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Great album.  An "instant classic" in the Hypnos catalog, and probably the best thing I've heard this year.

Psychomanteum-"Oneironaut" CD (Cyclic Law)
El Hadra-"Ornaments" CD (Thar)
Mathias Grassow-"3rd Dimension" CDR (Musical Philosophy)
Redshift-"Colder" CD (Distant Sun)
A Produce/Loren Nerell-"Intangible" CD (Hypnos)
Steve Roach-"Live at Soundquest Fest" CD (Timeroom Editions)
Mick Chillage-"FAXology" CD (Fax)
Clive Wright-"Deluge" CDR (Desert Sky Music)
Robin Guthrie/Harold Budd-"Bordeaux" CD (Darla)
Aglaia-"Nights in Nubiland" CD (Hic Sunt Leones)
Lorenzo Montana-"Serpe" CD (Fax)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CELER I wanna see some opinions!
« on: December 08, 2010, 08:28:26 PM »
"Brittle" is the absolute weakest Celer release I've heard, and the sound quality is downright awful.  I'd investigate "In Escaping Lakes" (SlowFlow Rec, Japan) for an example of their best music.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Modulator-ESP
« on: December 07, 2010, 01:29:35 AM »
I too love Mod ESP's stuff from what I've heard on Awakenings.  Any recommendations/faves of his catalog?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Peter Challoner
« on: December 07, 2010, 01:27:18 AM »
Darren, I see the Ambient Archive 2CD has tracks from those trilogy CD's (suspended animation, ambient motion, etc.) Are the remixes radically different from the originals? Also the second CD on the Archive has a long 36 min. piece I don't see on any of the single albums.  Trying to plot my next Challoner purchase (I only have two so far).

OK, I've decided to order the box set and use the records as frisbees!! 


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 07, 2010, 01:04:18 AM »
That Scott Cortez disc on Line has been hard to get into.  Talk about MINIMAL.  If you're expecting a Cocteau Twins-like wash of flanged reverb drenched chords you're in for a surprise.  Even on headphones it's hard to hear the "music."  A disappointment.


You're still not getting it.  You feel you're "sticking up" for VO? It's just weird, you act like he's being bullied.  If I came on here and started making personal remarks about Dirk that would be another matter.  Also, I don't have a problem with you "sticking up" for whoever it is: but I DO have a problem with the way you did it.  Your perceived "dig" of VO was actually me playing devil's advocate with my comment about the fact Steve and Robert aren't releasing vinyl.  My point was that not everyone agrees vinyl is the best format for RELEASING music (sound quality was not the issue).   Don't personalize it.  And it really had nothing to do with you anyways. 

Actually what I wrote that was directed to you was the extreme edited version because it IS a public forum.   

As for all this stuff about being "restrained," you've got to be kidding!  Gee, you're right, I really deserved a total cussing out because I made an unfavorable comment about vinyl.  I'd hate to be the guy who cuts you off on the freeway.  And the "some things should not be said on a public forum" bit.  Who appointed you moral majority of the Hypnos forum?

Finally, I'm not sure what the intent of digging up my former screen name is (which I haven't used for years), but sounds like maybe you're holding a grudge with this irrational war you're waging here.   Chill out, dude!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Recent music purchases
« on: December 07, 2010, 12:09:56 AM »
Happy 50th Darren. You're a youngster, I thought you were an older spacerocker!

Silly (maybe) question:

When do you have time to LISTEN to all this stuff???  Even with a desk job that allows me lots of listening time, I still got piles upon piles of newish stuff (that is sitting on piles of older stuff) not getting enough attention.  How many hrs per day do you estimate are devoted to the actual listening?  I'm still trying to think of ways to get in more "play" time. Possible ideas: install speakers in shower walls; sleep with one eye/both ears open, etc.etc. 

Anyways, next trip to SF let's hang out and have a contest who can fill up their basket at Amoeba with the most stuff.  It may be a close race.

Dreamin4ever--I'm with you about Rush.  This has come up recently in light of the "Lighted Stage" DVD.  I forget if it was mentioned in the documentary but I guess it has something to do with Rush being such a prog band to this day and that they're still something more of a (HUGE) cult band as opposed to mainstream rock.  I myself don't get it.  How can you get more rockin' than "Tom Sawyer" and "Spirit of Radio"?  Neil Peart and Geddy Lee are gods of drums and bass, and Alex LIfeson no slouch either!   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Recent music purchases
« on: December 06, 2010, 08:58:31 PM »
Just ordered/en route:

Create-We Live By the Machines (Groove)
Alio Die/Grassow-Praha Meditations (HSL)
Alio Die/Zeit-new one on HSL

To Dirk:

Not sure why you got so defensive after my first post.  All I said was it would be nice to have some of the more obscure compilation tracks, and some unreleased live recordings, on CD in the future.  Then you get really defensive when I bring up Roach, Rich and Alio Die (actually he's had some material released on vinyl over the years).  Simply making the point that vinyl isn't the most "popular" medium in which to release music these days.  You are eliminating I'd guess 75% (low estimate) of the people who'd be interested in such a box set simply because they don't collect records anymore in this digital age and don't have the equipment to play them on.  Also the fact that most of this material on the box was already released on CD will cut down on interest.  But for those who are "into" vinyl I'm sure it will be worthwhile.  I hope artist, record company, and buyers will all be happy with it (seriously). PS: Please stop saying "thanks" after every post, if you are mocking me it is just stupid as it wasn't intended to be some kind of sarcastic comment, OK??? "Thanks."

