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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: August 16, 2008, 05:58:32 PM »
I think the only way this would happen is if KS contacted SR, and I highly doubt he'd do it--KS is all orchestral/symphonic these days and he doesn't seem to use the old analog systems any longer but lots of digital synths.  SR has been exploring on recent albums like Proof Positive what KS did long ago (which is why I'm a bigger fan of Roach and less so of KS's output recently). I do think it would be interesting to see what would happen and it's not that I wouldn't want to see it happen, but Im not getting my hopes up!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: August 14, 2008, 03:47:16 AM »
This collaboration will never happen, trust me.  If KS was still doing Timewind/Body Love style music, perhaps, but the styles of these two are so far apart now it wouldn't make much sense.


No, I live in CA, so you better put your review here Darren!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Rapoon "Library of the Dead"?
« on: August 11, 2008, 12:19:57 AM »
I have not seen one comment or review.  My finger keeps going off/on the order button at his site, it's like a Russian roulette--you don't know what you'll get (weird unlistenable experiment or rapturous ambient headtrip)...Mr. Bergstein, your review please!

First impressions: I didn't find this companion to Sounds of a Universe Overheard noticeably darker, stranger, or less musical, but pretty similar actually.  Like Universe, the second half (tracks 6-10) seemed to "kick in" for me more than the first half, for whatever reason.  Not to say I didn't like the first five tracks, they are all good.  If I had to pick a favorite track, I'd go with Phaenon's "Quantum Silence," will have to investigate this artist further after this for sure.  Stephen Philips' "Down Deep" is another standout piece for me.  Oophoi's "Ice Light" is a perfect album closer and will not disappoint any Oophoi-fanatics.  Well done by all involved. Looking forward to the next comp. of all female artists!

I have always thought CD's were overpriced from the beginning (1986?).  It's my understanding they were never more expensive to make than records or cassettes, which were about, what, $9 in retail stores? Suddenly you had to pay twice as much for an album.  The prices have gone down over the years, but they are still overpriced.  At least they got rid of those big lunky longboxes they were packaged in originally.  Now if only they would do away with wrapping CD's in cellophone and putting that people proof sticker over the top that takes 2 hours to remove.  Especially annoying when you unseal the damn thing only to find a big SCRATCH on the CD! But I digress....The "music industry" (big record companies) I believe set this "standard" for how much CD's "should" cost.  Of course it only cost like 50 cents to make, $1 went to the artist, and the rest went to greedy record execs. in suits. No wonder stores like Tower Records had to close.  Nobody was paying $18 and $19 for a Def Leppard CD anymore when they could download it, get a burn from their friends, or buy it for $11 or $12 at a smaller record store chain.  Hypnos label prices have always been extremely fair comparatively, but I'd like to see them come down even more, to like $1. No I'm just kidding. But $10 still seems like a good figure.  Actually many Hypnos titles are under $10 in the online store (the older ones mainly, are those that I am guessing did not sell as well as others).  I don't mind paying $12.99 for Hypnos CD's, although when you add on shipping it works out to $16 per new Hypnos release.  I think if prices were lowered a bit it would encourage more people to buy CD's instead of downloading them (officially or unofficially).  Although now with the advent of the iPod, people are doing away with CD's altogether to save space and for convenience purposes.  In my own version of a perfect world, all CD's would cost $10, iPod's would not exist, CDR's would not exist, and downloading music wouldn't be an option.  I guess I am an old school music consumer.     

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: August 07, 2008, 10:44:15 PM »
Dissolution is a great dark ambient album, I agree.  I should get that one out of my huge pile of Grassow stuff (if I can find it, hah!), I've lost count of how many I have by him.  The Place Where the Black Stars Hang is definitely one of the seminal dark ambient releases.  I think that one is often used as a comparison for so many others that came after it.  The sounds of subatomic particles swelling in a miasma of dark matter in a galaxy far far away......

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: R.I.P. Backroads Music
« on: August 07, 2008, 10:37:44 PM »
I've been to Lloyd's office many times over the years--you've never seen so many CD's crammed into such a little office, the poor guy could hardly walk around in there! I've rarely met somebody so passionate about this music, for so long.  Business issues aside, he's truly a music fanatic and super cool guy. 

