In Ableton Live when I am working on finalizing things I try to stay below 0db as I don't want clipping in the track during playback. I have found that if it is much lower it seems to quiet overall. I will try and play with that when I come up with a new track. Actually I render it in Live then load it into Sound Forge 7.0x and convert the wave to mp3 format, usually @ 128kbps for upload compatibility with the sites I currently use. I should lower output in Live and see how it sounds at same volume level to see if it is *that* much lower overall after running through SF. I usually don't boost/modify it in SF, just use to render to mp3 since Live doesn't do that (still....).