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Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Now watching...
« on: October 12, 2009, 02:40:12 PM »

'Keine Lust' by Rammstein, this is the 'normal' version !:




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Packaging / artwork is one thing, but the music is the work. I would imagine in most cases, the
packaging /artwork is an afterthought. Looked at once the music has been finished, Sure, its
important (as are the album name and track titles) and part of the whole 'package', but its not the
primary artistic statement.

Anyone can release as much material as they want to these days.
In an increasingly 'instant' culture, I'd be curious to know how much time was spent on an album and
how much time an artist thinks might be needed to create the album. Forrest's comment on him taking
a year on a single track, shows a serious commitment to the work. I would say this level of
committing such a large amount of time is rare these days. I'm not saying spending 10 years on an
album is a good thing, but recording a 'jam' and releasing it as an album swings to the other side
of things.

My feeling is that over time, listeners will tire of all the huge amount of stuff out there. After
all, there's only so many hours in the day to listen to music. Equally some artists will tire of
releasing their work.

While it fair to say theres a lot of samey-ness/recycling in ambient, it doesn't apply to every
artist. Maybe one can tire of ambient ?. Certainly I'd like to hear a wider variety of interesting
sound(s) in the genre.

What do listeners want from the 'scene' ? I really don't know. For me, I think the bottom line is
Quality - quality work that can be listened to repeatedly and reveal new elements over time.
On the subject of fidelity, the content is king. A fantastic production is highly desirable, but not
at the expense of the content.

cheers
Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The ambient 'scene'
« on: October 06, 2009, 12:38:35 PM »
Cheers Mike,   

I still think that the way people are coming across ambient music can be termed 'underground'.
People who don't 'follow the scene' can still pick up on ambient through Lastfm and MySpace for
example and people who like it already can listen to the Streaming radio stations and come across
new artists / material. Streaming radio shows like 'Drone Zone' and Stillstream are great for
artists (exposure) and listener (the aforementioned reasons) alike.

Then shows like Ultima Thule archive their shows as podcasts and then there's 'dedicated' ambient podcasts themselves. For an artist
its great to get this kind of exposure.

cheers
Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Igneous News
« on: October 05, 2009, 01:19:43 PM »
There's a review of my 'Electra' album over at the Hypnagogue site.

I won't quote the review here, as I'm sure some people get a bit sick of artists posting reviews and
the like. It can be read at his site here:
http://hypnagogue.netfirms.com/

There's an interesting section on his site titled 'Lexicon' too.

lastly, John (the Hypnagogue) asked me the question:
'It seems to me that you are in a constant state of refining and redefining the essence of your
musical identity. How is the Igneous Flame of Oxana different than the Igneous who created Electra?'


My response is under 'Glimpse'
http://hypnagogue.netfirms.com/glimpse-if.html

cheers
Pete

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This is very true.

This is also why the majority of artists release CD-Rs instead of pressed CDs. Sure, it'd be great
to be able to sell a pressed CD, but there's not many ambient artists who can sell 500 CDs these
days.

It's not a case of 'Doing it on the cheap'. It's the gloomy state of CD sales making artists ensure
they can afford to release their material now, and in the future.

Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The ambient 'scene'
« on: September 30, 2009, 01:54:02 PM »

I stand corrected ! There's life in the old dog yet. Many interesting points, will respond properly
ASAP.

cheers
Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The ambient 'scene'
« on: September 25, 2009, 06:11:51 AM »
Yeah Bill,

The lack of response suggests that things have changed.
Self promotion / 'what I'm listening to' / 'lifestyle' postings and the like seems to be the order
of the day, hereabouts.

What about the bigger picture - the changes to the whole online ambient 'scene', from artists and
listener perspectives ?

cheers
Pete

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Guitars picking up noise from PC
« on: September 22, 2009, 02:48:55 AM »

I still think that you should ensure that the earthing is good on your guitar and that you use
decently shielded cables. Also, ensure the screws to the jackplate are tightened firmly. It's more
likely that this could be the cause of your problem.
Jeff's advice is good.

Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The ambient 'scene'
« on: September 22, 2009, 02:47:49 AM »
Hi Robert,

Interesting comments. I'm not sure what you're getting at with the 'curation' point, though.
Perhaps you're right in that the listener is the winner with the way things are going now.

Ambient bands, now there's a thing :)

cheers
Pete

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aul,

I wrote some stuff below which may not be relevant if you're trying to revive your machine.

You say the fans run and the mobo light comes on, is the hard drive spinning up and is the screen
dead ? If so, try taking out the battery on the mobo to reset the CMOS. I have to say I'm not very
familiar with this stuff, but it worked for me. My PC seemed dead and this brought it back to life.

///earlier stuff I was going to post///

I think there's a fair bit of 'smoke and mirrors' regarding CPU benchmarks and real world use. I had
a system recently built for me based around a E8400. It's a music only non-internet machine (no
anti-virus / firewall proghrams burbling around in the background). I primarily use FLstudio and
Audition. I've yet to hit anywhere the CPU limit running loads of vst instruments and plug-ins.

The CPU is considered to be 'slow' relative to i7 processors, but it's a lot cheaper and uses less
power.

I'm not suggesting you go down this route (regarding this particular CPU), as its probably a bit out
of date now, but it suits my needs fine. Just some food for thought.

cheers
Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / The ambient 'scene'
« on: September 20, 2009, 07:01:46 AM »

I started looking on the Internet around 2003 for forums, review sites and radio stations that were
concerned with ambient music. I was surprised with how much I found back then.

