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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: December 15, 2008, 11:54:10 PM »
I think it's quite useless to compare Roach/Rich with Cyclic Law's output.  If CL's stuff isn't deep enough, then don't listen to it. :-)

I definitely would not call CL artists "amateurs."  Could you do any better? I doubt it.  I used to be like this, dismissing stuff at the drop of a hat with my nose turned upwards, when oftentimes I never gave anything a chance that "didn't sound like Steve Roach."  Perhaps due to a mellowing with age, I am much more open minded these days and appreciate more diversity.

Anyways, since you asked 9D, recent CL releases I've liked are: Tholen's "Sternklang," Lacus Somniorum (flutes and all, it's great), G. Hildebrand's "Starscape" (technically not new but it was recently re-pressed). 

I think CL artists are cut from a different cloth as far as music influences are concerned, therefore what they create has a different sound than the "space music" artists.  Their impressions of "space" are quite different sonically than someone like, say, Oophoi, Tau Ceti, or Seren Ffordd.  I don't think they'd care too much what others think anyways, this is music appreciated by a very small slice of the music-buying public.  The artists and fans are really into it, and in the end that should be enough. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: December 14, 2008, 09:39:19 PM »
Lame? Def Leppard 30 years later is lame.  I'd hardly use that word to describe anything Cyclic Law puts out.  Time to put away the Mary Poppins soundtrack and get with the program.

Everything and Nothing / Re: How the CD format compromise the music
« on: December 13, 2008, 12:42:44 AM »
How is Mathias Grassow the "KING" of b-sides??? He never even had an A-side.  The only "bonus" tracks I've seen on a Grassow album were the ones on the reissue of "Arcanum" on Faria Records. 

Everything and Nothing / Re: Forgive me, but I have to write this one out.
« on: December 11, 2008, 11:02:47 PM »
Sorry for your loss.  I recall the line from Blade Runner something along the lines of: "All those moments (washed away?) like tears in rain."

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Undiscovered Moons of Saturn
« on: December 11, 2008, 01:28:59 AM »
I got this disc today, and am pretty disappointed.  Not with the music itself, but the sound quality--this album is marred by a lot of distortion and anomalous noises, which just ruins it.  The volume is much too high, also.  I don't know if maybe I got a bum copy, but if not it sounds like somebody forgot to master it.  The label on the CDR is a silver "sticky" label with nothing printed on it.  Some obvious care and work went into the cover art/booklet, so not sure why a proper disc label couldn't have been made.  I emailed the label (Nulll) inquiring about this.  Will be interested to see what's going on...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 07, 2008, 09:53:47 PM »
Funckarma-Elaztiq Bourbon 5 (Sending Orbs) Amazing stuff.

Future Sound of London-From the Archives 5. Perhaps the best of this series.

Faryus-Night Forest Reality. Drones, drones, and more drones.

Ian Boddy-Slide (DiN) Wow, very strong album. The guy gets better with each release. 

Fabio Orsi-Birds are Smart.  The man can do no wrong.

Gas-Nah und Fern.  Great music, awful packaging.

Redshift-Turning Towards Us.  A bit disappointing knowing what they're capable of, but still a solid album.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: December 03, 2008, 12:26:11 AM »
"Feelings...nothing more than FEELINGS...trying to show my FEELINGS OF LOVE...." (sung with great emotion) to anyone's feelings I hurt over my "worst cover art" comment, especially you sensitive types.  Even though your cover art sucks, I still like your music (more or less). 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New work and changes...
« on: December 01, 2008, 07:44:34 PM »
I got Flicker in the mail today.  I think there's some confusion about CD vs. CDR on this one that should maybe be cleared up (at least on the Hypnos store).  Early posts (see above) indicated it would be on CDR, and a later one stated CD.  In the Hypnos store it is not indicated this is a CDR.  Some people may care one way or the other (I don't), so for their sake maybe it would be helpful to edit the listing. :-)

Everything and Nothing / Re: Most disappointing movie from book?
« on: November 30, 2008, 01:17:12 PM »
Re: The Shining

I just bought the 2-disc special edition of The Shining and watched all the extras, watched the film with commentary and without, and have come to the realization Mike G. was right about the movie being different from the book in that the film is more psychological and less a ghost story.  Mike pointed out that Jack Torrance, in the movie, has an underlying hatred of his family and killing them is not necessarily prompted by the ghosts.  Actually someone interviewed in the extras pointed out how both Jack and Danny have the gift of "the shining," yet Danny uses it more as a warning whereas it feeds Jack's already psychologically embedded issues.  This is a very interesting realization for me considering this is my favorite film of all time.  I now look at it in a whole new light, and actually appreciate it more now.  This version of the film, presented in widescreen, looks amazing, and the extras are very much worth re-buying the movie.  The commentary is by one of Kubrick's cameramen on the film and we get lots of interesting insight into different shots/angles, and the other commentator adds his fascinating remarks about the movie's story itself.  There's a brief interview with electronic legend Wendy Carlos talking about music she did for both Clockwork Orange and The Shining.  Anyone know if the music from the opening sequence is available on CD? 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 12:57:33 PM »
Ah, thanks for that Immersion.  I emailed this "Ure Thrall" a few days ago and haven't heard back.  Perhaps I'll try Drone to get some Asianova discs. 

