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Everything and Nothing / Re: Most disappointing movie from book?
« on: November 30, 2008, 01:17:12 PM »
Re: The Shining

I just bought the 2-disc special edition of The Shining and watched all the extras, watched the film with commentary and without, and have come to the realization Mike G. was right about the movie being different from the book in that the film is more psychological and less a ghost story.  Mike pointed out that Jack Torrance, in the movie, has an underlying hatred of his family and killing them is not necessarily prompted by the ghosts.  Actually someone interviewed in the extras pointed out how both Jack and Danny have the gift of "the shining," yet Danny uses it more as a warning whereas it feeds Jack's already psychologically embedded issues.  This is a very interesting realization for me considering this is my favorite film of all time.  I now look at it in a whole new light, and actually appreciate it more now.  This version of the film, presented in widescreen, looks amazing, and the extras are very much worth re-buying the movie.  The commentary is by one of Kubrick's cameramen on the film and we get lots of interesting insight into different shots/angles, and the other commentator adds his fascinating remarks about the movie's story itself.  There's a brief interview with electronic legend Wendy Carlos talking about music she did for both Clockwork Orange and The Shining.  Anyone know if the music from the opening sequence is available on CD? 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 12:57:33 PM »
Ah, thanks for that Immersion.  I emailed this "Ure Thrall" a few days ago and haven't heard back.  Perhaps I'll try Drone to get some Asianova discs. 

PS: Eibon releases pressed CD's.  Same label that issued Sola Translatio's "Ad Infinitum."  They also have released dark ambient stuff like Svartsinn (Cyclic Law), Amon, etc.

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Listening to this new Cyclic Law disc by Lacus Somniorum, "Tideshaper."  This is a collaboration between Gustaf Hildebrand, who has two CL releases to his credit, and Amanda Votta aka The Floating World, who was featured on the recent Hypnos compilation "Echoes of Polyhymnia."  I loved her track on that, and "Tideshaper" definitely does not disappoint.  Hildebrand's dark ambient soundscapes are given a new dimension with Votta's voice, flute, and electronics.  The album concept as stated in the press release is describing places unseen by modern civilization or that we will never see ourselves.  This album definitely succeeds in that!  Spooky and surreal yet very beautiful and mysterious, this reminds me of the soundtrack to the final sequence in Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey.  "Tideshaper" is without a doubt one of the best Cyclic Law releases to date.   

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: November 30, 2008, 04:28:38 AM »
I think by and large most ambient artists/labels do a great job with cover imagery, but sometimes (for me at least) bad cover art that's either boring, ugly, or not on the same page as the music can hurt a release because it's giving you something to look at that is not inspiring or indicative of the music.  I think David Parsons, in one of his recent releases, talked about how titles of tracks can suggest imagery to the listener when he'd prefer the listener form their own.  I agree to some extent, and I think cover art is similar in this regard.  Perhaps we should start a new thread: WORST cover art? A couple that come to mind: Tetsu Inoue's DiN label release (as bad as the music!), Roach/Seelig/Metcalf "Nada Terma."

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 04:12:09 AM »
Anyone into this group?  I had seen the name for years and recently discovered some group members made up Voice of Eye (from the mid-90's).  I checked out their Soundclick page and the samples I heard were amazing.  Cosmic drone stuff, very intense and "out there." I think they've only had one CD release (on Eibon Records), the rest have been on CDR. 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Audela: great cosmic space album
« on: November 30, 2008, 04:07:44 AM »
I happened upon this self-titled CD by Audela (on Plague Recordings) in El Hypnos Store-O under the "closeouts/last copies" section.  Man I'm glad I got this. This is one awesome disc. Highly recommended if you like: Oophoi, Tau Ceti, Viridian Sun, etc.  Spooky, mysterious outer space headtrip.  Apparently the inspiration for the music was Jupiter's Great Red Spot.  Check out the amazing cover art, too!!! The disc itself is a photo of Jupiter, nice!  This was limited to 222 hand-numbered copies.  Don't know much about this artist but  will be investigating more for sure.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Rudy Adrian's new Lotuspike CD
« on: November 30, 2008, 03:56:36 AM »
It's enjoyable but utterly forgettable and sounds like a number of other (better) albums in this style.  I love Rudy's stuff but this one is not one of his better works.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 30, 2008, 03:52:15 AM »
re: Carbon Based Lifeforms

I thought "World of Sleepers" was the best thing they've done, in fact it's one of my favorites out of my whole collection.  The samples are great, IMO. 

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Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 29, 2008, 05:00:15 PM »
Zyp: I agree 100%, SF is something special. You should definitely check out the Hypnos store and go to the Umbra (labels) section, and pick up "Floating," "Realms Beyond the Stars and Light" (this is the translated Welsh title), "Quiet Labyrinth," and the Penumbra e.p's, all excellent and these may be the last copies around.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: CD Artwork and Packaging
« on: November 28, 2008, 01:51:24 PM »
Well, Mystery Sea has some of the best artwork on the planet.  Their releases come in standard jewel cases, which I prefer, although like you said they take up a lot of room.  Faria has great artwork, I agree, but those little plastic bags can be a pain to deal with (they tear if you're not careful, and stick to everything which can be annoying).  I used to like digipaks but have found they break down over time; also, you can't replace the tray if needed like on a standard jewelcase. 

