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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New CD
« on: October 07, 2009, 11:58:40 AM »
My postman hasn't delivered yet, hopefully soon.  Will post comments soon.  8)

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Nice! Is this a CD or CD-R release?  8)

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First and foremost, I'd like to see some new artists who are original and not trying to sound like someone else.  I'd also like to see the "innovators" continue to innovate, not just rehash 10-year-old ideas. 

As it is easier for ambient artists to release their music these days, there is simply too much of it (and much of it substandard or too similar to previous releases).  I agree 100% with Mike's comment about hitting the record button and giving it a fancy title!  Seems to me back in the early/mid'90's an artist would release one or two discs per year, and they were something special.  Now we get five or six from the same artist with uninspired music and fancy titles that sound good but don't deliver.  You know, the "Destination to the Upper Realms of the Stratosphere", and you're like "WOW, that sounds COOL!". Then it arrives and it's a boring 70 minute synth drone. 

I would also like to see ambient/electronic labels not go too "hi-tech crazy" by releasing download-only albums, or limiting the number of copies of their CD runs because they figure people can download it from iTunes instead.  The worst offender of this is Fax.  Most of their releases are now limited to 500 (used to be 2,000 or 1,000), but you have to pay close to $30 for a DTS surround disc included in the package.  I don't want to download, but I also don't want to pay twice as much for something I'll never use. 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach News
« on: October 04, 2009, 02:12:36 PM »
I only picked up "Afterlight" and "Destination Beyond," and even then the money spent could've been better served elsewhere.  DB is good, nicely done, but too similar to both Proof Positive and Arc of Passion.  Afterlight left me completely cold, and sounds like a leftover from Dynamic Stillness.  This sort of atonal, synths-out-of-tune idea has just run out of steam I'm afraid.  Nice cover design, though.  Looking forward to some new ideas from SR.   

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A couple more excellent Groove releases picked up recently via ye olde Hypnos store:

Create-Lost on an Island of Adventure: this is a great disc full of "soft" Berlin-school atmospherics, with a moody, melancholy air.

Paul Ellis-The Last Hiding Place of Beauty: Another fantastic Ellis release, interesting mix of acoustic and electronic sounds.  Great melodic EM!

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 30, 2009, 11:47:21 PM »
The Cult-Love (Omnibus edition) 4-disc box of one of the greatest rock albums of all time.  A classic gets the full treatment--remastered album (sounds awesome), B-sides, demos, and live show from 1985.  Sweet!  Too bad they sucked eggs after "Love" and went all cheesy rock metal.

Spyra-January in June
Boddy/Reuter-Dervish
Robin Guthrie-Carousel

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: upcoming raison d'Ítre album
« on: September 26, 2009, 12:37:05 AM »
Yes, I've noticed a much more industrial sound to RD these last several years, and I miss the earlier style as well.  I ordered the Bjargo disc from Projekt, sounds very Arcana-like, which is a good thing in my book.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New CD
« on: September 26, 2009, 12:31:15 AM »
I haven't even heard the samples but am buying without hesitation.  First, that is a COOL-ASS name...Phobos, the mysterious oblong-shaped moon of Mars some Ufologists believe to be an artificial satellite base for aliens.  Remember the Mars probe that mysteriously lost contact just before a photo was taken of a long object speculated to have shot the probe to bits? There are photos from Russian space agency on the Internet, very strange.  Second, Ambientlive is a great label, everything they release is uniformly excellent.  I can't wait to get this one!     

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New CD
« on: September 25, 2009, 01:03:39 PM »
Same here.  Went to Ambientlive to buy it but no trace of it on the site. ???

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: upcoming raison d'Ítre album
« on: September 21, 2009, 12:09:33 PM »
Sounds good.  Are you into Arcana? There's a solo album out now by Peter Bjargo that looks cool.

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I've got a modern classical recommendation for you to check out: "Music for Nobheads" by the Blind Idiots. Think you would love it, bud.  :D

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 21, 2009, 01:23:04 AM »
You should read the customer reviews of this on Amazon.  It's split between "this is a masterpiece" and "this is total garbage."  I still need to give it some really deep listening on the headphones as I haven't decided what I think yet.  There's also a website dedicated to this release, www.manafon.com

Regardless of what one may think of this album, Sylvian should be given credit for his creative integrity.  He's doing what he wants without relying on major labels like Virgin trying to "market" him.  Integrity is not something the man has ever lacked in his career.   

