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Thanks for your thoughts on Groove.  I've been a fan since about 1996 when they were still Cue Records.  So many great discs...

I'm glad Hypnos is stocking the label, with much lower prices than anyone else. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach News
« on: September 17, 2009, 12:02:40 PM »
Nobhead? Nice, I see we have reverted to second grade name-calling.  Very original.  Actually, I was just repeating myself as I thought you were deaf and ignorant.  Plus I thought you had slunk away from this website after being publicly flogged.  Guess you are still hanging around for more punishment. But I wish you would just go away.  :-*

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:38:04 AM »
Yes, that's a good way of putting it: it's about other people's music instead of his own.  I notice he is also sharing song credits with all the guest musicians on this album.  So do you think he'll mutate into spoken word next and leave out the music altogether? (gee I hope not!) I liked the Nine Horses material, too, although musically that seemed to be all Steve Jansen with programming and computers (the "cut n' paste" approach).  I will have to check out that issue of The Wire, thanks for heads up...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: ['ramp] -- debris
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:19:49 AM »
['ramp] is God, and Stephen Parsick is the son of God.  Can't wait to hear "debris"!!!

Any Groove label fans here? I bought a couple of the new releases via Hypnos. Ron Boots' "Beyond the Boundaries of Twilight", has been in heavy rotation here.  If not the best thing he's ever done, it comes close.  Powerful, majestic, and beautiful from start to finish.  He really nailed it on this one.  Then there's "In the Blink of an Eye" by Create.  This was disappointing in that I like this artist's past work on Groove (thought "Spacetime Continuum" was excellent), but this album isn't very cohesive. More like a collection of tracks, and the Berlin-school sequences are good but nothing special.  If I had to grade it I'd give it a C+.  I also ordered "Lost on an Island of Adventure," which I'm hoping will be more satisfying.  There's a new Paul Ellis disc and Gert Emmens, which I also haven't heard yet...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / David Sylvian "Manafon" new CD
« on: September 16, 2009, 12:01:56 AM »
Went to my local record store to pick up Robin Guthrie's new one on Darla ("Carousel") and lo and behold the clerk stocking all the new Tuesday releases holds in his hand a brand new release by David Sylvian, which I wasn't even aware of until today.  The cover art on this is gorgeous!  Bought it of course with hopes that the true followup to "Secrets of the Beehive" had finally seen the light of day.  My biggest fear: that it's the followup to the awful "Blemish", full of atonal glitch noise, little or no melodies, and more avant-weird gloom packed lyrics.  Unfortunately, it's the latter: sparse, barely-there music, atonal guitars, Fennesz (again), no atmospheric synths, no drums, disjointed and bizarre lyrics, etc.  This album is a bit warmer and a few tracks are quite good (but would've been better with a full band arrangement).  I dunno what DS is aiming for with his releases now.  I don't think he's going to win many new fans with stuff like this (and possibly he doesn't care one way or the other).  It's interesting, it's avant garde, it's different, but is it good?  I may grow to love this, who knows.  One difference I hear now compared to the "classic" Sylvian is the romantic side to him seems to have been replaced by a kind of bitterness and increasing isolation which manifests in somewhat bizarre, non-sensical lyrics.  It's hard to relate to much of the imagery, it is so esoteric and "out there" (or should I say "in there"?)  Sometimes I think after his divorce he went a little extreme with the gloomy lyrics and bleak music.  With such sparse backing music now, I don't know if the records hold up on the strength of THE VOICE alone, but it seems to take precedence now whereas soundscaping and the MUSIC was the true strength of his earlier solo career.  I guess I am still hoping he will snap out of it and get Steve Jansen (playing real drums instead of laptops/programming) and Fripp back in the studio and produce something gorgeous (and more traditional) again.  Any opinions on this subject? I apologize for this long-winded post, especially if you hate Sylvian. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Sigur Ros' first CD
« on: September 15, 2009, 11:18:33 PM »
I agree about the vocals, which is why I had a hard time really liking Sigur Ros.  But actually the first album "Von" has no male vocals, just some Cocteau Twins/Slowdive like female vocals, and lots of gorgeous female synth choral sounds.  There is none of that high-pitched man-boy singing here!  "Von" is basically a series of soundscapes with a few structured "songs" but it plays more like an early 70's prog album than an alternative/indie rock thing.  This hasn't left my discman player in days...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Sigur Ros' first CD
« on: September 14, 2009, 01:01:47 AM »
"Von," the Icelandic band's first album, is some seriously GREAT ambient space music.  In fact it shouldn't even be filed as a "rock" album.  I had heard most of their output after this 1997 debut and thought they were interesting but highly overrated.  Von is nothing like the post-indie rock Radioheadish stuff they did after this.  How to describe this...if Edgar Froese circa '74/'75 met the cosmic space guitars of Slowdive circa '93/'94, while Pink Floyd circa '71 and Eno circa '83/'84 sat in at the mixing desk, it might have sounded like this.  If you go on Amazon and read the reviews, most SR fans didn't seem to care for it as there weren't any "songs", save for one track (and it's the best "song" of anything SR did after this debut).  I see Amazon has 30 used copies starting at $6.99.  Don't miss this one, it is spectacular!!!

Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Upcoming Hypnos releases?
« on: September 13, 2009, 11:50:37 AM »
These days I have been storing all my newly bought digipaks and other cardboard packaged releases in plastic sleeves, and this seems to do the job.  The sleeves keep packages from becoming torn up, dirty, or frayed around the edges.  Therefore, I still think Mike's idea is excellent, especially when it means facilitating more Hypnos releases in the future. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: nautic depths, north passage
« on: September 07, 2009, 10:24:53 PM »
This is an INCREDIBLE deep ambient drone album, cannot recommend this highly enough.  I believe there a few copies left, and only at CD Baby. 

Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Upcoming Hypnos releases?
« on: September 05, 2009, 03:28:13 PM »
Two thumbs up on the current plan for Hypnos packaging.  Good design. I say go for it.  :)

Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Upcoming Hypnos releases?
« on: September 03, 2009, 12:16:47 PM »
Although I like Cyclic Law's artful packaging, like Faria the "special packaging" is not always most convenient, with the annoying little bags that stick to everything.  Maybe something like a glossy CD-sized cardboard sleeve (like Amplexus used to have for some of their full-length releases) would be good for Hypnos.  These days I'm coming around more to alternative packaging, as my collection grows I'm being overrun with jewel cases.  8)   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach News
« on: August 25, 2009, 12:25:00 PM »
Dynamic Stillness--great packaging/artwork, b-o-r-i-n-g music.  Masterpiece="Origins." The effects are taking over, now it's one long loop of reverb.   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: new fireman cd
« on: August 25, 2009, 12:02:42 PM »
I agree 100% and so did a lot of reviewers on this awful album.  Shame as "Rushes" was so good.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach News
« on: August 24, 2009, 12:25:16 PM »
Put on Dynamic Stillness last night.  Seems to me SR used to be an innovator with truly "dynamic" sounds. Lately he seems to operate more as "ambient DJ," he has fallen into a niche and now gives the people what they want and expect rather than explore new territory.  I was totally bored and uninterested by the MP3 samples of the three new ones, it all sounds recycled from DS sessions to these ears.  ::)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach News
« on: August 22, 2009, 05:54:44 PM »
These endless debates are about as much fun as watching paint dry.  "First I found it annoying, but then Ioved its subtle psychoactive beauty.  But then I listened again and hated it!"  I can just imagine the new mini-novels to be written when these CD's are actually released.  :-)

Couple of good tracks here but nothing great.  I am selling my copy, if interested get in touch...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 06, 2009, 11:21:39 PM »
Nemesis-Music for Earports.  Probably their most ambient release. Finland's finest. Awesome.

Apoptose-Schattenmadchen.  Strangely beautiful and unsettling, yet dreamy.  This German group gets categorized as Goth, experimental and ambient, but still hard to pigeonhole into one category. I love this disc.

A Produce-Land of a Thousand Trances Special Edition.  Makes me long for some new music from this stellar artist.

Forrest Fang-Phantoms.  Believe the hype. It's great!!!!! 

I wasn't speaking about MODERN classical, buddy.  Let's not get all nitpicky about it.  So maybe before you jump to conclusions and get all anal about it, you shouldn't type either.  Who's ignorant now?  8)

Bought this over the weekend in SF and it was by far the best of the batch of my purchases. A truly stellar release!  Easily on my Top 10 of 2009 list.  I'm still trying to figure out what that thing is on the front cover, though.  (a log, block of wood???) Another photo inside looks like a light switch but couldn't tell you what it is, either.  Guess it goes with the music--mysterious and ethereal...

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