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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 25, 2008, 08:07:41 AM »
Yeah dark ambient is depressing. I save it for special occasions, otherwise I'd probably walk around in a catatonic state feeling life was one big black abyss of nothingness :-)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Dead Can Dance reissues
« on: July 24, 2008, 11:37:59 PM »
Bought the first five DCD reissued remasters and for the most part sound quality is noticeably better than the originals.  These are remastered, pressed in Japan on gold discs (Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs) and are hybrid SACD, in mini-album jackets with full lyrics and previously unseen (at least to me) photos of Perry and Gerrard, along with other members of the original early line-up when they were more of a "band." Nice. I believe this run is limited, and the "standard" releases will soon follow (jewel cases, standard discs).  The first two: "Garden of the Arcane Delights" e.p. and "Dead Can Dance" get a much-needed volume boost, deeper lows, and cleaner sound. Excellent. "Spleen and Ideal" and "Within the Realm of a Dying Sun" (arguably their two masterworks) benefit from the same improvements.  More in your face and put the sub-woofers to a good workout.  Strangely, "The Serpent's Egg" sounds exactly like the original. Not sure why, maybe I am imagining this. Would be interested to read other opinions if anyone else noticed this...??? or opinions in general on these reissues.   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 24, 2008, 11:16:30 PM »
Mike makes a good point here.  Actually the Andrea Marutti stuff is perhaps better classified as "ambient drone that happens to be dark." Same with Oophoi, a lot of his music is dark but in the current definition of "dark ambient" his stuff is quite different.  "Dark Ambient" now seems to imply industrial-instrumental-noisy-scary. My local record store (Amoeba in San Francisco) has a whole section titled "dark ambient" and basically what you find is the Cyclic Law/Cold Meat labels and artists. The store would stock Marutti probably under "experimental" (as well as Oophoi), and they have Lustmord stuff in the "Gothic" section, along with Alio Die! So go figure.  Still haven't figured out why they moved Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze out of "New Age" and into "Psychedelic," yet they left Steve Roach discs under "New Age" alongside Yanni, Harold Budd, and Michael Brook.  I don't get it.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:58:41 PM »
A very good dark ambient disc I got recently from the Hypnos store is Andrea Marutti's "Subliminal Relation Between the Planets" on Nextera.  HIs first release under his own name, also records as Amon and Never Known. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach, "Landmass"
« on: July 19, 2008, 05:50:31 PM »
Dude, I got dis cranked up to 11 on da stare-eo and it is sounding sweet!!! (sorry neighbors)Think "Arc of Passion" but even better.  A mind-melting symphony of magnificent voiderama infused by pulsating blood-machines, proof positive that the Roach is still the master of ambient. 3 big thumbs up!!!!

This is a very good dark ambient disc, much more effective on the headphones than on home system as it is so quiet and subtle.  Another excellent GM release. :-)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Rapoon "Library of the Dead"?
« on: July 15, 2008, 08:51:11 PM »
Well I didn't order this for fear it would be like "Mental Travellers," which was a huge disappointment. Didn't care much for Alien Glyph Morphology, either.  But Church Road was awesome.  Agreed--the guy is definitely hit and miss.  He had that period around 93-97 when there were very few disappointments.  Was also disappointed to learn the "US tour" only consisted of one show in Boston.  Would be a dream come true to see Mr. Storey live in action...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Rapoon "Library of the Dead"?
« on: July 14, 2008, 10:08:00 PM »
There is a new Rapoon CD available from the Rapoon site, on a small Russian label.  Haven't seen any reviews/comments yet.  Anybody have this? It's called "the Library of the Dead." Sounds like a fun CD...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: klaus schulze
« on: July 12, 2008, 12:54:48 AM »
If anyone can come up with a photo of Klaus where he is not holding a cigarette, please inform me.  I have given up all hope.

Hypnos Label Releases / Re: Seren Ffordd - Veils, Shadows
« on: July 08, 2008, 12:24:54 AM »
Finally got around to buying this and I must echo all the other praise.  I have everything SF released previously to this (Umbra label) and Veils Shadows may be the best I've heard from him.  Spooky, surreal, and totally engrossing listen from start to finish.  HIGHLY recommend this disc!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: klaus schulze
« on: July 04, 2008, 01:57:08 PM »
Of the new stuff I agree Kontinuum is a great disc.  Ballett 3 is excellent, too, the best of this series.  Virtual Outback is also one of his better recent (reissued) releases. 

