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Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Alien prequel
« on: May 07, 2010, 01:02:23 AM »
I don't think we have to worry about a CGI fest w/Ridley, he's critical of it being overused.  I'm hoping the prequels will be shot in the spirit of the original, w/models and other more "natural" techniques.  As for a Blade Runner revisit, of course it would be nice; just hope if one is made down the line it isn't some awful "remake" like Hollywood is so entrenched in right now. 

Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Hypnos 2010 outlook
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:13:05 AM »
Is the Nebulae "Path of White Clouds" release still happening??

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Alien prequel
« on: May 06, 2010, 06:10:30 AM »
As has been pointed out before, I think the wonder of the original was the mystery and unanswered questions.  It's what made 2001 so special as well.  I think what made all the Alien sequels so uninteresting was there was no real innovative story behind them.  Ridley Scott stated this is why he hasn't done sci-fi since Blade Runner, as a good story is very important to him.  I think a story about the origin of the alien could be very interesting, done right.  I think it's generally accepted by sci-fi fans this was an "alien race," but what about the possibility they were a genetically engineered biomechanoid weapon, a "supersoldier," by some other race of true "aliens"?  Scott has already suggested this by saying the derelict spaceship from the first film was carrying a cargo of the eggs as a weapon. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Tetsu Inoue
« on: May 06, 2010, 05:54:28 AM »
Organic Cloud was reissued around 2004/2005 on Fax's Ambient World sublabel, but is now sold out.  AW releases are supposed to have no limitation, but some of them sold out and haven't been reprinted yet. Namlook may get around to it. 

Just reissued on AW is 62 Eulengasse from 1995, a classic and essential Inoue title, collaboration with Namlook.  Avail. at

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach - Sigh of Ages
« on: May 06, 2010, 05:46:14 AM »
Why would this be "very different" than his other albums??? Unless he's doing ambient ukelele, I tend to doubt it. ;-)

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Alien prequel
« on: May 04, 2010, 07:54:53 PM »
Saw a "preview" of the first Alien prequel (there will be two films) for 20th Century Fox.  No footage except scenes from the original, probably because shooting hasn't started.  Guess they've already decided on the title: "Alien Origin." Guess they HAD to use the word "Alien" in the title for marketing purposes. Yuk. Simply "Origin" would have been better IMO, or another title a bit more mysterious and less obvious.   

Why are you so insistent on arguing Alien is not Sci-Fi, when I have presented irrefutable evidence it is considered so by the majority of the filmmaking community?  If this were a debate, you'd lose, & we've already won many posts ago.  I can see the next post now: the moon landing was a hoax, the holocaust never happened, etc. etc. Some people have to argue about everything... You're making too big a deal about this, which was not even the point of this thread, it was originally about comparing Alien and Aliens, not endlessly debating whether it was Sci-Fi or Horror.  I'm not reading any more posts on this topic, so if you want to debate it do it by yourself, and nobody will listen or care... 8)

American Film Institute in 2008 named Alien "Seventh Best Film in the Science Fiction Genre"

Alien received a Saturn Award soon after its release for "Best Science Fiction Film."

OK fine, you win. Alien wasn't Sci-Fi, and Titanic was a romantic comedy.  :P

Wish I could attend this one!  A living legend in EM. I want YouTube videos!!

Don't see how "Moon" is any more sci-fi than Alien or Aliens.  The store I buy most of my DVD's from stocks them under "Sci-Fi." By your own definition of Sci-Fi (the first sentence), Alien IS Sci-Fi.  Fantasy based on the possibility of facts or discovery = future mining in space was big part of the plot of Alien, as it was in Moon; the evil corporations exploiting natural resources and the human race (FACT, it's happening now and getting worse); the possibility of discovering alien life forms in space; androids/artificial intelligence (classic Sci-Fi theme); I could go on and on and on....

Yeah, last time I checked there were no mining space ships stumbling into aliens with acid for blood in real life, so Alien is definitely Sci-fi!  ;D

Hey Judd, I just checked out that link. Wow!! Amazing news!!! Glad to hear Ridley is doing sci-fi again.  And I've a feeling this Alien "prequel" will be spooky and cerebral instead of the "monster schlock" that the series degenerated into.  I think he understands that, and I hope he puts all those sequels to shame.  Perhaps after the success of "Avatar" he's feeling up to the challenge to prove who the reigning champ of futuristic space films is. 

Now Playing / Re: Chopin 200 years
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:03:09 PM »
Arguably the greatest classical composer.  Played a lot of his pieces when I studied piano as a kid.  My late father's favorite piece of music was one of the nocturnes.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:00:13 PM »
The Durutti Column-Four Factory Records
Duran Duran-Rio 2CD ltd. edition
Bauhaus-In the flat Field Omnibus Edition
Joy Division-Closer
U2-Unforgettable Fire Ltd.edition (w/DVD, nice footage of Eno)

Eloquently put, Wayne.  I wouldn't exactly say Aliens sucked, but compared to the original there was no comparison--yes, masterpiece is the word.  Interesting to note, I was watching the original with Ridley Scott's commentary and he mentioned wanting the opening titles to resemble hieroglyphics, suggesting the alien race was very complex and intelligent, even though so "animal-like."  I think had the sequels gone in this direction, the results could have been much more interesting than the movies that were actually made.  I liked what David Fincher did with the art direction on the third one, but the story was getting old.  The fourth and fifth, and Alien vs. Predator, just turned the whole thing into a sorry joke.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach - Sigh of Ages
« on: April 24, 2010, 09:16:06 PM »
Oh God, another statue! (see other Roach thread)  Hope it's good...

Did her decision to join the expedition have anything to do with her daughter?? I thought she decided to join the expedition because she kept having nightmares and she wanted to eradicate the alien species.  The extra footage in Aliens about Ripley's daughter was more about explaining her emotional connection to the little girl "Newt" as Ripley's own daughter would have been 11 years old had she returned to Earth in the first movie instead of drifting in space for 57 years in hypersleep.

I recently bought the DVD's of Alien and Aliens.  I think the first one is a masterpiece from a directorial standpoint, and it's in my top five all-time movies.  The sense of claustrophobia, nightmare, and dread is thick.  The camera shots, imagery, and overall atmosphere is mesmerizing. The fact it was made in 1978 still amazes me.  Aliens (1986) was excellent in its own right--great special effects, good acting & script (although Sigourney Weaver tends to overact in spots).  But it is IMO such a different movie--much more an "action" film than a psychological horror film.  James Cameron is a great director and he has his own style, but the "Hollywood" factor is all over Aliens whereas the original played almost like an independent film.  When I talk to people about the two I often hear the opinion that "Aliens" was better (and I cringe and try to explain gently that they are gravely mistaken!).  Any opinions on this?

Yes, Origins and Artifacts were similar as both were photographs by William Lesch, however Artifacts cover was so abstract there weren't any recognizable "objects".  I still think TS and DT are too similar though.  And the two albums aren't really a series as Metcalf and the other artist on Dream Tracker weren't on TS.  Yeah, Pier 1 Imports! I think I saw these there!

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