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The release date for Roach/Reyes is October 28.

Thom Brennan.  Seems to have disappeared from the earth (along with Tetsu Inoue). No new album for five or so years.

Andrey Faryus (Faria Records).  I assume the label folded, but never heard anything for years.

Patrick O Hearn.  Seems ages ago there was new music.

Steve Roach.  No new album in about three months.  I'm starting to worry.   ;)

I really liked their piece on the recent Projekt compilation, so just went to Tim Story website to see if the album was available yet.  Yes, limited edition 750 copies, signed numbered.  Clicked the add to cart button and was shocked to see this CD costs $35!!!  I'm sorry, I'd pay at most $25 for something like this (even that is a little much). 

What justifies asking $35 for one 50 minute CD?  Lazy Arc is the name of the album.  If you wanna blow your whole paycheck on it, be my guest!   ;D

That bothers me as well on Bandcamp where it's not specified if it's a CD or Cdr.  Although maybe bandcamp's definition isn't particular and the two are lumped together.  Seems like the artist/seller on bandcamp could specify this for its buyers.

Sam replied back and he says Terrace of Memories only sold 15 copies per year.  Therefore to keep it in print they ranoff 100 only cdrs.  They needed 300 for a pressed CD run.  This was done four years ago.  He also said Discmakers, who manufacture their CD's, has better quality cdrs than most.  He offered to refund my money if the disc ever goes bad, which was nice.  So I'm guessing that Wollo release was so limited they put it on a cdr(?)

I still think a large(r) label like Projekt should never put anything on a cdr though, no matter how good the quality or if they're "pro."

Perfect description.  I think some of the black ones are pressed, or the silver may have been sprayed black.  The reissue of Kiss Destroyer was like this. 

I received a response from Sam Rosenthal.  He stated "to keep the album in print" they made 100 cdrs.  He stated they "haven't had any complaints about playability.". See, he knows these can have play issues.  So why release them at all.  I feel it's unethical (maybe too strong a word) to do this without a buyer beware heads up.  You buy a CD on projekt and you assume you're getting a CD.  Period!  I told him I wasn't happy about it and requested he send me a spare CD version disc if he has one.

Can you imagine Steve Roach putting his name on a CDR?  It just would never happen.  Case closed.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.  I'll post the follow-up soon...

I just received Terrace of Memories (Vidna Obmana/Rosenthal) today, bought on eBay, which was "New and sealed.". The disc is a CDR! (albeit a pro type disc with on-disc printing).  Anyone know if the label ever released cdr before?  Is this a bootleg??  I've emailed Sam R., waiting for a reply...

Most anticipated Projekt CD this year:  Steve Roach & Jorge Reyes--Ancestor Circle.  Woo hoo!!!!!

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:15:18 PM »
Doot Doot!

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 12, 2014, 01:57:52 PM »
Perpetual!  Great title for a long-form ambient work.  ;)

Just picked up last night:

Harold Budd- Jane 12-21. Now I'm to the point where I don't always buy Harold's stuff right away as he seems very hit and miss in the quality department.  This follow-up to "Jane 1-11" appeared in my local record store and I actually didn't buy it last time, but last night I took the plunge.   Really glad I did, this is superior to the first installment (which I liked) and dare I say, some of his best (solo) work in years.  He touches on many different styles on this record, from the icy reverbed/echoed piano, to acoustic piano, to drony/abstract synths, etc.  This album reminds me why I was so obsessed with his music upon first discovering it in the 80's.  One comment about the packaging and the Darla Records label putting his stuff out.  It seems Darla likes to package/release music without the consumer in mind.  Darla released Jane 1-11 by itself, then reissued it in another version with a DVD, then released Jane 12-21 by itself.  The Jane project could have easily been issued as a two-disc set.  Even edited, as both discs are relatively short on playing time.  Darla also released Before the Night Falls/After the Day Breaks as two separate discs some years ago, and each disc was so short that with minimal editing it could have been one disc.  This is the kind of stuff the major labels will do to "increase revenue."  I'm sure they could argue it's all for artistic reasons, and that's fine, but it just seems excessive to have to shell out close to $30 for a domestic release that is basically one CD worth of music.  Also, the packaging for Jane 12-21 is extremely sparse--just a thin slipcase (not even a digipak) with the exact same cover graphics.  I don't know, it just feels like you're having to pay $14 for a "bonus disc" or something that should have been included on the first release.  Now that my grumbling is overů..most important thing THIS IS A GREAT DISC.  HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!  :)   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: RIP Pete Namlook
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:28:56 PM »
By the way, my faves of the dts releases were the Move D/Namlook, my fave being "Sexoid."

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: RIP Pete Namlook
« on: October 10, 2014, 03:52:45 PM »
Ha!  I didn't like Virtual Vices VI either.

The problem with the Namlook Dts selection is that overall it was some of his weakest music.  Nothing worse than paying close to $30 for an album that kinda sucks.  ;D

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 10, 2014, 09:35:14 AM »
Within Reason--Subtle Shift, Substrate, Farshadow.  All 3 CDs on eBay for $20.  Greg of Alpha Wave Movement.  Ambient dub.  Excellent.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 10, 2014, 08:06:57 AM »
Your Dreams set still plays?  Mine went bad months after I bought them.  Luckily they were reissued.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach - Bloodmoon Rising
« on: October 09, 2014, 08:20:45 AM »
Great piece.  I would bet this will show up on CD in the future. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Enigma fans?
« on: October 09, 2014, 08:18:04 AM »
I became a fan after buying the third record, Le Roi est Mort.  Previous to that I thought enigma was good but not great.  I would say my interest waned too over the years, mainly being preoccupied with other electronic music.  Yesterday I played the whole catalog back to back and each record has something special.  I don't agree with these people on Amazon who say each record is the same.  Michael Cretu is a very interesting guy, too.  Check out the interviews on YouTube.  Not many, but there are a few.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Any Enigma fans?
« on: October 08, 2014, 02:19:17 PM »
I read recently that after the first album, each subsequent one sold only half as well as its immediate predecessor. 

That being said, I could care less what the sales are or about the Amazon customers who love to slagg off Michael Cretu as a has been who lost his creativity.  To me his releases have been consistently excellent.

I read a new album  is released late 2014/early 2015. 

So, any fans here??

Hypnos Label Releases / Outfolding CD Cover Art
« on: October 08, 2014, 01:26:34 PM »
So am I really twisted in seeing a giant VAGINA in this artwork???  Especially since its called OutFOLDING. 

I'm sick, I know, I need help......

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 05, 2014, 01:00:36 AM »
Future Sound of London--Environment Five.  This is the first all new Fsol recording since Dead Cities in 1996.  Some of the most beautiful music they have recorded.  Amazing album!!!

Fluxion--Broadwalk Tales.  Ambient dub with soulful vocals, on Echocord.  Sublime stuff.

Taylor Deupree--January.  Glitchy, experimental pieces with a soft, warm glow.  Nice, but you have to be in the right mood to "get it."

Robert Scott Thompson/James Johnson- Forgotten Places.  Serene, melancholy music.  Gorgeous and very Harold Budd like. 

Vidna Obmana--The River of Appearance.  An enduring classic from the mid 90's.

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