Another vote here for Zo Pilots, my fave Stokes album.  Don't forget Abstraction, his excellent release on Greenhouse Music.   :)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Hawkwind
« on: June 25, 2008, 12:08:26 PM »
I only got into these guys about 2 years ago and it was like, "why didn't I discover this earlier?!!" They are the Kings of Spacerock, without a doubt.  Believe the hype...

That's roughly $25 per disc.  Most box sets compensate and break down to about $10-$15 per disc so people can afford it.  I am a huge Saiz fan and I would LOVE to have one of these but I can't see myself paying that much for any music release, no matter who it is.  But I am ITCHING to get this box, so I might do something crazy, you never know...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: June 14, 2008, 08:34:29 AM »
Just wanted to clarify: when I used the phrase "some people don't get it," I was not speaking about Roach fans or ambient fans, but more the people who don't enjoy/listen to/know anything about ambient/electronic music.  To some people (my parents especially, who used to call it "non-music"), if something doesn't have melody and isn't on the radio then it isn't real music and they're like, "What's this all about? This is just a bunch of sounds that never change, I'm waiting for it to start, etc. etc."  So "not getting it" doesn't mean they're stupid or subhuman, but more it hasn't registered with them as something worthwhile and enjoyable.  People into country or rap would probably say I don't "get it" either. :-)

As far as personal tastes concerning the vast Roach catalogue, opinions (as evident in this topic) are going to vary widely.  I've never met a Roach album I didn't like, but some I like much more than others.  I still buy everything he releases because I am a fan and always will be.

Hi all,

I've turned Mike onto Suso's 1992 ambient guitar masterpiece "Hypnotics" and I was hoping it could be re-issued as a Hypnos CD.  I notice it is included in this box set (in fact, three versions of it).  I agree the price of 138 Euros is pretty ridiculous (approx. $200!).  Anyways, I urge anyone interested in seeing a Saiz reissue on Hypnos to show their support here.  Three votes so far. Keep 'em coming! :-)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Acid Mothers Temple
« on: June 11, 2008, 08:13:06 PM »
Right on, space brother!!!  May you travel through the realms of interstellar nirvana as your brain melts into a pool of pure cosmic energy............

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Gordon Danis Passes Away
« on: June 10, 2008, 10:58:29 PM »
This is very sad news. Although I didn't know him personally, I have greatly enjoyed his enthusiastic and interesting comments on this forum over the years.  He was definitely a champion of this music and supporter for many of the artists.  Rest in peace, Gordon, you will be missed.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: June 06, 2008, 07:57:42 PM »
I Awake-"The Core" (Ultimae). Another winner of ambient chill-scapes from this great great label.

Tangerine Dream-"Booster" Well the back cover says this sounds like Rubycon and Phaedra. Not by a longshot! But it's still a good album of modern TD, this one's all E. Froese.

Move D/Namlook-"Travelling the Silk Route" (Fax) Another good 'un on Fax.

Gary Numan-"Exile" One of this dude's best...

M. Griffin-"Fabrications" This dude sux (just kidding)

Klaus Schulze-"Virtual Outback" Tasty modern Schulze, sounds like about 50 of his other albums, but it's all good nonetheless

Rod Modell-"Incense and Black Light" Hella cool.

Gel-Sol-"Iz" Like some lost Fax album from the early 90's.  Sweet.

Evan Marc/Steve Hillage-"Dreamtime Submersible" It doesn't get much better than this...

Carbon Based Lifeforms-"World of Sleepers" Maybe the best Ultimae album to date.  A total masterpiece.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Acid Mothers Temple
« on: June 06, 2008, 01:02:14 PM »
I just discovered this Japanese space-rock outfit, Acid Mothers Temple and the Melting Paraiso U.F.O. (great name!) via their album "Crystal Rainbow Pyramid Under the Stars." Very Hawkwind-ish, with trippy electronics and blistering guitar solos.  In a more ambient vein, AMT member Kawabata Makoto's "Hosanna Mantra" is a tribute of sorts to Popol Vuh's "Hosianna Mantra," wherein he weaves ambient guitar drones, looped sitars for an Ashra-like effect.  These are both on the Important label, which releases a lot of experimental/noise projects.

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