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For me,as a  label,FAX-around 100,followed closely by Factory,nearly everything from 1979 to 1987.
Artist-Gary Numan,Ultravox,New Order,David Sylvain,Depeche Mode,Cocteau Twins,Kraftwerk,Cabaret Voltaire.

Now Playing / Re: Long Term Listening - your ambient classics
« on: January 07, 2010, 09:06:28 PM »
Artists that are always in circulation;
Stars of the Lid
Tetsu Inoue
Alio Die
Cocteau Twins
David Sylvain
Vir Unis
My all time fav ambient would be Biosphere-Substrata

Everything and Nothing / Re: good old vinyl... yet another article...
« on: January 07, 2010, 08:44:50 PM »
Mike,see my post above,that is exactly what I did.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 07, 2010, 12:53:05 AM »
Yep,Uhurit,that Rapoon is great,my fav too though I like Dreamcircle as well,actually,out of my 12 Rapoons,I like them all,been on a Rapoon cycle.Just got the new Markus Guentner,Doppelgaenger on Sending Orbs(this label has a great site and I like the micro sites-can hear every track and longer than 30 seconds) amazing, less beat driven than Yagya (beats are muted when they are there) and washes,bells.David Bowie-Heroes.Modern English-After the snow.

Everything and Nothing / Re: good old vinyl... yet another article...
« on: January 07, 2010, 12:39:21 AM »
I collected records when that was the format,mostly 1977-1987(yeah Mike,I got Blancmange)-I agree that ambient,drone,etc.. is better on CD for the simple reason that it is quiet,no side changes,can go up to nearly 80 minutes.Touch UK recently started a cassette limited release label,all have sold out .I did an experiment last year.I recorded from my turntable (Linn Sondek) to an HHB CD recorder using a Mark Levinson pre-amp,the album was Ultravox Rage in Eden.Then took the remastered 2009 version CD and put it into I-Tunes Lossless.Played it back on my I-Pod and the turntable version did sound much warmer (all those terms) than the same CD version to I-tunes.Here in Canada,Blue Rodeo (a fav. of mine)just released their new album on a double gatefold LP,as well as CD.In Montreal,used record stores are everywhere and one of the first,if only,record pressing plant in Canada,just opened here as well,mostly to export.I say the future is in downloads but it is interesting.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Best of 2009!!!1
« on: December 28, 2009, 11:59:41 PM »
For me,2009 was a bit strange.I am such a fan of music, have been for so long (25 years) but this year I lost much interest in it.I also found that I was listening to more of my older collection than getting newer music.I think part of it may be that I feel there is very little innovative stuff out there.After 1 or 2 maybe 3 albums from the same artist,there are mostly repeats so I feel the need to buy the 12 album by artist X is a waste as it is all the same.Now,if you like that type, 75 albums ( or more) by Roach,then great.

Brock Van Wey-White Clouds
Pop Ambient 2009
Biosphere-Wireless Live
Ultravox-Rage in Eden Re-issue (my fav all time LP)
And in rotation
Rapoon-Various 1994-1998
David Sylvain-Various-1982-2009
Joy Division,New Order,Alio Die,Vir Unis,Moev,kraftwerk.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CDR prices too high
« on: November 14, 2009, 02:02:15 PM »
I used an example on Boomkat ( a favourite site) A Flac download is 9 pounds,that is $16 CDN $.I-Tunes as far as I know says it is lossless if you transfer your own cds,if you buy their downloads,it is 256.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CDR prices too high
« on: November 14, 2009, 12:18:36 AM »
I totally agree with Brian and Uhurit.
My poor experiences with CD-Rs has turned me off forever,too bad.
I use electronics by Mark Levinson,Linn,Revel,etc... and you can hear the difference between downloads and CD format,at least with I-Tunes so no interest with that though the ease of I-Tunes is impressive.Flac is much better though but still,a Flac download can cost more than a CD,sometimes 15-16.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus, part two
« on: November 05, 2009, 11:12:44 PM »
Scott,I saw New Order in TO in 85 near the airport for the Low Life tour.A Certain Ratio opened.I read the same review.Quite awful,pretty much what Mike said but on record,they are on of my favorites.Temptation is in my top 5 songs ever.Check out Barneys new band-Bad Lieutenant,not my thing but a few decent tracks.
PS- just came back from one of my installs in a club,20 minutes there and my ears are ringing,just too loud but the kids love it and the DJs just keep pushing the levels up.I got it locked down with compressors and limiters but the client says louder,so what can you do.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus, part two
« on: November 04, 2009, 11:19:39 PM »
Oh,New Order.Amazing band but their live sound was renowned for being bad.Saw them in 82,85,88,2001.
Ear plugs,it is the only way to see live audio but go for the pro custom molds like ER-15s from Westone.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 07, 2009, 06:52:53 PM »
Jeff Greinke-Soundtracks.APK turned me onto this.Really amazing,your mind can imagine the film.

