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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Last post by DeepR on May 27, 2016, 02:26:36 PM »
Ashra - New Age of the Earth CD


Great album, my favorites are Deep Distance and Nightdust. The last one is a stunning piece.
Inventions for Electric Guitar and E2-E4 are also fantastic.
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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Last post by stargazer on May 27, 2016, 02:20:34 PM »
Klaus Wiese made wonderful music for instance "Towers of the Night part I" that I absolutely love.
There is such a mystery and inner calm within the music. The music is so lively and played with such a sensitivity.

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Read my message again, and stop ignoring what I said or you will be permanently banned from this forum.
 
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Ekstasis, you have been told about this before. Last time this came up, I told you I was receiving threats of action against me as owner of the Hypnos Forum because of the accusations you were making.

This forum is not going to be used to insinuate or suggest theft or other serious wrongdoing without offering evidence. If you are going to make the accusations in public, you cannot offer the evidence only in private.


If you have evidence to offer, then offer it openly, otherwise stop making vague accusations. Simply saying "Anyone could figure out the truth if they open their eyes" is not good enough.


I am not saying you are right or wrong about the accusation. I'm not saying I believe you or don't believe you. I'm saying as clearly as possible that you cannot use this forum to make serious accusations without offering proof that is available to anyone who has seen the accusations you've made.

This is the problem since this is a word against word dilemma, no written contracts or anything has been made, but all I can offer is really I can send you in the right direction if people ask in PM I can give you a link to a website which include contact information and you can take part of this story and then choose which side you stand on, looking at it in a historic perspective and also to consider all other aspects it is easy to realize which is true or not

Mike you said it yourself you have got legal threats , this is the exact same problem this source are not allowed to talk about this in public, the source have told me this is appricate my help getting the word out but he cant join in and take part of the discussion publicity on in private in mail, this is exactly what I did some time ago the information is on his website this was written in the time where he got attacked by tomas on a personal and aristic level he did never offer his side in public like tomas did but he did offer to give his story in private via email.
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 I'm going to reserve judgement on this as I don't know the full story as to why you keep bringing this up.

The full story is the orginal DAT tapes that Klaus did leave behind was given to ONE person he did trust, . . . . . .

That's not the full story I am interested in, you've already "shared" that with us. I want to know why you keep bringing it up? If this "other" person is not you, then why do you care so much?  Also, I find it a bit two-faced that you find it horrible that someone is doing this collaboration with a person that is gone. But you find it perfectly fine to download other peoples music and not pay them for it. Both really are about control over the music. It seems to me that you care for the artist more when they are dead then when they are alive.  ;D

The news is that Tomas is starting to release collaboration  albums with a dead person it is like pissing on a persons grave if you ask me.
It is not even a real collaboration if the other person have not even heard it, it is fake collaboration and people who visit have website and are not aware willl have no idea about it, I want get the truth out and warn people do not buy these fake collaborations albums.

release original untoched tapes is ong with but taking his material using it for his own releases only to make the album more sellable because of a big name is on the cd and their is klaus wiese collectors who want to buy every cd cause they want to have a complete collection.

I care more about Klaus now when he is dead for the simple reason since he is dead  he cannot defend himself,  I am a long time fan of klaus Wiese, I have heard him first time in 2006, this is my motivation to honor him and make sure not people is making profits on releasing fake collaboration albums like these.
It is about respect thomas shows no respect when releasing collaboration albums with a dead, there is not even one word in the cd description about that he is dead or RIP or anything,  it looks like a "normal" release or is klaus still alive maybe ?  as I said not every one knows he is dead not all fans are hardcore like that to read about the full story, and even if he only sell 100 copies is still earn about 2400 USD for just one release and considering the nature of ambient music where it is easy to release many albums per month it is kind of clear that he earn a lot of money for this especially considering he take all money himself, that is another good thing to release collab albums with a dead person you do not need split the income, it is a brilliant idea I admit tomas.

THe source that I do not name have already named on his website, that he will not be part of any public debate but that every one is welcome to send him and email and talk to him privately, this is exactly what I did, and considering the history and the the source and klaus has been working for over 20 years it is really easy to take side and choose which person, anyone who is interested I can send a PM with a link which include where to ask to source yourself.
Now When Klaus is dead I think it is important that some one who taking his side and stand up for him
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Ekstasis, you have been told about this before. Last time this came up, I told you I was receiving threats of action against me as owner of the Hypnos Forum because of the accusations you were making.

This forum is not going to be used to insinuate or suggest theft or other serious wrongdoing without offering evidence. If you are going to make the accusations in public, you cannot offer the evidence only in private.


If you have evidence to offer, then offer it openly, otherwise stop making vague accusations. Simply saying "Anyone could figure out the truth if they open their eyes" is not good enough.


I am not saying you are right or wrong about the accusation. I'm not saying I believe you or don't believe you. I'm saying as clearly as possible that you cannot use this forum to make serious accusations without offering proof that is available to anyone who has seen the accusations you've made.
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Hi John,  Yes, I agree.  Shouldn't topics like this be frozen or even deleted?

Maybe you should send the source in your PM an email to ask to verify this story and you could then you can build your own judgement

No thanks.  You dug your own hole.  I have no desire to join you down there.

If you have no interest in digging the truth then you should maybe reserve your judgement and opinion just saying.

It's clear to me that if this anonymous person exists, you don't have the authority to speak on his/her behalf.  Don't take us all for fools.
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It seems to me that you care for the artist more when they are dead then when they are alive.

Yep.  Though for all we know, this may give him too much credit.  What if he's downloading those releases illegally, too?  ;)
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 I'm going to reserve judgement on this as I don't know the full story as to why you keep bringing this up.

The full story is the orginal DAT tapes that Klaus did leave behind was given to ONE person he did trust, . . . . . .

That's not the full story I am interested in, you've already "shared" that with us. I want to know why you keep bringing it up? If this "other" person is not you, then why do you care so much?  Also, I find it a bit two-faced that you find it horrible that someone is doing this collaboration with a person that is gone. But you find it perfectly fine to download other peoples music and not pay them for it. Both really are about control over the music. It seems to me that you care for the artist more when they are dead then when they are alive.  ;D
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Hi John,  Yes, I agree.  Shouldn't topics like this be frozen or even deleted?

Maybe you should send the source in your PM an email to ask to verify this story and you could then you can build your own judgement

No thanks.  You dug your own hole.  I have no desire to join you down there.

If you have no interest in digging the truth then you should maybe reserve your judgement and opinion just saying.
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