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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: August 10, 2008, 05:05:43 PM »
For me Dark Ambient doesn't have to come off as scary. To me it makes you think/mind meander to the music and see what it provokes in your head. To see if you get/understand where they are coming from on the songs. I enjoy it, some more than others. I have wanted to go the Raison d'Etre/New Risen Throne route for a long time (and other similar artists) but I just work with what I have for samples and go with the flow when something starts to jell and take form. I've stopped/restarted so many times on some tracks because I wasn't happy with where it was at the time, etc...

I guess it's conveying a message/feeling/thought that goes into this stuff moreover than anything else. I don't look for the creepiness in general, I look at a) who the artist is, b) what I have heard/have of theirs already and maybe c) what I find online for reviews for some of the stuff. Some is hit and miss, I'll agree, even on my stuff!

But what I am finding hard is to find that sound to fit what I have in mind for a track to get the vibe going and build upon that till I am done with the track. Sometimes it's in one sitting, other times I come back to it and scrap it or continue on (usually

But stuff like Inade, Troum, Desiderii Marghinis, Sephiroth, etc... moves me. Not in a morbid way (maybe!)...I was playing in a doom metal band, I still love the stuff, I find it very beautiful/moving in a lot with regards to the music foremost, lyrics secondary (at least to me).

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: August 10, 2008, 04:59:20 PM »
For the record, I also love ghost stories and scary music, but I HATE roller coasters!

Come on, take the PLUNGE on the roller coaster!  ;)

Never again!

Last time I was on a coaster was at Cedar Point, many years ago. There was a dark tunnel you go through, while a camera snaps rapid-fire photos of the people in the cars, which are then displayed at the entrance of the ride. My face in the photo was so twisted with horror and agony, that people in the crowd were actually pointing it out and laughing!

I'm a real roller coaster wimp! :-[

Pansy!   ;D  j/k

grabbing it from rapidshare. Thanks for making it available for free!

You're welcome, enjoy!

Hmm, maybe this thread would be better in the listening booth subforum.

Check with the guy over at to get it on his netlabel as that's where I released Dreamscapes. He's got a lot of free stuff he put out there from a bunch of different folks/styles of ambient.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkened Soul
« on: August 03, 2008, 04:56:07 PM »
All the tracks are listenable (one may be downloadable) from my site. So now it can be heard  in its entirety online there. I'll be adding them to my page probably this week as well to get broader coverage.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: BeatMaker for the iPhone
« on: July 31, 2008, 09:41:31 AM »
Here's another reason about overdoing things on phones:

Not trying to rain on anyones parade. It's just that some folks obviously can't and shouldn't multitask!  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: BeatMaker for the iPhone
« on: July 30, 2008, 07:16:07 PM »
I was about to say the same thing, Jonathan.  The iPhone has more in common with a laptop computer, than with a cell phone.

It won't be too far in the future that people have a small device that they carry around with them that acts as a voice phone, video chat, mp3 player, personal organizer, web browser and ecommerce device all in one.  The idea that "a phone is just a phone" is a backward-looking view, and the iPhone is  a forward-looking device.


Well call me old fashioned. I can text with my current VM phone (virgin mobile, pay as I go) as I don't need/want anything like an iPhone. I just don't see the need. When the cameras started coming out there were the pervert up-skirt shots, porno images being shared by high-schoolers, etc... that to me went beyond at that point with regards to what a phone should do (yes, it was those using it, but it was because it was there in it). I don't need/want all that in a phone, it's to converse with someone. Making music is with a computer/instruments/singing/banging items/etc... yes I know it's the *wave* of the future but I'll pass for now. Yes it's easier than dragging laptop out of the bag but so far it's limited (and yeah as time goes on more will be able to be done...).  My buddy was gonna buy one but he had ZERO signal at his house, maybe a bar out by his much for great coverage. Verizon was better! lol

So, use it as you see fit I suppose, I just won't be purchasing one for some time. Land-line mainly, rarely use my cell. I may just run through the minutes and dump it since I am not touring/road tripping in a band. OnStar in the car!

i have been doing some ebay shopping this weekend and have some cool stuff coming my way:
1. a "traditional brass 7" chinese gong"
2. a blue lagoon didgeridoo
3. a fire sketch beeswax-bamboo didg
4. an 11x7 djembe
5. a monkey talking drum
6. a sioux native American flute

i am waiting on bids on a quartz crystal bowl, a frame drum and another talking drum. i am psyched for this stuff to get here!