It seems to me that the ambient 'scene' has changed, in that in a sense, it has become more
'underground'. There aren't the number of review sites around that there were, for one thing. The Internet radio
thing such as Somafm, Stillstream, lastfm et al, all 'broadcasting' 24/7 is an interesting
phenomenom. Myspace and lastfm (in particular) have shown to me that there is a much more diverese
audience for ambient music than I realised. The musical element of the networking sites have changed
things significantly, as has podcasting.

Regarding this here forum, it's interesting to see people come and go. People who were once very
prolific in their posting now don't post at all (that's just an observation, not a criticism).
I think this forum is still a significant resource for ambient music. For example, the
self-promotion element hasn't changed - most artists still do that (myself included). However, the
sheer volume of releases out there and all the free stuff made available seems to have diluted
things somewhat, When I first came here there was quite a 'buzz' regarding new releases. There seems
to be less debate about ambient music and more in the way of recommendations, promotion and
opinions.

Curious to hear other people's thoughts, particularly people who have been part of the 'scene' for
some time.

cheers
Pete

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Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Upcoming Hypnos releases?
« on: September 20, 2009, 02:55:21 AM »
Ta for the reply Mike,

I would imagine it would be a lot of work to setup, but I see that you've got the name and a shop
front template sorted already.

cheers
Pete

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Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Upcoming Hypnos releases?
« on: September 18, 2009, 02:05:40 AM »
Mike,

Packaging aside, I'm still curious about the Hypnos download store idea.

Pete

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Guitars picking up noise from PC
« on: September 16, 2009, 06:46:55 AM »
Hi Mike,

Listened to 'noise4'. Yep, thats pretty noisy. Here's some points that may be relevant:

Is there some kind of noisegate in your setup ? May account for the 'pauses' depending on the threshold at which it kicks in.

Are you using an older CRT monitor ?. These alwys caused buzzings, particularly with single coil pickups

Obviously noise comes with a high gain / overdrive setup. How are things with a clean sound ?

Is your guitar earthed properly ? - does the noise increase when you take your hand off the strings ? I've found that liberal amounts of copper tape does the job here.

I presume you know that some noise reduction software can do a pretty good job of guitar noise. Make a slection of the noise itself then apply the NR.


cheers
Pete

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Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Upcoming Hypnos releases?
« on: September 13, 2009, 07:19:29 AM »
Jesse,

These days, I think the vast majority of ambient artists would be pushed to sell 1000 CDs.

Mike, out of interest, why have you held back on the mooted Hypnos download store ?

cheers
Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Igneous News
« on: September 10, 2009, 02:27:06 AM »
Radioplay of a different sort...

'V' from 'Harmonium' and my 'Lyke Wake Dirge' rework on the Atmoworks compilation were played on the
'Sideways through Sound' radio program yesterday (9/9/9)
http://www.sidewaysthroughsound.com/

Broadcasting on the Sydney (Australia) based radio station 2ser. The shows are archived as podcasts
and can be downloaded from the sideways website (playlists section).
Its a primarily folk music based show (and is damn fine too), so I'm pleased that the DJ (Thee Sonic
Assasin) played something ambient. I'm dead chuffed !

cheers
Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Igneous News
« on: August 16, 2009, 05:04:44 AM »

'Harmonium' review at Hypnagogue
http://hypnagogue.netfirms.com/

Igneous Flame & Disturbed Earth, Harmonium

'Listening to Harmonium, the new collaborative work from Igneous Flame and Disturbed Earth, is like
spending an hour wrapped in a warm bank of fog that sighs around you, spectral shapes forming out of
the mist to laze and drift past. It is complete immersion in an unimpeded stream of gentle sound
that utterly calms the mind and spirit and slows the breath. Elegantly simple in feeling but
offering so much when listened to deeply, the tracks here are expertly layered, with Dean Richardsí
pedal harmonium creations floating and rolling quietly through Pete Kellyís sonic manipulations, the
alchemical blend turning them to softly pulsing dreamspaces. This is a perfect CD for meditation or
for low-volume looping during sleep. For pure, atmospheric drifts, this is one of the best releases
Iíve heard this year. A brilliant piece of work, and a Hypnagogue Highly Recommended CD.'


cheers John !

Pete

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: August 07, 2009, 12:17:16 PM »
'Immersion'

You're barking up the wrong tree with this.

Reverberation isn't an instrument and it's not going to be an integral part of writing interesting
material. The 'input' to any reverberation process is still the primary point of interest

Incidentally, The best quality reverb we hear every day - natural reverberation. Its a 'descriptor'
of acoustic spaces. Clap your hands in different rooms and places, go to a cathederal and get a
longer decay, try the same in tunnels and the like. It's still not a musical parameter as such.

Saying that, Jim Cole's overtone singing in a water tower is an instance where an artist used a
particular (physical) acoustic to interact with in a performance:

http://www.spectralvoices.com/secondpg.htm

Pete

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For me, I don't get a link between ambient and classical.

I know thats a very broad statement and it only applies to my limited knowledge of classical music
and what I consider to be 'good' ambient.

I think the distinction between the two is that the ambient to which I'm referring too can create
'new' sonic spaces. What I mean by that is the element of manipulation of sound - so that even
acoustic sources can be drastically transformed. The sound becomes amorphous. I get a sense of the
mysterious and the ethereal from some ambient, which I don't get from classical. 

Structure is an entirely different matter, as is tempo, how does a drone have tempo ?
'Play very very slowly with feeling' :)

I can't see a link between the electronic textures in ambient and any kind of instrumentation in
classical, or the use of field recordings, vocal samples, glitch etc.

Have there been many scores written for ambient music ?

cheers
Pete

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Igneous News
« on: August 03, 2009, 01:30:14 PM »

'Full Spectrum Dominance'

Unreleased track.
To be played LOUD - on headphones (constructed from binaural recordings)

http://www.petekelly.eclipse.co.uk/full_spectrum_dominance.mp3

cheers
Pete

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