PS: Eibon releases pressed CD's.  Same label that issued Sola Translatio's "Ad Infinitum."  They also have released dark ambient stuff like Svartsinn (Cyclic Law), Amon, etc.

Listening to this new Cyclic Law disc by Lacus Somniorum, "Tideshaper."  This is a collaboration between Gustaf Hildebrand, who has two CL releases to his credit, and Amanda Votta aka The Floating World, who was featured on the recent Hypnos compilation "Echoes of Polyhymnia."  I loved her track on that, and "Tideshaper" definitely does not disappoint.  Hildebrand's dark ambient soundscapes are given a new dimension with Votta's voice, flute, and electronics.  The album concept as stated in the press release is describing places unseen by modern civilization or that we will never see ourselves.  This album definitely succeeds in that!  Spooky and surreal yet very beautiful and mysterious, this reminds me of the soundtrack to the final sequence in Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey.  "Tideshaper" is without a doubt one of the best Cyclic Law releases to date.   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: November 30, 2008, 04:28:38 AM »
I think by and large most ambient artists/labels do a great job with cover imagery, but sometimes (for me at least) bad cover art that's either boring, ugly, or not on the same page as the music can hurt a release because it's giving you something to look at that is not inspiring or indicative of the music.  I think David Parsons, in one of his recent releases, talked about how titles of tracks can suggest imagery to the listener when he'd prefer the listener form their own.  I agree to some extent, and I think cover art is similar in this regard.  Perhaps we should start a new thread: WORST cover art? A couple that come to mind: Tetsu Inoue's DiN label release (as bad as the music!), Roach/Seelig/Metcalf "Nada Terma."

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 04:12:09 AM »
Anyone into this group?  I had seen the name for years and recently discovered some group members made up Voice of Eye (from the mid-90's).  I checked out their Soundclick page and the samples I heard were amazing.  Cosmic drone stuff, very intense and "out there." I think they've only had one CD release (on Eibon Records), the rest have been on CDR. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Audela: great cosmic space album
« on: November 30, 2008, 04:07:44 AM »
I happened upon this self-titled CD by Audela (on Plague Recordings) in El Hypnos Store-O under the "closeouts/last copies" section.  Man I'm glad I got this. This is one awesome disc. Highly recommended if you like: Oophoi, Tau Ceti, Viridian Sun, etc.  Spooky, mysterious outer space headtrip.  Apparently the inspiration for the music was Jupiter's Great Red Spot.  Check out the amazing cover art, too!!! The disc itself is a photo of Jupiter, nice!  This was limited to 222 hand-numbered copies.  Don't know much about this artist but  will be investigating more for sure.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Rudy Adrian's new Lotuspike CD
« on: November 30, 2008, 03:56:36 AM »
It's enjoyable but utterly forgettable and sounds like a number of other (better) albums in this style.  I love Rudy's stuff but this one is not one of his better works.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 30, 2008, 03:52:15 AM »
re: Carbon Based Lifeforms

I thought "World of Sleepers" was the best thing they've done, in fact it's one of my favorites out of my whole collection.  The samples are great, IMO. 

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 29, 2008, 05:00:15 PM »
Zyp: I agree 100%, SF is something special. You should definitely check out the Hypnos store and go to the Umbra (labels) section, and pick up "Floating," "Realms Beyond the Stars and Light" (this is the translated Welsh title), "Quiet Labyrinth," and the Penumbra e.p's, all excellent and these may be the last copies around.

Everything and Nothing / Re: CD Artwork and Packaging
« on: November 28, 2008, 01:51:24 PM »
Well, Mystery Sea has some of the best artwork on the planet.  Their releases come in standard jewel cases, which I prefer, although like you said they take up a lot of room.  Faria has great artwork, I agree, but those little plastic bags can be a pain to deal with (they tear if you're not careful, and stick to everything which can be annoying).  I used to like digipaks but have found they break down over time; also, you can't replace the tray if needed like on a standard jewelcase. 

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 27, 2008, 03:50:41 PM »
What a coincidence, Phil:

I cranked "Last" by Redshift in my car last night, NOBODY beats them for pulsating, haunting space music of the highest order.  I'm eagerly awaiting my copy of "Turning Towards Us"!!!

Good interview.  It prompted me to pull out the excellent "Halo" and then order "Flicker" from El Hypnos Store-O.  Looking forward to hearing this one.   

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