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 19, 2009, 11:25:50 PM »
Yes the e.p.'s are a waste of space and money.  Darla pissed me off when they released the two Guthrie/Budd discs separately when with slight editing could have fit on one CD. 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 18, 2009, 10:39:50 PM »
The new Guthrie is nothing new but he always does it so well.  I'm glad that despite Cocteau Twins' disband in the 90's he is still true to his original sound and did not either 1) quit music or 2) go off on some weird tangent.  His collabs with Harold Budd and John Foxx are essential listening! Looking forward to Robin's next e.p. in November, also on Darla Records.

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Thanks for your thoughts on Groove.  I've been a fan since about 1996 when they were still Cue Records.  So many great discs...

I'm glad Hypnos is stocking the label, with much lower prices than anyone else. 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach News
« on: September 17, 2009, 12:02:40 PM »
Nobhead? Nice, I see we have reverted to second grade name-calling.  Very original.  Actually, I was just repeating myself as I thought you were deaf and ignorant.  Plus I thought you had slunk away from this website after being publicly flogged.  Guess you are still hanging around for more punishment. But I wish you would just go away.  :-*

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:38:04 AM »
Yes, that's a good way of putting it: it's about other people's music instead of his own.  I notice he is also sharing song credits with all the guest musicians on this album.  So do you think he'll mutate into spoken word next and leave out the music altogether? (gee I hope not!) I liked the Nine Horses material, too, although musically that seemed to be all Steve Jansen with programming and computers (the "cut n' paste" approach).  I will have to check out that issue of The Wire, thanks for heads up...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: ['ramp] -- debris
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:19:49 AM »
['ramp] is God, and Stephen Parsick is the son of God.  Can't wait to hear "debris"!!!

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Any Groove label fans here? I bought a couple of the new releases via Hypnos. Ron Boots' "Beyond the Boundaries of Twilight", has been in heavy rotation here.  If not the best thing he's ever done, it comes close.  Powerful, majestic, and beautiful from start to finish.  He really nailed it on this one.  Then there's "In the Blink of an Eye" by Create.  This was disappointing in that I like this artist's past work on Groove (thought "Spacetime Continuum" was excellent), but this album isn't very cohesive. More like a collection of tracks, and the Berlin-school sequences are good but nothing special.  If I had to grade it I'd give it a C+.  I also ordered "Lost on an Island of Adventure," which I'm hoping will be more satisfying.  There's a new Paul Ellis disc and Gert Emmens, which I also haven't heard yet...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:01:56 AM »
Went to my local record store to pick up Robin Guthrie's new one on Darla ("Carousel") and lo and behold the clerk stocking all the new Tuesday releases holds in his hand a brand new release by David Sylvian, which I wasn't even aware of until today.  The cover art on this is gorgeous!  Bought it of course with hopes that the true followup to "Secrets of the Beehive" had finally seen the light of day.  My biggest fear: that it's the followup to the awful "Blemish", full of atonal glitch noise, little or no melodies, and more avant-weird gloom packed lyrics.  Unfortunately, it's the latter: sparse, barely-there music, atonal guitars, Fennesz (again), no atmospheric synths, no drums, disjointed and bizarre lyrics, etc.  This album is a bit warmer and a few tracks are quite good (but would've been better with a full band arrangement).  I dunno what DS is aiming for with his releases now.  I don't think he's going to win many new fans with stuff like this (and possibly he doesn't care one way or the other).  It's interesting, it's avant garde, it's different, but is it good?  I may grow to love this, who knows.  One difference I hear now compared to the "classic" Sylvian is the romantic side to him seems to have been replaced by a kind of bitterness and increasing isolation which manifests in somewhat bizarre, non-sensical lyrics.  It's hard to relate to much of the imagery, it is so esoteric and "out there" (or should I say "in there"?)  Sometimes I think after his divorce he went a little extreme with the gloomy lyrics and bleak music.  With such sparse backing music now, I don't know if the records hold up on the strength of THE VOICE alone, but it seems to take precedence now whereas soundscaping and the MUSIC was the true strength of his earlier solo career.  I guess I am still hoping he will snap out of it and get Steve Jansen (playing real drums instead of laptops/programming) and Fripp back in the studio and produce something gorgeous (and more traditional) again.  Any opinions on this subject? I apologize for this long-winded post, especially if you hate Sylvian. 

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