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Everything and Nothing / Re: The "free for all" section of this Forum
« on: September 11, 2008, 06:58:43 AM »
Personally, I'd like to see this section permanently closed.
I never saw its relevance to the rest of the forum.


Hey Alan,

Close - but no cigar.
I think they are similiar - but not that similiar, will report back later when the files have been sent
to the 'sonic laboratory' :)

I take it this is the sequence:
A(1) Gel-Sol
B(1) Hammock
A(2) Gel-Sol
B(2) Hammock


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: A nice video of the Moog Guitar
« on: September 03, 2008, 12:12:42 PM »
Yep, Giorgio and Jeff are right, the volume pedal is a major ambient guitar tool and very cheap too.

Not sure about this Moog guitar, I would certainly like to try one out mind you - but I don't think there
is much chance of that :)

Incidentally, I used to have a Gibson RD Artist

I had the maple body version, which had a Moog designed circuit onboard, with a fantastic compressor and
some bizarre eq circuits. Best bloody guitar I ever had that one, wish I'd never sold it.


Listening: Podcasts, Mixes, and Music Sample Clips / Re: Grace Jones remix
« on: September 02, 2008, 02:12:11 PM »
Fierce remix, fantastic production too !

Well done.


Speaking for myself as an artist, this is one of the most important developments in the ambient world of
late (and beyond) which I think will make some artists considerably re-consider their practice. For me, I
think Mike has made some very important points / observations (which I agree with) regarding this, and he
certainly pulls no punches in his response to 'Snapping Turtle's post, where he said:

'...Implying that a huge influx of "free download" amateurs have glutted the ambient music market does
not say anything about whether the genre has peaked. How is one connected to the other?  I think the work
being done by the best artists is as good as it has ever been, but I see no contradiction in asserting
that the average level of quality is dropping due to the huge crowd of less-serious beginners using
Reason or Acid to throw together a few pieces of music and offer it for free download...'   

I wonder how the 'free culture' will change in time after its initial lustre has worn off - the
prevalence of the 'free' may develop into a general apathy / significant lack of quality control which
won't make for a healthy scene for anyone. For example, Where's any kind of sustainability for 'serious'
artists - artists in it for the long-term ? Seren's point regarding nothing being really free is a very
interesting one. Philosophically, nothing is free - in terms of the energy that is put into any project.
Will some artists just give up, if the feedback (alone) isn't sufficient to sustain them ?

My plan is to carry on releasing CD(r)s and just see how things go, whilst also making all my material
available on the (legal) download sites. I'm curious to hear people's experiences of their download sales
vs. CD sales ? I'm finding a much larger audience from iTunes et al and having a relesased a reasonable
number of albums helps.

Lastly, anyone know the arcane workings of Lastfm ? I've noticed that Mirko / Deepspace is pretty active


I liked his last collaboration with Lustmord, but his solo stuff just doesn't work for me.


Om Shanti and deep winds

Why don't Robert Rich and Steve Roach release free music ?

I think the truth is that they know people are prepared to buy it.
Given the choice, I imagine all the artists who release free material would prefer it if people were
willing for pay them for their music.

Personally, I don't intend to release any free albums. My albums may not sell in vast quantities, but I'm
not prepared to give my work away. Like a number of artists (I imagine), I could release 3 albums next month if I wanted to (from all the
work-in-progress / unused material that I have), but I would rather take the time to make one good
release next year. 


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New work and changes...
« on: August 12, 2008, 08:07:40 AM »
Thanks Joe, it's appreciated  :)

'HALO' was kind of a side-project to the 'Flicker' album, I approached it in a more 'experimental'
fashion and incorporated some spatial processes I'd developed / stumbled across.
There's some processed binaural stuff on there as well.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Forum members on
« on: August 06, 2008, 02:26:36 AM »

I've had all my material up on emusic for a few years now. I don't have a subscription with them, but they seem a good set-up and there is a lot of ambient stuff on there.


Hi Kirk

From what I remember, Saul originally posted the idea on the old forum in December 2005
He sent out DVDs of all the source sounds used in each track from his 'Vast' album.
I got 'Chrome Garden', which I sent on to another artist as this was part of Saul's idea.

I think in the end, only APK and myself actually finished the reworks. My rework took me a Long time to do
as I incorporated versions of Saul's beats and worked in a very different way to the way I usually do. It
was a very interesting project though, I was quite pleased with my rework and I learned a lot in the
process. Saul seemed to like it too !

Kahvi released a mini-ep including the remix I did here:


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New work and changes...
« on: August 04, 2008, 12:23:11 PM »
Cheers 9 Dragons,

I chose Kati's artwork. Yes, she is a fantastic artist and has done the covers for quite a few ambient artist's albums (Numina comes to mind) and recently for the British 'Doom-metal' band, 'Esoteric'.

