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Hypnos Label Releases / Re: Viridian Sun
« on: May 27, 2009, 12:26:15 PM »

I think that one way to keep the CD alive in such a niche genre as ambient is to make the CD as 'art
object'. I've seen a number of posts on this on this here forum and I think this is a good idea.


So is it about 'quantity' as opposed to 'quality' ?

The natural landscape here in our little old UK is stunning (in parts)
It certainly isn't an 'impoverished version' of itself.

The problem is ever increasing population encroaching on what is left unspoilt.
An individual's experience of the natural world is just that - 'individual'.
Saying that, I agree that there are very few people who have any real connection with the natural
world anymore.


Hypnos Label Releases / Re: Viridian Sun
« on: May 27, 2009, 07:21:00 AM »
Am curious to know what is going on with Hypnos in general.



'...a much impoverished version of nature...'

What a bizarre statement ???

I think walking is one of the best forms of excercise. especially If you can get out somewhere into
the natural world. A long walk really clears the mind, I get some of my better musical ideas this
way. It's free too.

On a related note, the amount of short car trips most people make is crazy. I live in a small
village and notice people driving to each others houses which are literally just around the corner.

Think yourself fitter :)

An infringement of human rights - now that is serious.

But really, I see a significant flaw in this argument. As Jim pointed out, thats why artists provide
mp3 samples. They are samples - if you want to hear an album in its entirety, then you can
buy it and support the artist.

I would imagine this is a touchy point on this forum, as it is frequented by so many artists.
Interesting to see how quickly this album got pirated.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Music, free or for sale ?
« on: April 15, 2009, 12:25:11 PM »

CD Baby in my experience do a good job.

$35 dollars set-up fee, you send them 5 copies (4 of which they sell) and they do all the digital
distribution stuff for you. They set up a page for the album with streaming mp3s.

Takes a while but they give you a lot of information about the status of the release when you login.
You can also just send them a single CD and specify it as a 'download only' release.

IODA is a better bet (more sales) but isn't open to everyone.

Interesting to hear people's opinions. I'm still of the same mind though - I still have some issues
with (some) free stuff and quality control. Saying that, I think what Kit Watkins has done in making
some of his albums available for free is very commendable - especially as they are of such high
quality. A known and respected ambient artist choosing to give some of his material away is unusual.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: How to create the Illusion...
« on: April 14, 2009, 12:11:13 PM »

I'm afraid this doesn't make any sense to me.

It's much simpler than this - experiment, experiment and then use your judgement to create
interesting material. There's no 'magic solution'/technique. You just have to come up with your own


Everything and Nothing / Re: Music, free or for sale ?
« on: April 12, 2009, 12:06:36 PM »
Anyone else interested in this, or is the new Star Trek series more pressing ?

Everything and Nothing / Music, free or for sale ?
« on: April 09, 2009, 12:20:24 PM »

I didn't want to hijack the 'US copyright rant' thread, so I've started this one.

My take on this is that i have no intention of giving my music away for free. Here's why:

Value. I spend a lot of time on my material. Even if the amount of money I make on selling my
material is small, the fact that people are prepared to buy my work is very significant to me.

How much more Exposure (let alone feedback) would I get if I released a free album ?
I would presume that the appeal of net-labels who have some 'visibility' might be a better way of
doing this. As opposed to simply uploading an album to some server space and posting a link on
forums, MySpace etc. Incidentally, I'm finding lastfm to be a great way to get exposure currently.
There's a lot of people on this forum up there.

Also, I think that if you give something away once, people may be unwilling to pay for something in
the future.

Lastly, I'm selling considerably more downloads than CDs at present and I recently was told the
following by a Japanese distributor, who has recently folded:
'...but music retailing has changed, CDs are no longer a profitable means of music distribution, and
we would like to move on and put our energy and effort into other projects.'

The times are changing, indeed.


Yeah, good on you Wayne,

Its the same over here in the UK. Some people just don't think when it comes to getting a pet and
looking after it properly.

I got my dog from a dog rescue centre called the 'Dogs Trust'. My partner and me would go to the
centre to walk dogs every weekend for 3 years. We very much wanted to 'adopt' some of these dogs,
but I wasn't able to cut down on the hours that I was working. But that changed and we were then
able to adopt a dog, knowing it wouldn't be left home-alone every day.

