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'...a much impoverished version of nature...'

What a bizarre statement ???

I think walking is one of the best forms of excercise. especially If you can get out somewhere into
the natural world. A long walk really clears the mind, I get some of my better musical ideas this
way. It's free too.

On a related note, the amount of short car trips most people make is crazy. I live in a small
village and notice people driving to each others houses which are literally just around the corner.

Think yourself fitter :)

Everything and Nothing / Re: Music, free or for sale ?
« on: April 15, 2009, 12:25:11 PM »

CD Baby in my experience do a good job.

$35 dollars set-up fee, you send them 5 copies (4 of which they sell) and they do all the digital
distribution stuff for you. They set up a page for the album with streaming mp3s.

Takes a while but they give you a lot of information about the status of the release when you login.
You can also just send them a single CD and specify it as a 'download only' release.

IODA is a better bet (more sales) but isn't open to everyone.

Interesting to hear people's opinions. I'm still of the same mind though - I still have some issues
with (some) free stuff and quality control. Saying that, I think what Kit Watkins has done in making
some of his albums available for free is very commendable - especially as they are of such high
quality. A known and respected ambient artist choosing to give some of his material away is unusual.


Everything and Nothing / Re: Music, free or for sale ?
« on: April 12, 2009, 12:06:36 PM »
Anyone else interested in this, or is the new Star Trek series more pressing ?

Everything and Nothing / Music, free or for sale ?
« on: April 09, 2009, 12:20:24 PM »

I didn't want to hijack the 'US copyright rant' thread, so I've started this one.

My take on this is that i have no intention of giving my music away for free. Here's why:

Value. I spend a lot of time on my material. Even if the amount of money I make on selling my
material is small, the fact that people are prepared to buy my work is very significant to me.

How much more Exposure (let alone feedback) would I get if I released a free album ?
I would presume that the appeal of net-labels who have some 'visibility' might be a better way of
doing this. As opposed to simply uploading an album to some server space and posting a link on
forums, MySpace etc. Incidentally, I'm finding lastfm to be a great way to get exposure currently.
There's a lot of people on this forum up there.

Also, I think that if you give something away once, people may be unwilling to pay for something in
the future.

Lastly, I'm selling considerably more downloads than CDs at present and I recently was told the
following by a Japanese distributor, who has recently folded:
'...but music retailing has changed, CDs are no longer a profitable means of music distribution, and
we would like to move on and put our energy and effort into other projects.'

The times are changing, indeed.


Yeah, good on you Wayne,

Its the same over here in the UK. Some people just don't think when it comes to getting a pet and
looking after it properly.

I got my dog from a dog rescue centre called the 'Dogs Trust'. My partner and me would go to the
centre to walk dogs every weekend for 3 years. We very much wanted to 'adopt' some of these dogs,
but I wasn't able to cut down on the hours that I was working. But that changed and we were then
able to adopt a dog, knowing it wouldn't be left home-alone every day.

'Maxa' was the first dog I've 'owned' (even though I've always loved dogs) and in the early days she
was really hard work !. Unfortunately, quite a number of people give up at this stage and bring the
animal back to the centre, which makes the dog even worse.

I've seen some people actually be disappointed that they weren't able to just adopt a dog there and
then - almost as if they were shopping.   


Everything and Nothing / Re: US Copyright rant
« on: April 07, 2009, 08:19:33 AM »
I have to say I don't get the 'appeal' of this CC thing.

Could someone explain to me how it might be a good thing for an ambient artist?
I don't understand how it increases an artists exposure, the Radiohead route obviously doesn't apply
to the niche ambient scene, for one thing.

Pete K

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 30, 2009, 11:21:33 AM »

I don't know anything about the mac side of things. That mac does look good mind.
Unless your heart is set on a mac, I wouldn't discount the new PC option:

I recently bought a Desktop system based around an Intel E8400 Core 2 Duo processor (3GHz) running
Vista 64 (8GB RAM, separate drive for audio etc.) and it's dead stable and very capable. It cost me

Regarding Drum mmachine type programs, I would certainly recommend FL studio. FLS 8 is great, but
I've been working with the 8.5 Beta and thats even better. Some people deride it as a 'kids program'
but its actually surprisingly sophisticated when you 'get under the bonnet' - so to speak. I use it
a lot.


Everything and Nothing / Re: List of words it is not OK to ever say
« on: March 26, 2009, 02:52:32 PM »
'teh' and 'shyte' - Internet crap

it's 'the' and 'shite' - for feks sake

Ossome !