To Forrest:

How do you figure I was being "presumptuous" by "taking on" (???) Dirk's "choice of medium to release his own music"? I wasn't "taking on" anything, now was I? I simply said I DON'T OWN A RECORD PLAYER AND WON'T BE BUYING IT.  I hardly said "Don't buy this album" and I don't remember CRITICIZING anyone for releasing it or buying it.  This is a forum for comments, opinions (varying), and open discussion, is it not?   You know, I generally enjoy your comments but sometimes the subtle attacks are just plain weird and out of left field, and when you start being self-appointed VidnaObmana protector of non-existent attacks it just gets more annoying and bizarre. 

Good day sirs. 

I don't know about music being "so much more" on vinyl than CD.  If that were the case, where are all the Steve Roach, Robert Rich, and Alio Die records?   8)

Everything and Nothing / Re: Jonn Serrie = FOX News reporter?
« on: December 05, 2010, 02:46:26 PM »
I'm relieved it's not THE Jonn Serrie.  It would be a blow for all electronic/ambient/new age musicians if he had to take a "real" job because the superstardom (money, limos, chicks, drugs n' booze) just did not come.  ;)

Everything and Nothing / Re: "Big" NASA announcement?
« on: December 05, 2010, 02:42:02 PM »
All of these mysteries can be explained away with two words: SWAMP GAS.  ;D

Sounds great, except I don't own a rekkird player anymore.  Any chance the material on LP 7 & 8 would be released on CD? Or maybe it was released previously on compilations?  Would be nice to have some unreleased VO live tracks or compilation tracks show up on CD at some point. Thanks.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Recent music purchases
« on: December 05, 2010, 03:56:30 AM »
Well, I certainly wouldn't say KJ's music lacks power and authority.  They like to play loud (and I like to listen to them loud)--doesn't bother me one bit.  So the reasoning that only bands with little talent play loud falls on "deaf" ears here.  I will admit the worst bands I ever saw live were opening acts with absolutely no talent for writing a song, singing, or playing an instrument, which was even worse when they played it loud.  Had it been played quietly it still would've been awful.

Everything and Nothing / Re: "Big" NASA announcement?
« on: December 05, 2010, 03:45:33 AM »
Because the face photo was never "released" in any official capacity.  It was among hundreds of photos and NASA at that point didn't know what they had or if there was anything to it, until Richard Hoagland started studying it (he had access as he was a space science advisor for the media), and other photos of Cydonia region.  If there was nothing to these photos, and it was something akin to the face of Virgin Mary on a taco, I seriously doubt Hoagland and the scientists who worked with him on "The Monuments of Mars," who found geometric patterns relating to the "face" structure and other nearby structures (pyramids), would have bothered.  Hoagland was discredited and labeled a "crackpot" in an extesive debunking campaign after this book.  The biggest "hoax" was the photo NASA released after the last recent photos of the region were taken.  They could have taken a photo of anything that looked blurry and released it to the public and "most" people would buy it because it was released as "official" by NASA.  "See, it's just a blurry mass.  Case closed."  I didn't buy it.

Everything and Nothing / Re: "Big" NASA announcement?
« on: December 04, 2010, 03:54:24 PM »
I knew you'd bring up the Mars face and say it looks blurry, Mike.  So why did NASA spend so much time and energy "debunking" it if nothing was there? 

Same thing with the US military "debunking" Roswell.  First they said it was a downed UFO, then a weather balloon, then years later did an extensive "study" and came up with yet another nonsensical explanation. 

People who are pathological liars (like the US government and its various agencies) often don't make sense in their attempts to cover up the truth. 

Im not saying with 100% certainty UFO's crashed at Roswell or an alien monument exists on Mars.  But based on the evidence I've seen, the "official" explanations seem very flawed in their reasoning. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Recent music purchases
« on: December 04, 2010, 12:09:56 AM »
They play here in San Francisco on Dec. 11.  So much good video on YouTube, think I'm gonna pass.  My eardrums will be much healthier, too. 

Bought tonight: BLACK DUB (new Daniel Lanois project).  This is an incredible album, all Lanois fans need this!  Great songs, mindblowing musicianship and production as usual for a Lanois record. 

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