'Maxa' was the first dog I've 'owned' (even though I've always loved dogs) and in the early days she
was really hard work !. Unfortunately, quite a number of people give up at this stage and bring the
animal back to the centre, which makes the dog even worse.

I've seen some people actually be disappointed that they weren't able to just adopt a dog there and
then - almost as if they were shopping.   


Everything and Nothing / Re: US Copyright rant
« on: April 07, 2009, 08:19:33 AM »
I have to say I don't get the 'appeal' of this CC thing.

Could someone explain to me how it might be a good thing for an ambient artist?
I don't understand how it increases an artists exposure, the Radiohead route obviously doesn't apply
to the niche ambient scene, for one thing.

Pete K

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 30, 2009, 11:21:33 AM »

I don't know anything about the mac side of things. That mac does look good mind.
Unless your heart is set on a mac, I wouldn't discount the new PC option:

I recently bought a Desktop system based around an Intel E8400 Core 2 Duo processor (3GHz) running
Vista 64 (8GB RAM, separate drive for audio etc.) and it's dead stable and very capable. It cost me

Regarding Drum mmachine type programs, I would certainly recommend FL studio. FLS 8 is great, but
I've been working with the 8.5 Beta and thats even better. Some people deride it as a 'kids program'
but its actually surprisingly sophisticated when you 'get under the bonnet' - so to speak. I use it
a lot.


Everything and Nothing / Re: List of words it is not OK to ever say
« on: March 26, 2009, 02:52:32 PM »
'teh' and 'shyte' - Internet crap

it's 'the' and 'shite' - for feks sake

Ossome !

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 16, 2009, 09:47:37 AM »

ambrose field - being dufay [ecm] - an absolutely amazing album.  John Potter(Hilliard Ensemble) sings fragments of works by composer Guillaume Dufay (1397-1494).  The vocals are accompanied by live- and studio electronics performed by Ambrose Field, recycling and reworking Potter’s vocal input.  The result is spectacular.  Here their website...Being Dufay

It's a small world.
I studied under Ambrose Field when I was at York Uni 11 years ago. He
taught electroacoustic music composition. I heard a fair bit of his material at concerts
performed at the Jack Lyons concert hall there. I have to say I wasn't a fan. In fact, his
style of high octane, 'uber-Hifi' material made me want to do something of a much more
subtle nature.

Saying that, the track on the link is far more engaging.


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 10, 2009, 02:47:23 AM »
Jaz Coleman is truly a warped individual, but I still love 'im.

Agreed, Mr Coleman is a visionary or a madman - probably both.
I don't hear the sheer intensity of the likes of 'Asteroid', 'Money is not our God' and 'Exorcism' anywhere else.

Quite an antidote to mediocrity !


It's sad to see any artist pack it in.

There's no harm in having high hopes, but you have to be realistic these days - and tenacious.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Igneous News
« on: March 07, 2009, 01:57:00 PM »

2 releases for 2009:

'Electra' Amorphous guitar-scapes. 7th Igneous Flame solo release

'Harmonium' Darkly serene, ambient Harmonium. Igneous Flame/Disturbed Earth

Artwork by Kati Astraeir

More details/info to follow...


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Fordlandia
« on: February 05, 2009, 01:40:56 PM »

I saw him play with Kitchen Motors in 2006 at The Shed in Hovingham, North Yorkshire.
They were extremely good and it was great to see such a 'hip' outfit play out in the middle of

Eccentric lot, those Icelandic people.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« on: February 05, 2009, 01:35:39 PM »

I'm not devaluing the use of compressors, but as APK and others has pointed out, corrective Eq may
be useful to your needs.

I use a parametric Eq very often, it is a very useful tool for 'sculpting' harsh or peaky/boomy
sounds. Real-time spectrum analysers are also very useful as they allow you to see the frequency
ranges that are problematic, which you can cut with the Eq.

In 'corrective' cases I always cut the offending frequency ranges using High or Low Q values
depending on the case. Very high Q cuts are great for removing peaky resonances without unduly
affecting the rest of the frequency spectrum. Low Q values for say a 200Hz to 300Hz 'boomy' peak.

I should point out, that this is something I do on any of the sounds in a multitrack session that
are problematic - not just on the Mixdown.

Also, as has been mentioned, cutting the very low and very high end (to a lesser degree), is
good practice. 

Lastly, on a personal note, I would never use reverb at the end of any chain regarding mastering.


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