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 27, 2008, 03:50:41 PM »
What a coincidence, Phil:

I cranked "Last" by Redshift in my car last night, NOBODY beats them for pulsating, haunting space music of the highest order.  I'm eagerly awaiting my copy of "Turning Towards Us"!!!

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Good interview.  It prompted me to pull out the excellent "Halo" and then order "Flicker" from El Hypnos Store-O.  Looking forward to hearing this one.   

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Undiscovered Moons of Saturn
« on: November 26, 2008, 06:40:46 PM »
I ordered the CDR from Nulll-Void (the artwork looks better to me on this than the CD re-release), can't wait to hear this in its entirety.  Been listening to the three sample tracks all week... 

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Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 26, 2008, 01:24:23 PM »
When I clicked the myspace link, got a message saying account deleted or no longer a user??

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Undiscovered Moons of Saturn
« on: November 26, 2008, 12:39:17 AM »
I discovered this artist via doing some research on Procyon-X (see my post on his excellent "Ghost of Orion" CD), and found UMOS's music is as amazing as the name of his project.  The artist is from New Zealand and style-wise, like Procyon-X, this artist appears to align his work with the "dark astral ambient" genre as opposed to the "ambient space music" category, although some self-descriptions found online referred to Klaus Schulze, Eno, T. Dream, which makes sense once you hear the music.  His one album so far, "Lost in Cosmos," fuses deep floating space synths, neo-classical elements, and doom metal via some menacing grungy guitars that weave in and out of the mix.  If you liked Oophoi's "Celestial Geometries," Lustmord's "Black Stars," or some of the more cosmic Cyclic Law releases, you will probably be into this.  It's dark ambient space music but maybe less abstract and more melodic/structured than those mentioned above.  Apparently his album was originally released on CDR but will now be reissued shortly on CD.  I am definitely ordering this when it comes out.  I'd be interested in opinions about this music, so check out his myspace page, search "undiscovered moons of saturn" in myspace music.  3 nice long track samples available. 

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Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 24, 2008, 07:56:16 PM »
Wow, I am definitely looking forward to Martian Chronicles, perhaps a "sequel" to Celestial Geometries(?) Would this be an Umbra release or on another label? I'll have to check out Oophoi's myspace page...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Steve Roden "Airforms" CD
« on: November 23, 2008, 11:04:54 PM »
"Airforms" is a very good disc of ambient minimalism which reminds me of Eno's sound installation recordings.  Anyone familiar with this artist? He appears to be more of a "sound artist" than "ambient musician", and judging from his website and a couple interviews online the "art" he does is (to me anyways) pretentious modern art, in that the methods and/or explanations of how the art was created seem to be more important than the end result.  On "Airforms" low-end electronic drones are mixed with processed breathing sounds.  It was created for an art installation in which concrete is poured over balloons.  Anyways, photos from the installation make for a very esoteric cover art for this Line/12k album, which was limited to 600 copies.  Bottom line: I like this sound art release, but I don't foresee filling up my music collection with too much more of it.  :-)

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Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: November 23, 2008, 10:45:24 PM »
I've used Maxell CDR-Pro and Maxell "Cool Colors" discs for years with no problems.  From what I understand, CDR's that have had sticker labels placed on them have the most problems with disc rot.  What I do nowadays when I buy releases on CDR is back them up with one of my Maxell discs just in case there's a problem later.  I used to be totally anti-CDR until I realized I'd miss out on a lot of great music.  So I recommend backing them up to your computer or burning a backup disc as I mentioned.  There was a period of time (in the early 2000's) that I had problems with CDR's, and all the problems were from two artists who I bought music from directly.  I believe it was a combination of poor/cheap media and sticky labels.  I can say TDK is one of the brands one of them used and therefore I AVOID them completely.  It's also not just the brand of media, it's how fast the music is being burned to disc.  If you're doing 52K it's too fast and you're going to get clicks.  I use a Dell computer with a program called Sonic Record Now and it takes about 4 min. to burn a disc.  Never had a problem with the CDR's I've burned. 

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 23, 2008, 12:41:50 PM »
Fabio Orsi-Wild Light of the Moon: very good, not as "experimental" as I would have thought, straightahead ambient mostly. Gorgeous cover art.

Fennesz-Venice: my first Fennesz album.  Very cool. Amazing David Sylvian track here.  Guess I'm a fan now so Black Sea on my list.

Xmal Deutschland-Tocsin: early 4AD album (think Cocteau Twins meets Siouxsie and the Banshees, all sung in German), they're okay, can't hold a candle to Cocteaus/Xymox but fun for 80's nostalgia. 

Procyon-X-The Ghost of Orion: one of the best space music albums I've heard this year.

The Threshold of Silence (Umbra compilation): awesome spacemusic w/lots of guitar drones courtesy SiF, A. Baker, P. Bradley, Troum, etc. Glad I snagged one of the last copies from El Hypnos Store.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Procyon-X "The Ghost of Orion"
« on: November 22, 2008, 06:16:04 AM »
I picked up this CD at Aquarius in San Francisco. Excellent synth-based space music, the artist I believe is from a dark metal band and this is a side project.  The label is Paradigms Recordings from the UK, notable for releasing a wide variety of styles like metal, goth, ambient, etc. This is a pressed CD e.p. (about 30 min. length) and comes in a DVD case with some nice cosmic artwork.  Limited to 500 copies. I think the label's website has sound samples.  Highly recommend this one to Forumites...

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