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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CDR prices too high
« on: November 14, 2009, 02:02:15 PM »
I used an example on Boomkat ( a favourite site) A Flac download is 9 pounds,that is $16 CDN $.I-Tunes as far as I know says it is lossless if you transfer your own cds,if you buy their downloads,it is 256.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CDR prices too high
« on: November 14, 2009, 12:18:36 AM »
I totally agree with Brian and Uhurit.
My poor experiences with CD-Rs has turned me off forever,too bad.
I use electronics by Mark Levinson,Linn,Revel,etc... and you can hear the difference between downloads and CD format,at least with I-Tunes so no interest with that though the ease of I-Tunes is impressive.Flac is much better though but still,a Flac download can cost more than a CD,sometimes 15-16.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus, part two
« on: November 05, 2009, 11:12:44 PM »
Scott,I saw New Order in TO in 85 near the airport for the Low Life tour.A Certain Ratio opened.I read the same review.Quite awful,pretty much what Mike said but on record,they are on of my favorites.Temptation is in my top 5 songs ever.Check out Barneys new band-Bad Lieutenant,not my thing but a few decent tracks.
PS- just came back from one of my installs in a club,20 minutes there and my ears are ringing,just too loud but the kids love it and the DJs just keep pushing the levels up.I got it locked down with compressors and limiters but the client says louder,so what can you do.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus, part two
« on: November 04, 2009, 11:19:39 PM »
Oh,New Order.Amazing band but their live sound was renowned for being bad.Saw them in 82,85,88,2001.
Ear plugs,it is the only way to see live audio but go for the pro custom molds like ER-15s from Westone.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 07, 2009, 06:52:53 PM »
Jeff Greinke-Soundtracks.APK turned me onto this.Really amazing,your mind can imagine the film.

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This a great thread.I agree that the packaging has little value if the music is sub par.I do remember the days though when I would buy the artist for the music first but the artwork was not far behind.These were the days of LPs,for me 1978-1985.I remember listening to Kraftwerk-Man Machine,Ultravox -Rage in Eden or New Order-Power,Corruption,Lies or Seti on Instinct and staring at the covers.Art work by Peter Saville or Taylor Deupree is still amazing.I also like the consistency of artwork-packaging on Hypnos or Kranky.And I have never bought music as an investment to re-sell.I was once told always collect art (music,paintings,books,etc..) because you love it first.if later,you can think of selling it,then fine.I would rather give away my music to someone who would appreciate it instead of getting $4.Of course,if I can get $50 for a Fax title,well maybe...

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I agree with Mark.
Too much out there.One of the reasons I slowed way down on collecting music (I am not an artist) is that
there is too much of the same,whatever the label or artist.That is why in another thread I said I admired David Sylvain for at least going on a different tangent.To the artist who has put out 6 or 10 Cds that are all similar,change it up.One of the many reasons I-Tunes is popular is because of the single track purchase.Most releases have a few good tracks,the rest is rubbish.I do not buy the singles as I am a whole CD type but if you are going to that,make sure it is interesting.
I do agree that downloads are the future-it is here,and the concept is brilliant.I am just a hold over from the CD era,before that,vinyl.
And yes,CD-Rs are cheaper and it may cost an artist much more money to put out a pressed CD only to sell 50.But chances are that artist will not get my attention.
Again,for me,audio quality is important.I will not buy anymore CD-Rs as much as I may enjoy the music or artist as the technical aspect will fail.So to those who put out CD-Rs ( and there is a place for them) increase the quality control.I have ordered some in the past that would not play or that had a massive sound glitch of noise in the middle of a 10 minute track,not pleasant on headphones I can tell you.
And what about longer samples of each song or a few complete songs.How can I get an idea of a 20 minute song or a 70 minute CD from 3 minutes of samples.I recently listed to Rapoon ( a fav.) on My Space and the 7 tracks there in full was interesting.Or go to the PIL site (who reformed) and they have a player with 20 full songs.Or go to Boomkat.com,a full song of every track for download to listen to.(though with a beep every 30 seconds.)