This a great thread.I agree that the packaging has little value if the music is sub par.I do remember the days though when I would buy the artist for the music first but the artwork was not far behind.These were the days of LPs,for me 1978-1985.I remember listening to Kraftwerk-Man Machine,Ultravox -Rage in Eden or New Order-Power,Corruption,Lies or Seti on Instinct and staring at the covers.Art work by Peter Saville or Taylor Deupree is still amazing.I also like the consistency of artwork-packaging on Hypnos or Kranky.And I have never bought music as an investment to re-sell.I was once told always collect art (music,paintings,books,etc..) because you love it first.if later,you can think of selling it,then fine.I would rather give away my music to someone who would appreciate it instead of getting $4.Of course,if I can get $50 for a Fax title,well maybe...

I agree with Mark.
Too much out there.One of the reasons I slowed way down on collecting music (I am not an artist) is that
there is too much of the same,whatever the label or artist.That is why in another thread I said I admired David Sylvain for at least going on a different tangent.To the artist who has put out 6 or 10 Cds that are all similar,change it up.One of the many reasons I-Tunes is popular is because of the single track purchase.Most releases have a few good tracks,the rest is rubbish.I do not buy the singles as I am a whole CD type but if you are going to that,make sure it is interesting.
I do agree that downloads are the future-it is here,and the concept is brilliant.I am just a hold over from the CD era,before that,vinyl.
And yes,CD-Rs are cheaper and it may cost an artist much more money to put out a pressed CD only to sell 50.But chances are that artist will not get my attention.
Again,for me,audio quality is important.I will not buy anymore CD-Rs as much as I may enjoy the music or artist as the technical aspect will fail.So to those who put out CD-Rs ( and there is a place for them) increase the quality control.I have ordered some in the past that would not play or that had a massive sound glitch of noise in the middle of a 10 minute track,not pleasant on headphones I can tell you.
And what about longer samples of each song or a few complete songs.How can I get an idea of a 20 minute song or a 70 minute CD from 3 minutes of samples.I recently listed to Rapoon ( a fav.) on My Space and the 7 tracks there in full was interesting.Or go to the PIL site (who reformed) and they have a player with 20 full songs.Or go to,a full song of every track for download to listen to.(though with a beep every 30 seconds.)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The ambient 'scene'
« on: September 29, 2009, 08:43:47 PM »
 My incredibly quick take (!): though I discovered electronic music in 1980, with Kraftwerk and soon followed by Eno, Jarre, Vangelis, etc., I would say I discovered ambient in 1993 with Fax then quickly followed by Hypnos. This new generation of ambient was exciting to me, as I suppose every new generation of music is exciting to its new fans. One of the key reasons that I drastically slowed down my collecting of ambient music is because of two things: one, lack of innovation in ambient, and two, lack of audio quality in CD-R and downloads. Regarding first point - to me, ambient with the advent, as Mike pointed out, of labels such as Fax, Silent, Warp, Fathom, etc., presented original sounds and ideas. To me, recently there has been a constant repetition of nearly every artist's previous works. Call it recycling. I am not particularly interested in collecting a dozen CD's by the same artist if they all sound the same. I could go on...regarding the second point - I have had a terrible run of paying for and collecting CD-R's from various labels which have all but disintegrated. I will not be continuing this practice. And I can still tell the difference between download, MP-3 and CD quality (not going to get into MP-3 vs flac). I do admit that this mode of distribution is way forward from the way things used to be.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 24, 2009, 10:13:12 PM »
Yes,it does get cold here,sometimes down to -30C in Jan. but overall not bad.BC down to LA though is wonderful.I have been to Vancouver and thought it was great.West Coast VS East Coast.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 21, 2009, 07:56:36 PM »

I am in Montreal.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 18, 2009, 10:38:56 PM »

I mentioned that " we do pay " for Medicare with our enormous taxes but then get it back in many ways,is it worth it,depends on your point of view.In Quebec,day care per day is $7 and I should know,my sister has her son in one.If you are paying 1K in Vancouver or BC per month,well,Vancouver is an expensive city.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 17, 2009, 10:21:35 PM »
I think it also depends on what country you live in ,to gain a perpective.For instance,we in Canada have Medicare so when you need to go to the hospital or need medicine,there is no charge or massive discounts.That can be heart surgery or an 8 month stay.Or if you need child care,it is $7 a day.Of course the flip side is that we pay an enormous amount of tax,one of the largest in the world.The US is going through this right now with the Medicare debate.I have some US friends who say they would never pay that amount of tax on income and sales tax but then have to pay the expensive insurance rates.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Great article - "This is why you are in debt"
« on: September 16, 2009, 09:22:08 PM »

That is a great article,printed it out.In very basic terms,it is simple-what goes in versus what goes out equals.Make sure your in is greater than your out.Easier said than done I know.Though I have never been in debt,outside of calculated business loans,I am surprised when I read or hear of person or persons earning a basic salary but taking multiple vacations,driving expensive cars,pools in the backyard,houses beyond their means or needs,fancy dining,etc.You can blame the credit cards or banks but what about personal responsibility.No one is forcing anyone to use a credit card or buy that plasma tv.Just say no.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 16, 2009, 09:06:48 PM »
And I should add,how is the new Robin Guthrie? I greatly enjoy his music,along with Cocteau Twins but there is an example of the artist doing the exact same thing nearly every time,though he created the sound or template of that sound, so who can blame him.

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