The tree image was her Myspace avatar for some time and I think it's a very strong image.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New work and changes...
« on: August 02, 2008, 02:35:45 AM »
I'm chuffed to say that...

Igneous Flame and Achromus have now released their two collaborative 'sister' albums, 'Flicker' and 'HALO'

'Flicker' is a CD release and is available from the LuminaSounds site:
and from CDBaby here (with all tracks streamed for your listening perusal) 
It will be available as a download from all the major sites soon.

'HALO' has been released on AtmoWorks and is available as a download on their site here (cheers 'John's' !)
It will be released as a CDr through Hypnos shortly.

A lot of work went into these albums and I have to say I'm rather proud as to how they've turned out !


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New work and changes...
« on: July 07, 2008, 08:49:54 AM »
Thanks for the comment, Ben  :)

Here's some more info about the upcoming releases:

The Collaboration
‘Flicker’ and ‘HALO‘ came out of a collaboration between UK based ambient artists, Igneous Flame (Pete Kelly) and Achromus (Michael Stringer). In February 2007, Michael gave Pete a pool of synth based material that he had been working on and Pete produced the albums ‘Flicker’ and ‘HALO’ from that pool. The material became split into two, the more sonorous material was reworked and guitar textures were incorporated, this material became the ‘Flicker’ album. The other darker and more ‘raw’ material was extensively processed and this resulted in the ‘HALO’ album. Some of the original material has been used in both albums - albeit in a ‘Re-cycled’ manner.

The more accessible of the two releases, ‘Flicker’ is primarily tonal with an under-current of ethereal mystery and depth. Constructed from Achromus’s synth textures and Igneous Flame’s e-bow guitar lines and abstracted harmonic shapes, melodic phrases are woven around tonally shifting soundscapes. The album’s dark luminosity shines throughout.
Composition, guitar, sound-design and production by Igneous Flame
Composition and synths/pads (source sounds) by Achromus
'Sinuhe' (edit)
'Salve'  (edit)
'Colourfield' (edit)
'Sense of Return' (edit)
'Accumulator' (full track 4:23)

‘HALO’ is a hypnotic, visceral and primarily textural long-form work, vivid in colour and dynamics, ranging from intensely industrial to pastoral with an underlying esoteric subtlety present throughout.A significant element of the album is the result of extensive sound-design and spatial processing, for which headphone listening is recommended.
Production by Igneous FlameComposition by Igneous Flame / Achromus
'Halo' (edit)

Artwork by Kati Astraeir


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New work and changes...
« on: June 30, 2008, 07:45:30 AM »
Whoops, forgot to mention that,
cheers 8)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / New work and changes...
« on: June 30, 2008, 01:42:17 AM »
My self-release imprint 'Chillfactor10 records' is no more. It was something
that I inherited and I think its outlived its purpose. I've set up a new label
with UK based artist 'Achromus' called 'LuminaSounds' The website is at an
early stage of development, but I'm adding content daily.
It's here:

I've made a link to the Chillfactor10 site which I'm keeping 'alive' as an archive
as theres a fair bit of info there. 

Achromus and myself will be releasing two albums in July, 'Flicker' and 'HALO'
We've set up a MySpace profile for the collaboration:

'Flicker' will be released as a CD-R on 'LuminaSounds', and 'HALO' will be
released as a download on AtmoWorks.
More info to follow...


I think this 'Ning thing' has considerable potential - it's the realisation of the amalgm of things that this new fangled web 2.0 promised. Good on Atmoworks for running with it !

cheers Pete

RIP Gordon. Very sad news

Other Ambient (and related) Music / 1000 True Fans
« on: April 22, 2008, 01:39:23 AM »
1000 True Fans

Very interesting blog on Robert Rich's MySpace page:


Everything and Nothing / Re: Ambient Guitar
« on: April 22, 2008, 01:36:28 AM »
Well it appears I may well have been wrong about 'ambient guitar' being overlooked,
judging by the many artists (mostly unknown to me) named here

Dave, I checked out the Scott Solter album's mp3 snips - very nice.
Hi Jeff, cool to see one of the top (IMO) ambient guitar geezers reply. I tried that Ebow thing - wierd one ! I couldn't get much out of the one Sundummy posted - maybe I was doing it wrong.  ???


Not wishing to hijack this thread, but I think it might be interesting to open out the 'ambient
guitar' discussion into a wider er, forum. So I've started a separate thread in the 'Everything and
Nothing' section, if anyones interested.


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