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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 09, 2008, 11:33:56 PM »
I SECOND THAT VOTE for "Iz" by Gel-Sol!! I was gonna start a thread on this disc.  The above description was perfect, so if you like Fax/Emit/Ultimae labels, you would probably love this disc as I do!!

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 09, 2008, 11:26:57 PM »
The Durutti Column-"Treatise on the Steppenwolf" Excellent disc, one of the most ambient DC albums I've heard, typical gorgeous guitars, etc.

Amir Baghiri-"Cages" His first (official) album, and still one of his best.  On the No-CD label.

Circular Ruins-"Falling into the Sky" Perfect music for a melancholy day

Harold Budd-"Agua" Live from Lanzarote music festival '89, he plays live over pre-recorded tapes, nothing groundbreaking but a good overview of his work and flows nicely.

Rod Modell-"Incense and Black Light"
Tetsu Inoue-"Slow and Low"

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: September 07, 2008, 01:50:42 AM »
I agree about Russell Mills, and I'd add Gone to Earth to my list definitely.  It is true when some artwork gets shrunk down to fit a CD booklet it loses its punch: the colors are washed out, details faded, etc. 

Have to mention (again) the early 4AD/23 Envelope stuff, too. I think a lot of it shared the same aesthetic as some of those EG covers (i.e. atmospheric artwork).  BTW, I always considered "The Moon and the Melodies" to be an ambient album (even though it has vocals and drum programming) and I file it apart from my pop/rock collection.

Amplexus, too, with Stefano Gentile's photography, created some of the best ambient artwork to date, as did Oophoi's Umbra label...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: September 04, 2008, 12:29:30 AM »
Borrowing from the last topic by Infraction on ECM/Touch cover artwork: what are some of your favorite covers on ambient CD's?  A few that come readily to mind for me:
Steve Roach-Origins (by photographer William Lesch, amazing stuff)
Oophoi-Celestial Geometries (original Arya/Amplexus version)
Numina-Sanctuary of Dreams
Harold Budd/Cocteau Twins-The Moon and the Melodies
Harold Budd/Brian Eno-The Pearl
Alio Die/Saffron Wood-Corteggiando le Messi

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Touch me, touch me now
« on: September 04, 2008, 12:13:23 AM »
As much as I like to look at pretty pictures on cover art, often I find that the images just don't suit the music at all.  Music is so visual and also personal, in that people think of different imagery when hearing a piece of music.  The artist/photographer is juxtaposing his/her own visual ideas on something you might see quite differently, and sometimes I find the cover art "ruins" it in a sense and I wish I hadn't seen anything preconceived to associate with the music. 

Everything and Nothing / Re: Most disappointing movie from book?
« on: August 31, 2008, 12:47:43 PM »
I know King didn't care for the film, and I did think the book was "better" in terms of being more detailed, more psychologically in-depth, and even creepier than the movie.  That's the problem with books to films, the films are usually an adaptation and/or edited version of the book, so it's probably not fair to say which is "better".  As a stand alone film, if you saw it without having read the book (I read it back in 1982! before I saw the movie), it's still a great achievement in the horror genre, one of the few genuinely scary (IMO) movies made to date.  Kubrick's films in general (as I'm sure you'd agree, Mike) are pure genius regardless of the screenplay/story for his visual enigmatic quality which few have been able to hold a candle to. 

Everything and Nothing / Re: Most disappointing movie from book?
« on: August 31, 2008, 11:13:38 AM »
Wow, I don't get that one...Kubrick "downplayed the supernatural"???  I heartily disagree.  From the moment Nicholson gets the job, he states, "It's almost like I've been here before."  He was a former alcoholic, never drank during the movie (he sits at the bar and talks to ghosts but they removed all the alcohol from the bar before the family moved in for the winter).  That was one of the strengths of the movie, how they put this idea that Nicholson's character was mentally unstable to begin with (alcoholic and violent toward his family).  But all kinds of supernatural stuff was happening to the son (seeing dead people), and in the end the wife sees all the ghosts in the hotel and she isn't crazy or an alcoholic.  And don't forget the films final shot, the close-up of the old photo on the wall where you see Nicholson among all the other "dead" people, almost as if the hotel "claimed his soul" and made him a part of it.  Mike, you should watch it again, the remastered "Kubrick Collection" DVD is amazing with a documentary Kubrick's daughter did during filming of the movie.....