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 16, 2009, 09:47:37 AM »

ambrose field - being dufay [ecm] - an absolutely amazing album.  John Potter(Hilliard Ensemble) sings fragments of works by composer Guillaume Dufay (1397-1494).  The vocals are accompanied by live- and studio electronics performed by Ambrose Field, recycling and reworking Potterís vocal input.  The result is spectacular.  Here their website...Being Dufay

It's a small world.
I studied under Ambrose Field when I was at York Uni 11 years ago. He
taught electroacoustic music composition. I heard a fair bit of his material at concerts
performed at the Jack Lyons concert hall there. I have to say I wasn't a fan. In fact, his
style of high octane, 'uber-Hifi' material made me want to do something of a much more
subtle nature.

Saying that, the track on the link is far more engaging.


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 10, 2009, 02:47:23 AM »
Jaz Coleman is truly a warped individual, but I still love 'im.

Agreed, Mr Coleman is a visionary or a madman - probably both.
I don't hear the sheer intensity of the likes of 'Asteroid', 'Money is not our God' and 'Exorcism' anywhere else.

Quite an antidote to mediocrity !


It's sad to see any artist pack it in.

There's no harm in having high hopes, but you have to be realistic these days - and tenacious.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Igneous News
« on: March 07, 2009, 01:57:00 PM »

2 releases for 2009:

'Electra' Amorphous guitar-scapes. 7th Igneous Flame solo release

'Harmonium' Darkly serene, ambient Harmonium. Igneous Flame/Disturbed Earth

Artwork by Kati Astraeir

More details/info to follow...


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Fordlandia
« on: February 05, 2009, 01:40:56 PM »

I saw him play with Kitchen Motors in 2006 at The Shed in Hovingham, North Yorkshire.
They were extremely good and it was great to see such a 'hip' outfit play out in the middle of

Eccentric lot, those Icelandic people.


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 22, 2009, 03:24:28 PM »
kettel live in Rotterdam

Free download from 'ere:

Bit pedestrian in parts - in others, truly super. Rock on Reimer, he knows his onions - for sure.


Everything and Nothing / Re: For Audiophiles Only!
« on: January 16, 2009, 10:08:25 AM »
I don't think these will work. It's the knobs that are more important to the sound.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Tauern
« on: January 16, 2009, 10:07:01 AM »
Hi Matthew,

Cool to see you here, listening now to 'The DeadspellStorm' - fantastic atmospheric ambience.

I know what you mean about the physical CD release thing, it's getting harder. I do much better with downloads these days, but I still love the process of getting a CD released.


Everything and Nothing / Re: It's a new year... let's introduce ourselves
« on: January 13, 2009, 01:25:26 PM »
Pete Kelly, I record under the pseudonym 'Igneous Flame'

A few things about me:

I live a few miles away from the North York Moors in Blighty with my partner Denise and my hound
Maxa. I've left the 'real world' behind, in a sense.

I'm able to work on my music full-time at the moment. I work VERY slowly, I wish I could get more
material finished sometimes, but I just keep at it. I think tenacity is a much undervalued quality.

I try to create music that is unique (in as much as anything can be, realistically). I very much
believe in the value of ambient music - of what it can do for people. I'm not interested in what I
consider to be 'ambient muzak'.

I'm extremely opinionated and my opinions are quite extreme - I don't believe in what we're told


Everything and Nothing / Re: How to stay interested in music?
« on: January 12, 2009, 01:07:07 PM »
Wowweee :D

IM-AARP-O, I tend to see video games as a dividing line between people over and under 50.  A not all inclusive number, but you get my drift, daddy-o.  I won't go either way on what games do to people, because I don't play.  I consider adventure games the biggest waste of time in the modern world. 

I'm under 50 and I agree with Wayne on this one. The only game I found remotely interesting was Peter Gabriels's 'EVE'. But hey, I do the MySpace thing which is probably an equally great waste of time as well !


Everything and Nothing / Re: How to stay interested in music?
« on: January 11, 2009, 02:03:59 PM »

I have to say, I don't understand the whole 'gaming culture' at all. I last played anything
resembling a computer game, (an arcade game actually called 'Asteroids') when I was a teenager.

I don't feel I have missed out, I've known lots of people people spend heaps of time on them. I'd
rather spend time working on music instead.  I have to profess that I know very little about 'Music
for Games' (Ambient 5 perhaps ?)

I do know about music burnout though, personally I tend to do more photography when that occurs.
Yeah, sonic stillness is fantastic, but sadly unattainable in most people's lives.


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