NUMINA, OOPHOI, and AUSTERE.  The first two haven't heard anything new from them in awhile (discounting Oophoi's Glacial Movements disc). After the awesome "Solyaris" disc by Austere, look forward to anything new from them.  I bought Sounds of Universe when it first came out and found it a very high quality compilation (as all Hypnos comps.)  I'm also looking forward to discovering some names I was not familiar with previously.  Will post my impressions of course when my copy shows up...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 03, 2008, 12:53:39 PM »
Rod Modell-Incense and Black Light
Future Sound of London-Environments (wonderful "lost" FSOL album just reissued)
Gel-Sol-Iz (brilliant)
The Promises of Silence-various artists
Carbon Based Lifeforms-World of Sleepers (best thing Ultimae has released to date IMO)
Fanger & Kersten-Elektrik Massage
M. Griffin-Fabrications
Dead Can Dance remastered reissues (worth re-buying these classics)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / R.I.P. Backroads Music
« on: July 30, 2008, 10:37:28 PM »
Really sad to see Backroads Music closing down after all these years.  I've been ordering from Lloyd for 15 years and in my book he is the undisputed king of ambient retailers, so much great music discovered via his help over the years.  Guess I'll be shelling out the cash now to the Hypnos store more often. :-)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: klaus schulze
« on: July 30, 2008, 10:25:52 PM »
I bought the KS/Lisa Gerrard "Farscape" set.  Don't think it was worth the $30 import price (US release is another month away). Kind of what I had expected/feared: two great artists doing something together with ho-hum results.  Over two discs, there was one track I really liked but most of it just sounds like the "Ballett" series with LG singing instead of the other female vocalists he has used recently.  Musically KS purists won't be bowled over, it's pretty much the same classical sounding chord progressions he has done ad infinitum, w/LG improvising over the top.  I'd rather listen to a DCD album and "Timewind" or "Body Love 2" separately instead of this album. 

The new Vir Unis, although I haven't read any reviews yet.  Anyone have this yet?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 25, 2008, 08:07:41 AM »
Yeah dark ambient is depressing. I save it for special occasions, otherwise I'd probably walk around in a catatonic state feeling life was one big black abyss of nothingness :-)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Dead Can Dance reissues
« on: July 24, 2008, 11:37:59 PM »
Bought the first five DCD reissued remasters and for the most part sound quality is noticeably better than the originals.  These are remastered, pressed in Japan on gold discs (Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs) and are hybrid SACD, in mini-album jackets with full lyrics and previously unseen (at least to me) photos of Perry and Gerrard, along with other members of the original early line-up when they were more of a "band." Nice. I believe this run is limited, and the "standard" releases will soon follow (jewel cases, standard discs).  The first two: "Garden of the Arcane Delights" e.p. and "Dead Can Dance" get a much-needed volume boost, deeper lows, and cleaner sound. Excellent. "Spleen and Ideal" and "Within the Realm of a Dying Sun" (arguably their two masterworks) benefit from the same improvements.  More in your face and put the sub-woofers to a good workout.  Strangely, "The Serpent's Egg" sounds exactly like the original. Not sure why, maybe I am imagining this. Would be interested to read other opinions if anyone else noticed this...??? or opinions in general on these reissues.   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 24, 2008, 11:16:30 PM »
Mike makes a good point here.  Actually the Andrea Marutti stuff is perhaps better classified as "ambient drone that happens to be dark." Same with Oophoi, a lot of his music is dark but in the current definition of "dark ambient" his stuff is quite different.  "Dark Ambient" now seems to imply industrial-instrumental-noisy-scary. My local record store (Amoeba in San Francisco) has a whole section titled "dark ambient" and basically what you find is the Cyclic Law/Cold Meat labels and artists. The store would stock Marutti probably under "experimental" (as well as Oophoi), and they have Lustmord stuff in the "Gothic" section, along with Alio Die! So go figure.  Still haven't figured out why they moved Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze out of "New Age" and into "Psychedelic," yet they left Steve Roach discs under "New Age" alongside Yanni, Harold Budd, and Michael Brook.  I don't get it.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:58:41 PM »
A very good dark ambient disc I got recently from the Hypnos store is Andrea Marutti's "Subliminal Relation Between the Planets" on Nextera.  HIs first release under his own name, also records as Amon and Never Known. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach, "Landmass"
« on: July 19, 2008, 05:50:31 PM »
Dude, I got dis cranked up to 11 on da stare-eo and it is sounding sweet!!! (sorry neighbors)Think "Arc of Passion" but even better.  A mind-melting symphony of magnificent voiderama infused by pulsating blood-machines, proof positive that the Roach is still the master of ambient. 3 big thumbs up!!!!

This is a very good dark ambient disc, much more effective on the headphones than on home system as it is so quiet and subtle.  Another excellent GM release. :-)

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