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Now reading
« on: August 31, 2008, 01:18:36 AM »
BUTTMAN magazine, volume 12 no. 7.  Some very interesting articles... ;-)

Everything and Nothing / Re: RIP Isaac Hayes
« on: August 31, 2008, 01:17:03 AM »
When I was a little kid my dad always used to crank up "Theme from Shaft" from some live Isaac Hayes album.  He had a rekkird  player back then.  Remember rekkirds??

Everything and Nothing / Re: for sale on eBay
« on: August 31, 2008, 01:13:27 AM »
Ebay must have an automatic search program for "CDR" because I described one of my items as PREVIOUSLY on CDR, even though the current item was a standard CD, and I got tagged with a warning and I had to relist it.  I have sold CDR's many times (all official with artwork/labels, etc.) and nobody ever complained, most people who know this music know the more "obscure" items are CDR's. I've used "non-silver" once or twice and it works but I generally don't bother, nobody's trippin' over this issue, at least not yet. P.S. Please don't report me to the Ebay police...

Everything and Nothing / Re: Favorite romantic piece of music
« on: August 31, 2008, 12:59:20 AM »
Classical music aside, it's hard to beat Vangelis' "Love Theme from Bladerunner", what a sax solo!!

Everything and Nothing / Re: Most disappointing movie from book?
« on: August 31, 2008, 12:57:00 AM »
Re: Stephen King books to movies...

The Shining is a great book and great movie. I didn't understand the comment that Kubrick omitted the "feel" of the book.  I read the book first and it scared the shit out of me.  So did the movie.  The book was actually creepier, though, and there were a few things from the book I wish had been shown in the movie, but it was a pretty faithful adaptation I thought.  I always tell people they don't make scary movies anymore (especially since this film)..  What has happened to the horror genre? All you get nowaways is graphic violence...Anyways, The Shining is along with 2001: A Space Odyssey in my top five of all time, just a masterpiece of filmmaking IMHO.

Ditto for The Dead Zone, great book great movie.  Christopher Walken was perfect for that role! 

Absolutely right about George Winston's later music.  Geezer music for moms. My mom loves him, I took her to a GW concert long ago, lots of old people in wheelchairs, and one young guy kept "air pianoing" the whole concert. I wanted to slap him.

Hey, don't be cappin' on Windham Hill.  I like a lot of those early WH albums.  Should have said "too John Tesh or Yanni." ;-)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: August 28, 2008, 09:34:13 PM »
Ditto Oophoi's "Celestial Geometries," in my book still reigning champ of deep dark space music...

The problem I have with VG is it leaves me cold.  Play the track "Downtown Inaka" from Zo Pilots REALLY loud.  That sends a shiver down my spine every time I hear it.  It drips emotion.  As for quirky, some people like that thing, which I don't generally, I like my space music deep and "serious", VG is "fun" music.  I don't like fun. ;-)

QUIRKY. Um,  yes, that's the word I'd use for this, but not in a good way, I'm afraid.  After a few listens I can hear very little in the way of the classics Stokes has created like Zo Pilots and Outfolding, which were experimental, psychoactive, and melodic all at once.  This was a huge disappointment for me, sorry to say, and I'll probably get hate mail, but what the heck, it just sounds like noodling to me.  Maybe that was the point, and that it's not supposed to sound like ZP or Outfolding. Looks like so far I'm in the minority here on this opinion, so go easy on me people.  Sorry don't mean to be a party pooper...

Steve Kilbey (The Church) solo album "Painkiller".  7 long years since his last one and it promises to deliver.  So did "Dabble" and it was okay but not what it could/should have been.   

2 amazing Atmoworks releases I just received from Hypnos HQ--Steve Brand "Soulspiral" and Igneous Flame/Achromus "Halo."  Brand's disc is some of the most cosmic music I have heard in my life, this is an essential album and at the top of my list for Best of 2008 to date.  I was totally transfixed from start to finish.  I cannot wait for his upcoming (September) Atmoworks release.  "Halo" is a sublime, deep space drone fest of cosmic proportions (again).  Definitely on my best of list this year. Hats off for the gorgeous cover art on both of these as well!!!

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 24, 2008, 11:20:44 PM »
9 Dragons--are you referring to the ORIGINAL remastered (assuming you have this) Space Ritual, or this new one I just got which has about 13 minutes that were cut from the show, including a longer version of Brainstorming that is just sublime.  The bonus disc, however, is total crap, awful sound quality radio sessions that never should have seen the light of day, at least on a CD.

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