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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: Yesterday at 08:58:04 AM »
In case you weren't aware, today is NATIONAL VIDNA OBMANA DAY.  In celebration at work today:  Crossing the trail, twilight of perception, subterranean collective, surreal sanctuary, contemporary nocturne.  That's a lot of fujaras!

OBMANA for president!!

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Klaus Schulze, Edgar Froese...

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Case in point:  Robert Fripp, Harold Budd, Jon Hassell...

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He played beautifully on David Sylvian's masterpiece Gone to Earth.

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I think 750 copies is a lot for this, especially at this inflated cost.  I agree, it is great stuff but I just can't justify the cost.  Mark dwane released a limited edition of 1,000 I think back in late 90s, at $25 a copy.  Took a long time for those to sell out.  In fact it may still be available.  I think an artist should set the price at whatever they see fit, but you are going to run into fans who just won't pay that much.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 23, 2014, 03:04:25 PM »
I agree!  Shades of Orion isn't too shabby either.

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Okay okay I meant new CD, not digital!   ;)

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How about as a last installment, "The Devolvement of the Human Race and it's Destruction by Greed and Technology"?

Now THAT is something I would definitely have to hear.  ;D

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Exactly.  I got that information from the Projekt website.  Also, the CD is not listed for sale yet on Steve's website.

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The release date for Roach/Reyes is October 28.

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Thom Brennan.  Seems to have disappeared from the earth (along with Tetsu Inoue). No new album for five or so years.

Andrey Faryus (Faria Records).  I assume the label folded, but never heard anything for years.

Patrick O Hearn.  Seems ages ago there was new music.

Steve Roach.  No new album in about three months.  I'm starting to worry.   ;)

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I really liked their piece on the recent Projekt compilation, so just went to Tim Story website to see if the album was available yet.  Yes, limited edition 750 copies, signed numbered.  Clicked the add to cart button and was shocked to see this CD costs $35!!!  I'm sorry, I'd pay at most $25 for something like this (even that is a little much). 

What justifies asking $35 for one 50 minute CD?  Lazy Arc is the name of the album.  If you wanna blow your whole paycheck on it, be my guest!   ;D

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That bothers me as well on Bandcamp where it's not specified if it's a CD or Cdr.  Although maybe bandcamp's definition isn't particular and the two are lumped together.  Seems like the artist/seller on bandcamp could specify this for its buyers.

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Sam replied back and he says Terrace of Memories only sold 15 copies per year.  Therefore to keep it in print they ranoff 100 only cdrs.  They needed 300 for a pressed CD run.  This was done four years ago.  He also said Discmakers, who manufacture their CD's, has better quality cdrs than most.  He offered to refund my money if the disc ever goes bad, which was nice.  So I'm guessing that Wollo release was so limited they put it on a cdr(?)

I still think a large(r) label like Projekt should never put anything on a cdr though, no matter how good the quality or if they're "pro."


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Perfect description.  I think some of the black ones are pressed, or the silver may have been sprayed black.  The reissue of Kiss Destroyer was like this. 

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I received a response from Sam Rosenthal.  He stated "to keep the album in print" they made 100 cdrs.  He stated they "haven't had any complaints about playability.". See, he knows these can have play issues.  So why release them at all.  I feel it's unethical (maybe too strong a word) to do this without a buyer beware heads up.  You buy a CD on projekt and you assume you're getting a CD.  Period!  I told him I wasn't happy about it and requested he send me a spare CD version disc if he has one.

Can you imagine Steve Roach putting his name on a CDR?  It just would never happen.  Case closed.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.  I'll post the follow-up soon...

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I just received Terrace of Memories (Vidna Obmana/Rosenthal) today, bought on eBay, which was "New and sealed.". The disc is a CDR! (albeit a pro type disc with on-disc printing).  Anyone know if the label ever released cdr before?  Is this a bootleg??  I've emailed Sam R., waiting for a reply...

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Most anticipated Projekt CD this year:  Steve Roach & Jorge Reyes--Ancestor Circle.  Woo hoo!!!!!

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:15:18 PM »
Doot Doot!

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 12, 2014, 01:57:52 PM »
Perpetual!  Great title for a long-form ambient work.  ;)

Just picked up last night:

Harold Budd- Jane 12-21. Now I'm to the point where I don't always buy Harold's stuff right away as he seems very hit and miss in the quality department.  This follow-up to "Jane 1-11" appeared in my local record store and I actually didn't buy it last time, but last night I took the plunge.   Really glad I did, this is superior to the first installment (which I liked) and dare I say, some of his best (solo) work in years.  He touches on many different styles on this record, from the icy reverbed/echoed piano, to acoustic piano, to drony/abstract synths, etc.  This album reminds me why I was so obsessed with his music upon first discovering it in the 80's.  One comment about the packaging and the Darla Records label putting his stuff out.  It seems Darla likes to package/release music without the consumer in mind.  Darla released Jane 1-11 by itself, then reissued it in another version with a DVD, then released Jane 12-21 by itself.  The Jane project could have easily been issued as a two-disc set.  Even edited, as both discs are relatively short on playing time.  Darla also released Before the Night Falls/After the Day Breaks as two separate discs some years ago, and each disc was so short that with minimal editing it could have been one disc.  This is the kind of stuff the major labels will do to "increase revenue."  I'm sure they could argue it's all for artistic reasons, and that's fine, but it just seems excessive to have to shell out close to $30 for a domestic release that is basically one CD worth of music.  Also, the packaging for Jane 12-21 is extremely sparse--just a thin slipcase (not even a digipak) with the exact same cover graphics.  I don't know, it just feels like you're having to pay $14 for a "bonus disc" or something that should have been included on the first release.  Now that my grumbling is overů..most important thing THIS IS A GREAT DISC.  HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!  :)   

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