(does anyone have any recommendations on the 'learn to play the didg' cd's or dvd'd?)

Where you getting all the spare cash for this stuff? I could use some cash! ;-)  j/k. Interesting to see what your getting. I'm still working on playing guitar. I do need to sit down and PRACTICE more often than I really do.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: BeatMaker for the iPhone
« on: July 27, 2008, 03:36:13 PM »
Oh My GOD.....what is going on with the industry? A phone is a PHONE! HELLO! I can't believe some of the stuff that is being put out for these things.....granted it's probably a first...but still. Come on, it's a phone, you know, to make calls, check voice mail, maybe snap a picture or me this is getting a bit much. I use a phone to call someone, not to work on drum patterns/music. That's what my laptop or desktop is for. Don't we have enough distractions on the phone anyways?

Now don't think I'm trying to berate you or any such thing. I just find it ridiculous with what is being put into phones. It's to talk to someone, use in emergency. Now we'll see some major accident where someone is hurt (or worse) because they just had an epiphany on their drum track that they just HAD to get down before they lost their train of thought...oops, tractor trailer ahead....crash, bang, POOF....

Seriously they are putting too much stuff into a PHONE....

Ok, off my soap-box rant/joke/rave ;-)


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 27, 2008, 03:31:20 PM »
For the record, I also love ghost stories and scary music, but I HATE roller coasters!

Come on, take the PLUNGE on the roller coaster!  ;)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 26, 2008, 03:32:09 PM »
What most people call "dark ambient" now, didn't really exist when I got into ambient music.  When people talked about "dark ambient" 10 years ago or so, they meant ambient music that was darker, deeper, and slower... stuff like Lustmord, Thomas Koner, or Trances/Drones.  More like what I'd now refer to as "night ambient," not meant to be spooky, just sedate and subdued.  By this definition, stuff like Oophoi or Vidna Obmana or even my own work might be considered "dark ambient."

Then a bunch of black metal crossover artists sort of took the words "dark ambient" and it became sort of industrial-ish, abrasive ambient with overtly "spooky" or aggro elements.

I don't know if I'd say it didn't exist 10 yrs or so ago. Think about early(ier) Tangerine Dream stuff, like Green Desert for one. Fabulous album, but fairly dark from what I remember of it. A fair piece of their earlier stuff could be considered dark ambient, even though a lot was/is sequenced.

I played in a doom metal band, I've been into extreme metal now for 18 yrs or so. Prior to that was Trower (still!), Rush, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and the list can go on and on. I still listen to that stuff when I'm in the mood (nostalgia some times, especially for Rush/Trower as they are my two favorite guitarists).  Some of the black metal crossover artists as you pointed our are so-so, some good, some not so.  I like the dark ambient for the mood it tends to bring across, I just let my mind wander/relax listening to it. Same goes for Doom metal (prefer extreme to stoner - I don't even know why it's lumped in with Doom as it has nothing to do with it). Doom doesn't depress me at all, I love the stuff. Same for dark ambient, moving, emotive, scary, pensive, thought provoking. At least that's what I get out of listening to it. Same with most other forms of music.

