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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 20, 2010, 12:28:55 PM »
Interesting perspective on the Aglaia trio--I thought Reverberant Skies was by far the best and the other two I couldn't get into at all.   :) 

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Roger Waters - The Wall Tour 2010-2011
« on: September 17, 2010, 01:54:49 AM »
I don't know about Comfortably Numb being the best PF song.  Maybe in the context of The Wall, and it's the most radio friendly and well known song, but I think there were tracks on Meddle, Dark Side, and Animals that were better and more definitive of the band as a whole.  Definitely Gilmour's best guitar solo, though (although I always thought the song "Final Cut" had a guitar solo that equals it). 

I supported Rog in the 80's and 90's--there was no Pink Floyd without him.  I could just never really get into all those studio and live albums without him.  Sorry to sound like a PF snob, but it's just my opinion...   


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Everything and Nothing / Re: Late Night Electric Guitar Ambient (Non-drone)
« on: September 13, 2010, 02:53:30 PM »
Mark Dwane is cool, although 90% of his stuff doesn't sound like a guitar at all, so I wouldn't put him in this category. 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Dark Duck prices
« on: September 13, 2010, 02:46:47 PM »
Who is Kunaki?  Never heard of them.  The only two players in this issue were Dark Duck and "2 Check Out.com", the company that ships the product.  All the communications were with Dark Duck.  DD ignored my request for a refund if they were not able to send me an error-free CDR.  It is only when I went to Paypal that I got a response from DD, which was a promise to get back to me the same day. 3 days went by.  Interestingly, I finally received a refund today, shortly after I posted my previous forum post above!  Just coincidence? Who knows.  DD also emailed saying all I had to do before was ask for a refund, without going to Paypal, WHICH I DID before going to Paypal.  Also said I didn't need to be "so mean and rude."  In my communications w/DD I was never rude.  What was rude was being ignored and hoping I would just go away.  As I've said before, if you run a small label and can't handle legitimate complaints in a professional way, and have a begrudging attitude because you HAD to issue a refund, you're probably in the wrong business.   

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Dark Duck prices
« on: September 12, 2010, 11:57:58 AM »
I might add, never dealing with Dark Duck again.  My sole order from them (one CDR) was a complete waste of $17.50, as I received a defective product (eventually two defective products) without any resolution or refund.  When I initially brought it up with the label, I got a response about how it's "rare" their CDR's are ever defective.  Then was informed that after "checking the master file" the errors were on the master and they would be "reissuing" the release.  I received the corrected disc where all the many errors were removed except now there was one very loud error, and when I reported this I was completely ignored, until I brought it up with Paypal.  I was then promised by Dark Duck they'd "check on it" and get me an answer that night.  I never heard back, now two days later...Incidentally Paypal refuses to issue a refund based on a defective/broken product; they will only refund if item was never received.

If you cannot sell a reliable product and are too cheap to issue a refund based on a legitimate complaint, your "business" is gonna fail.  Good luck.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Namlook selling rare FAX on Discogs
« on: September 08, 2010, 07:33:23 PM »
Well if they're selling them now they didn't really need them after all, right?

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If I were asked to give advice on running a label (from a customer's point of view), I'd make these suggestions:

1) Use good quality media/manufacturing of whatever you sell.  Lately I've been running across so many defective products (that were either mastered wrong and then pressed, or CDR's that mistrack/skip) that it makes me not want to even deal with those labels again.  Music consumers dont want to pay for or waste their time on unprofessional products.  If you're in the business of releasing music, better make sure the product's solid before putting it on the market. 
2) Don't release too much music.  Release only the best material.  Some of the smaller "bedroom" labels (run by one person) tend to release literally hundreds of titles of filler with only a few being "Grade A." Assuming most small labels aren't doing it for the money, why release so much stuff if a lot of it is only going to sell a few copies, anyway?
3) Avoid "download only" releases.  If they're not good enough to issue with a physical product why bother?
4) Get others' opinions on possible releases.  If you (the label) think it's amazing but few others do, it might not be a good idea...
5) Don't release stuff as "a favor to a friend." I'm sure this advice could've saved some labels the embarrassment of bad reviews and selling only two copies.
6) Listen to your listeners. Take constructive criticism.   

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Namlook selling rare FAX on Discogs
« on: September 08, 2010, 06:52:03 PM »
I don't think I insinuated that Namlook was RE-PRESSING old albums.  I know for a fact he doesn't do this.  My point was that titles that were declared "sold out" years ago emerging 15 years later for sale at $80 a pop means they weren't REALLY "sold out" back then. 