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The ambient 'scene'
« on: September 29, 2009, 08:43:47 PM »
 My incredibly quick take (!): though I discovered electronic music in 1980, with Kraftwerk and soon followed by Eno, Jarre, Vangelis, etc., I would say I discovered ambient in 1993 with Fax then quickly followed by Hypnos. This new generation of ambient was exciting to me, as I suppose every new generation of music is exciting to its new fans. One of the key reasons that I drastically slowed down my collecting of ambient music is because of two things: one, lack of innovation in ambient, and two, lack of audio quality in CD-R and downloads. Regarding first point - to me, ambient with the advent, as Mike pointed out, of labels such as Fax, Silent, Warp, Fathom, etc., presented original sounds and ideas. To me, recently there has been a constant repetition of nearly every artist's previous works. Call it recycling. I am not particularly interested in collecting a dozen CD's by the same artist if they all sound the same. I could go on...regarding the second point - I have had a terrible run of paying for and collecting CD-R's from various labels which have all but disintegrated. I will not be continuing this practice. And I can still tell the difference between download, MP-3 and CD quality (not going to get into MP-3 vs flac). I do admit that this mode of distribution is way forward from the way things used to be.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 24, 2009, 10:13:12 PM »
Yes,it does get cold here,sometimes down to -30C in Jan. but overall not bad.BC down to LA though is wonderful.I have been to Vancouver and thought it was great.West Coast VS East Coast.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 21, 2009, 07:56:36 PM »
Mark,

I am in Montreal.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 18, 2009, 10:38:56 PM »
Mark,

I mentioned that " we do pay " for Medicare with our enormous taxes but then get it back in many ways,is it worth it,depends on your point of view.In Quebec,day care per day is $7 and I should know,my sister has her son in one.If you are paying 1K in Vancouver or BC per month,well,Vancouver is an expensive city.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 17, 2009, 10:21:35 PM »
I think it also depends on what country you live in ,to gain a perpective.For instance,we in Canada have Medicare so when you need to go to the hospital or need medicine,there is no charge or massive discounts.That can be heart surgery or an 8 month stay.Or if you need child care,it is $7 a day.Of course the flip side is that we pay an enormous amount of tax,one of the largest in the world.The US is going through this right now with the Medicare debate.I have some US friends who say they would never pay that amount of tax on income and sales tax but then have to pay the expensive insurance rates.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 16, 2009, 09:22:08 PM »
Mike,

