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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by ffcal on Yesterday at 02:11:15 PM »
I used to use a friends ADAT and Mackie (1604?) mixer set-up years ago with various Lexicon and Drawmer units. I have to say, I wouldn't fancy returning to that now !
Moving away from the computer is definitely something I'd like to do more of, though.

I agree, it's not for everyone.  Processing, though, is a large part of my current sound and some the effects I can get through my analog mixer just don't sound the same via a computer.

Forrest
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by petekelly on Yesterday at 11:54:41 AM »
I used to use a friends ADAT and Mackie (1604?) mixer set-up years ago with various Lexicon and Drawmer units. I have to say, I wouldn't fancy returning to that now !
Moving away from the computer is definitely something I'd like to do more of, though.
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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Grassow on BC
« Last post by Wanterkeelt on Yesterday at 08:50:03 AM »
The russian GS Productions will release this one on 4CD this month, so I'm waiting :) really excited.

http://www.discogs.com/Mathias-Grassow-AeroAreA/release/7000785


"AeroAreA" --> https://mathiasgrassow.bandcamp.com/album/2015-aeroarea
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by ffcal on Yesterday at 07:48:16 AM »
Julio,

I used to record on an TEAC open reel in 80s through a small mixer and it was a real pain to use, though that alone gave me a focus when I got around to recording.  These days, I use a Mackie mixer with additional outboard effects before going into my laptop to record.  It adds an element of noise, I know, but I find it more interesting to use options from both worlds and combine them.

Forrest
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by Julio Di Benedetto on Yesterday at 07:13:00 AM »
Hi Pete, yes an alternative recording setup or alternative approach as you suggest with your iPad.

On a side line modular synthesis is really booming now because I believe musicians are coming to a world without presets and patch memory, its raw, alive, difficult at first and so hands and usually without ones & zeros involved.....this is sort what Im thinking about regard a recording environment.

As a teenage drummer in the late 70's early 80's I was around recording studios with the band I was in making demo tracks with mixing consoles and multi track tape machines but when I started recording music around 2000 the daw was well established so I have missed that era.  Perhaps I actually missed nothing and am better off now and just dont realize it.....I have heard recording industry people say how they cant believe how they did it back in the day compared to now, but these are professionals with clients, money and expensive studio rates etc. 

Im finding Listening to the music without seeing it is quiet a revelation and changing the way one works can often open up all sorts of possibilities.

 
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by petekelly on Yesterday at 06:38:18 AM »
Julio,

Are you talking primarily about an alternative recording set-up ?. If not, my experience is that I'm finally getting around to using the iPad more (I know it's a mini-computer) being able to do stuff away from my studio room has been quite a revelation
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by Julio Di Benedetto on Yesterday at 05:56:26 AM »
Hi Forrest & Phobos,

There is no doubt the daw offers such recording flexibly un matched, probably in the history of recorded music.

Always wanted to go to tape Forrest but more in a live type environment.....multiple instruments through a mixing board, Fx etc, stereo out to 2 track tape....no conversion.  Ultimately it would have to go in the box for mastering etc.

I have used Logic for years and more recently Live, very comfortable with logic. 

That Tascam unit does look impressive Phobos.

From studio pictures I have seen It seems to me Steve Roach works with the mixing desk as key to his process and the daw more of a digital multitrack.  His sound is controlled from the desk not the daw.  Others here may have more knowledge about his setup but if its so it appeals to me as a way to work. Old school in approach but still with the flexibility of the daw as needed.

Obviously a daw today is as much an instrument as a way of tracking music so to preclude it for some would be pointless though some soft instruments can be standalone.

My approach for all my recording has been to treat the daw as a digital multi track, rarely get into midi and mostly use hardware instruments and my production methods are straight forward with no bells and whistles.

Hope to hear from others with their ideas and perspectives.

 
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by phobos on Yesterday at 04:37:17 AM »
Here are a couple of items as an alternative. I quite like the idea of the Zoom, as it can be used alone or with a computer, so kind of gives you the option of linking with the computer if you really need to. The Tascam also looks an impressive beast, and these are just a small selection of what is out there.
http://www.dawsons.co.uk/blog/digital-recording-breaking-free-daw

Personally I don't think I would leave a computer and DAW behind, I would just incorporate more hardware instruments into my set up.

Julio, do you think that maybe its the DAW you are using that isn't quite right for you?
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« Last post by ffcal on June 30, 2015, 09:20:47 PM »
Hi Julio,

Maybe you weren't thinking in these terms, but what about going analog with an open reel recorder or maybe a standalone hardware recorder?  I only resorted to using a laptop to record after my hardware recorder literally burnt out.  Since then, I've gotten used to the flexibility plug-ins offer for processing, so it would be difficult for me to go back.

Forrest
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Everything and Nothing / Re: RIP Chris Squire
« Last post by hdibrell on June 30, 2015, 09:13:33 PM »
Yes, he was a giant!
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