
http://www.nativekontrol.com/LPC-Live_2.html

For me, this is a really interesting combination. I've always been interested in looping - not 'sound on sound', but setting up a number of sounds to cycle around and to be able to start and stop them / change the loop lengths as a 'live take' of sorts, which I record and pick out the best bits afterwards.

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I use a number of headphones, but I use in ear phones for mastering. I've got a pair of Shure E500s (old version of the SE535s) for critical listening.

Yes, it can be difficult to judge bass levels (and vocal levels too, for that matter), so I also use 'har-bal' and other spectrum displays ('Span' for one)

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Interesting! So, it means you do all your work just with headphones?

Yes, I haven't used speakers to monitor or mix since 2003. I've listened to music primarily on phones all my life and I've now adapted to using them all time. I know conventional wisdom says that 'you can't mix on phones', but (for me) I much prefer the whole headphone 'experience'.

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Can't partake as I'm a 'headphone-ist', I shall have to take this to the European court of human rights :)

stamps feet and walks away...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« on: August 17, 2014, 01:29:03 PM »
'Spectral Mornings' is indeed excellent, am currently re-visiting it and it still sounds good, even now.

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'Ekstasis' said:
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if it is any genre that gear MATTER it is ambient, since all it is about is ear candy,

Somewhat off-topic from the 'debate', but I felt I had to comment on this one.
Where do you think composition comes into play ?, same for structure and dynamics in a track ? If it was all about beautiful sounding patches and exquisite reverberations, why bother trying to do anything more than play some pretty chords ? 
Any old-timers here remember 'The Universe' patch on the Korg M1 ? All you had to do was noodle around in a pentatonic minor scale and everything sounded great - but it also sounded the same as anyone else doing the same thing...

Speaking of old-timers (like myself, increasingly), it's worth bearing in mind that they may have considerable years of being musicians under their belts and they may not all be deaf either :)

There's a lot more to it than mere 'ear candy' in my view. In order to create full finished tracks is a step beyond that requires considerably more in terms of application and attention to detail.



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I was under the impression, that it was high frequency loss that came with age / over-exposure to loud sound over time.
I think it's more likely that you just don't like the spectral balance of the material.

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Show the man some respect ! I'm no Steve Roach fan-boy, but it's obvious he deeply knows what he's doing on a technical level.
A lot of artists use low frequencies to add 'weight' to their material, it's not a 'gimmick' for flips sake.



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Everything and Nothing / Re: The funniest Man that ever lived is Gone!
« on: August 13, 2014, 12:56:14 AM »
So tragic that a man who gave so much to so many through his work, was still plagued by his inner demons into later life and succumbed to them.

There's a statistic in the UK that one in four people will have mental issues at some point throughout their life, but it's not something that is openly spoke about - particularly in our celebrity driven media.

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I don't know anything about this feller, but good on him for giving a stuff about what he's trying to do.  I'd have thought that was seen (generally) as being a laudable thing ?

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Any other photography people out there ?
« on: August 10, 2014, 07:13:38 AM »
Great work Julio,

I wish I knew more about the technical aspects of black and white photography to be able to make some informed comments, but they certainly appeal to me on an aesthetic level.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« on: August 07, 2014, 02:36:14 AM »
I was never a huge fan, but I liked them quite a lot, they had a very english / pastoral sound to me. Post-gabriel, I think 'And then there were three' was a great album. Peter Gabriel's early solo work was much more to my taste - his third and fourth albums being particularly powerful and edgy.
I liked Steve Hackett's work and was fortunate to see him solo (can't remember the album he was promoting)

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