That is a great article,printed it out.In very basic terms,it is simple-what goes in versus what goes out equals.Make sure your in is greater than your out.Easier said than done I know.Though I have never been in debt,outside of calculated business loans,I am surprised when I read or hear of person or persons earning a basic salary but taking multiple vacations,driving expensive cars,pools in the backyard,houses beyond their means or needs,fancy dining,etc.You can blame the credit cards or banks but what about personal responsibility.No one is forcing anyone to use a credit card or buy that plasma tv.Just say no.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 16, 2009, 09:06:48 PM »
And I should add,how is the new Robin Guthrie? I greatly enjoy his music,along with Cocteau Twins but there is an example of the artist doing the exact same thing nearly every time,though he created the sound or template of that sound, so who can blame him.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 16, 2009, 09:03:11 PM »
I am a big listener of DS,since latter day Japan.I agree,Blemish was not a favourite though I got the remix version which I find better.For plenty of info and samples of every track off Manafon,go to his website.I may not like it but I do respect him for going in his own direction,no matter the market conditions.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 26, 2008, 01:13:55 AM »
My question is;who or perhaps why do you listen to dark ambient.I also listened to this for a bit,many years ago,Lustmord,etc.. nothing ever really black like death metal or some of the artists mentioned here,until I discovered what I was looking for,which was more space or deep space or drone,even drift music,such as SOTL,Vir Unis,Rich,Grassow,some Fax/Hypnos,etc. in the early 1990s
The very nature of dark(ness) to me means nightmares,feeling hopeless,sad,etc..so why would someone want to create this or listen to it.Maybe it is an age thing where you progress from genre to genre.In the early 80s,for a brief time I was into Throbbing Gristle,SPK,etc..then went into other types.The Lustmord phase did not last long though I think it is very well done for what it is.For me,it was a gate to the music above.
But then I have never been attracted to horror films either.
Anyway,that is the question,not a judgement on anyone but curious.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Vladislav Delay in Wire
« on: March 14, 2008, 10:55:16 PM »
Interesting 4 page interview in this month's Wire,about Vladislav Delay and his alter egos.
He came from a Jazz background-unknown to me.Also,check out the picture of his studio.I noticed the quality of some of his machines,including Manley,Crane Song and PMC monitors.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: State of the music business
« on: March 14, 2008, 08:57:31 PM »
These are all great points.I am an audiophile,and have been in the sound reinforcement business for some twenty five years,that is what I do,audio,though recently more on the sales side.I can and do get involved with the emotion of the music, but my ear always tunes into the engineering of it as well.I recently read the autobiography of Midge Ure who said that when Ultravox recorded their album Rage in Eden,probably my number record of all time,Conny Plank was the producer and his production was based around engineering,while their next album,Quartet,was produced by George Martin,who was an arranger of songs,which resulted in two very different sounding albums,not just material.
My issue,as I said,is that the CD-Rs I have,not all but many,have become distorted,have glitches during certain quiet passages,and have tracking errors.(skips)This is not made up but fact.These are not 5 years old but recent.Is this due to the mastering,I think not.I have well over 3000 cds that are kept in a secure environemnt and I have never,ever,had a problem with a pressed CD,even twenty years old,unless it was from obvious mis-handling.So the argument that a CD-R sounds excactly like a CD is not true,even if made from the same original.Is the content the same,yes.This is due to the duplicating process.Further,in theory,0s and 1s should be exactly the same but they are not,in the manufacturing,yes,in playback,no.As all audio has to pass through D/A convertors,this is where the errors show up.A company like Apogee have become the standard in the pro industry and studios worldwide for D/A convertors and time clocks,for a reason.I do not sit while listening to Vir Unis and wait with my ears to catch the fault,I sink into the music,but it does make it frustrating to get into a 20 minute track and then have a blast of distortion hit,even if it is only 3 seconds.I recently listened to an Oophoi title,bought about a year ago,on CD-R and it sounded like sludge,then put on a Steve Roach pressed CD,and it sounded great,though that is from two different beasts I guess.I admit fully that this is for the vast minority that care about such things,and that I truly enjoy all the Databloem or Atmo or Hypnos title I got,about 70.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: State of the music business
« on: March 10, 2008, 08:06:21 PM »
Well said responses.I agree,that music in one form or another,will be around forever,from the original musical instrument live to a digital reproduction.Downloads are brilliant and the wave of the future,or the present even,and I am all for it.However,for now,the quality is not there yet in terms of audio production,and that means a great deal,probably the engineer in me.If it means missing  out on great music  but on mediocre mediums,so be it.All the popular labels here,Hypnos,Atmo,Databloem,I have both pressed CDs and CD-Rs,and I would say,to my ears,that all the CD-R products are missing something compared to the pressed CDs,sonically,not to mention that some have become distorted pieces of plastic,not all but many.There is something to be said for mastering studios and manufacturing plants though I understand this is not feasible for most indy labels.I question whether MP3s are better sonically than cassette,and certainly,CDs are no better than LPs,so to me, there has been a downgrading of sound,not an upgrade but in terms of convience,no question,CDs and MP3s are the way to go.Atmo,to my understanding,does not offer any pressed CDs anymore on new artists,just downloads so I no longer have the option of choosing.To each his own though,exactly right in the end.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: State of the music business
« on: March 07, 2008, 09:18:34 PM »
Very interesting.Long time fan of D.M.(live and studio) from 1982 onward and Recoil from 1986 on.Two of the points Alan brings up I have mentioned here a few times,with little luck.That is that music is often listened to while doing other activities,more as background noise,than true listening for the art of music production-ie. persons washing dishes while listening or on cheap hi-fis or on airplanes.Also,that music lovers/audiophiles(like me) prefer the quality of of a true CD over downloads(and in my case,CD-Rs from my many bad experiences)This is why I stopped buying from one of my favorite labels,Atmoworks,when they switched to a download only format as well as CD-R only titles from other labels.Why,I just recently listened to an old Ultravox CD I bought in 1988 and it played perfectly,but a CD-R I bought year ago is all distorted-what is wrong here.To me,it does not matter if it is available in FLAC or Lossless or whatever as you still have to listen to it on an I-Pod through the lousy D-A conversion(and I have an I-Pod too,but only use it to transfer CD to Lossless files and then listen to it through very high quality headphones)

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