In a bad mood? Crank up Meshuggah - Rational Gaze (or pissed off at neighbor ;-) ) as that's a killer song and my guitar instructor commented at how they put a lot of effort into that song with regards to structure and vocal delivery. To me, that says a lot coming from him as he's old school/classic rock type....haha, I pummel him with brutal stuff now and then ;-)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkened Soul
« on: July 26, 2008, 03:20:46 PM »
Darkened Soul - Bathys is now available off my website. I finally got off my duff and get an image uploaded. I replaced Dreamscapes with it since I released it for free last year.

grabbing it from rapidshare. Thanks for making it available for free!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 24, 2008, 10:27:12 AM »
Hmm, my favorite genre ;-)

Darkened Soul (shameless plug), Nether, Profound as a Thousand Nights (formerly from Nothingness Records), The Victim Shudders, Inade, Troum, Yen Pox (as previously stated), Angel of Decay (jonathan's newer project, he did Hollow Earth - Dog Days of the Holocaust bug AoD is very dark), New Risen Throne I like, very CMI-ish as usual.  But I love a lot of the stuff from CMI (raison d'etre, etc...). And a lot from Cyclic Law's label are quite good as previously mentioned. I really liked the Nord Ambient Alliance (I think that was the title) which inroduced me to those artists on it. I think there may also be another release from Frederic's first ambient project before Visions which I very much look forward to if it ever sees the light of day. I should email him about that as it's been awhile since we conversed. I met him last year at a show in western mass. Nice guy!

Everything and Nothing / Re: wanted
« on: July 13, 2008, 04:48:42 AM »
Well, does anyone remember Son of the Beach? Porcelain Bidet in particular ;-)  aka Amy SHE is georgous. But to get back to the movie...doesn't really interest me. May rent it when it hits the dvd scene.

Everything and Nothing / Re: wanted
« on: July 10, 2008, 05:59:22 PM »
Wow, talking about killing a thread! Hahaha, but seriously I believe she went and got herself done. Not that it's that bad, but seeing her in earlier films and later makes you go hmmmm...sort of the same for Selma Hyak (now she's georgous IMHO).

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Tools for rhythm-making
« on: July 10, 2008, 04:52:28 AM »
Impulse from Ableton Live, Sampler to select a specific section of a loop for something percussive (also Live instrument), Battery 2 or 3 or my Triton Extreme for some snare stuff. That's pretty much what I've been using along with percussion samples.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambiloop
« on: July 10, 2008, 04:49:00 AM »
There is an overdub button on the toolbar/transport bar in Ableton Live. I've never mucked with it but it is there. Check the manual to see if it goes into any detail on its use.


Everything and Nothing / Re: wanted
« on: July 03, 2008, 03:41:29 PM »
Check her in Hackers and then *now* and notice she appears to have gotten augmented on the chest area. At least that's my take as she wasn't like *that* back then. She does have some lips  ;D and a helluva figure but doesn't do a lot for me. Movie premise doesn't interest  me either. I do like Morgan Freeman as he's played some interesting parts. I want to see the Bucket List!  But I'd take Jessica Alba or Biel over Jolie personally  ::)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Mired In Twilight
« on: June 28, 2008, 06:34:23 PM »

MIT is my other project I got off the ground last year with a couple tracks over at but it sort of stagnated for awhile....(like months!). BUT! The good news is that it's got new life finally as we started recording some stuff and I have a rough mix/arrangement my counterpart put together from our recording session a week or so ago. It's about 6+ mins long and I am trying to see if we need to add any more instrumentation to it/layers I may put it up off the site linked possibly to get some feedback if anyone cares to check it out. We recorded drums/strings from his Triton Studio and used a couple tympani from Ugly Remnants loop set which sounds pretty good/deep. But it's a rouggh mix/arrangement and needs a little massaging/effects if we leave it as is. But there are two tracks we did last year (I did the arrangement for Dirge for Grace) and we both worked on the arrangement for A Call To War. This new track I'm feeling would be good for an ending track on a full length...just the vibe I'm getting from the arrangement.

Anyways, check it out if you like. It's more martial than dark ambient but I'm planning on adding that in there somehow....

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