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Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Hypnos 2010 outlook
« on: September 08, 2010, 12:11:18 PM »
Hypnos digipaks--great idea!!  ;D

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Late Night Electric Guitar Ambient (Non-drone)
« on: September 07, 2010, 01:05:14 AM »
O Yuki Conjugate-OYC 25

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Farscape (great sci-fi series)

Curb Your Enthusiasm (every bit as good as Seinfeld, if not better)

The Shield (lost track of the later seasons, but I remember the first couple were awesome)

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Today I received an email (I was "cc'd") from Jeff Kowal to Ben Cox, encouraging Ben not to let the CRYBABIES get him down.  WTF?  ???

Funny, and hypocritical, considering LS cannot seem to handle any criticism and take it like a man.  Nothing's worse for a customer/buyer who gets a defective, broken product than being given a laundry list of excuses, arguments, and "we strive for excellence" sound-byte that means nothing to the person left holding the product that doesn't work, or work properly. 

BTW, if I spent $30k on a brand new Biemer and they "forgot" some stuff, I'd be PISSED!  :o

If you cannot do it properly (mass release music), then you shouldn't do it at all.  And if you want to refer to anyone who complains as a "crybaby," more power to 'ya, but you're probably not gonna go too far in the business world.   :P

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Some reactions to comments above...

It's not personal.  Don't take it personal.  There was no "personal attack" on the mastering job.  I am only judging something that was put on the market.  

I don't understand how the release ended up in stores without the final product ending up in the label's hands FIRST.  I know Hypnos and other labels receive their releases from the factory, check them out to make sure all OK, and then sell them.  Maybe for future reference this would be a good practice.  

Rudy Adrian's "Moonwater" had some pretty bad glitches as well.  Don't think I ever posted here about that issue, but when it happens again, you do start to wonder about the quality control.  

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Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Hypnos In Vital Weekly
« on: September 01, 2010, 01:15:04 AM »
I agree with you Kaarinen.  A lot of the previews/sound samples I hear (with more frequency nowadays) are pretty uninspiring at best.  You can hear the influences there, but there's NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN! Geez, maybe that' not such a bad phrase after all...The most recent example comes to mind is the upcoming Infraction disc, I forget the name but it's a Japanese artist.  Disappointing preview.

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Hypnos Label Releases / Re: RELEASE: Jeff Pearce - Daylight Slowly
« on: September 01, 2010, 12:50:41 AM »
Yes, I think this is the best Jeff Pearce release of his whole catalog (not just Hypnos), followed by "Shores" and "Bleed."  The new artwork is a perfect fit as well.

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Yes, Ein Sophistry, you are also right about the first four tracks on Distant Stars having problems, not just track 2 (which sadly is the best piece!)--faint glitches, some hiss.  The last two pieces appear to have no sound issues.

I'd really like to see some comments from Lotuspike here--Jeff Kowal used to post here all the time, now you never hear a peep...Speaking of whom, I listened to his TerraAmbient "Wanderlust" CD (also Lotuspike) today after not playing it in a long time, and this is really a great album! I think he managed to bring something really fresh to the perhaps "oversaturated" tribal-ambient genre. 

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Yes, "Farewell" had bad glitches that ruined it for me, and this was a pressed CD release.  I did notice a couple on "Siberian Winter" but not as bad as "Farewell."

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No response from Lotuspike OR Spotted Peccary (the "parent" label).  I see this kind of thing with worrying frequency, too--labels that will totally ignore you when you point out their mistake.  This really pisses me off because the label is putting out shit, which you spend your hard-earned money on, and then their attitude is "tough, we are not going to even acknowledge this, we got your money too bad ha ha."  OK, maybe that's a little extreme, but it is inexcusable to put on the market this type of garbage without proofreading/checking the master and finished product. 

Rudy Adrian's response was surprising and he didn't seem too concerned--something about being deaf in one ear, using old equipment, rushing the release, and that Lotuspike must've used a prelim CDR during production (!?).  He did offer to send the "correct" master CDR, but who wants a CDR when the CD should've been right the first time?

It's sad, this otherwise excellent release was ruined by total sloppiness and nobody seems to care.  Lotuspike should fix this immediately and send all customers replacements!  >:( 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Andrew Lahiff
« on: August 29, 2010, 07:09:57 PM »
REALLY??? I don't know, I played through the samples on his website and my reaction is "yawn"...like the covers artwork though!

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Michael Mantra - "Amanita lake"
« on: August 29, 2010, 11:09:25 AM »
It was called "Mobius Logic." Type of music? Bad.

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