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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« Last post by Tardigrade on December 05, 2016, 03:04:55 PM »

You spoke about standarts like minimum volume -2db and maximum range K20, and music can loose weightlessness by standarts.
Technically it is about losing dynamic range plus loosing headroom.

I'm not saying these are standards that should be standard for the genre.  I am saying they are approximate standards I used for this project.  If I lost some weightlessness on some tracks, I haven't missed it at all. 

The dynamic range I specified is fairly wide compared with today's average.   Quite a few tracks I reprocessed had less dynamic range than my approximate standard, so they were expanded a bit.  This too can be contrary to the artist's intention, but I think the artist should be satisfied with the fact I paid money for a product that I carefully modified to my preference.   
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Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: what Tv series should I see ?
« Last post by Ekstasis on December 05, 2016, 10:57:07 AM »
Finished booth seasons of dark matter, all I can say I did enjoy it.
I think Melissa/number two was really good..
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« Last post by Ekstasis on December 05, 2016, 09:35:44 AM »
While waiting for his reply regarding the sound chain he use.  It is crystal clear to me if you have a need to remaster and eq your whole collection then you need better equipment  to listen to the music it might give that sparkle you miss in the sound.

Or instead http://www.aphex.com/products/excited :)
Then you do not need to thru the the process to remaster at least.

Otherwise I agree with Julio.
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« Last post by Julio Di Benedetto on December 05, 2016, 06:17:11 AM »
As this processing of your music collection to obtain a pleasing uniform level for you makes your listening experience that much better then thats brilliant yet I would have a few concerns.

The idea of sameness would be one.....I want to listening to music at a level the musician / group performed at when recorded.  Mastering can certainly increase overall levels but thats not its main purpose.

The idea of increasing the levels on say Brian Eno's Discrete Music for example goes against the principle that the music was created by.....this is more philosophical then technical.

Ambient music generally is quiet music that often welcomes the environment it is listened in and that includes open backed headphones, obviously not closed headphones. By increase the listening levels of the music one should also turn up the sound of the environment.

Any additional conversion of the audio degrades the quality.  Digital audio has no issues being copied but software will change the source material and not necessarily for the better.  Analog does have and its best to convert it to digital one time after the recording is finished.  Going for analog to digital and back again multiple times deteriorates the signal.

Now much of the above are mute points in the world of iTunes and Mp3 or maybe not.....Mp3 by its very nature truncates the audio file eliminating important data to get it down to a convenient package size for easy distribution.  This suggest that even more attention to the recording and its various paths it takes to get to say a cd or even vinyl are paramount if something of its original quality is still available after its Mp3 strangulation....can you tell Im not a fan?  ;)

Im really old school when it comes to this and it goes back to my first high end Quad (UK manufacturer) audio system we had when I was kid.... the system was designed to get the most out of the recording as it was recorded.  In other words it relied on the fact that the music was recorded and mastered to the highest standard. I still adhere to this philosophy today.



 
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« Last post by stargazer on December 04, 2016, 11:46:04 PM »

So, you might loose the original intent and content of music. Especially the weightlessness of music can be lost by maximizing, compressing and EQing.

I'm not sure what you mean by losing weightlessness.  Maybe you mean losing dynamic range?  I try to maintain a reasonably wide dynamic range for the style.  If the original has too much dynamic range for my ears, then it will get compressed a little, but it won't get squashed to death.  Not even close.

You spoke about standarts like minimum volume -2db and maximum range K20, and music can loose weightlessness by standarts.
Technically it is about losing dynamic range plus loosing headroom.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Tech Talk with Jaja
« Last post by Castleview on December 04, 2016, 09:19:27 PM »
I love ValhallaRoom. One of my favorite reverbs.

Really nice setup.
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Listening: Podcasts, Mixes, and Music Sample Clips / Ambient 019
« Last post by Ekstasis on December 04, 2016, 06:35:25 PM »
Another one from 2009 from my ambient vault.  First part sound like steve roach - light fantastic kind of, and the second part reminds me little bit of oophoi - forgoten riturals or atleast that was the influences for this recording to make something along these lines.

All are done in real time and all sounds trigged with my midi keyboard. I can't honestly remember what reverb I was using for thins one, it could had been Aether (it could benefit a lot from a better high quality reverb)

http://kiwi6.com/file/xzj4160afd

Again I am saving up to acquire a new sound interface and midi keyboard which I had to sold off (have only been able to play music thru my smartphone in the last 6 months)  so I can record music again year 2017 that is my goal I feel inspired to do it now again.
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Everything and Nothing / Re: What did you buy for black Friday?
« Last post by hdibrell on December 04, 2016, 02:25:16 PM »
I stayed home and watched old movies all day with my girlfriend, does that count?   :D
I basically did the same. No shopping for me.
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« Last post by Ekstasis on December 04, 2016, 02:15:44 PM »
I listen to music on a few different systems ranging from slightly better than average consumer stereo equipment such as a Yamaha amp and JBL speakers to a fancy hifi system I paid too much for.  I listen through Sennheisser headphones occasionally.  Sometimes I listen with 5.1 surround.  Ambient on a decent surround system can be very enjoyable.     

The music is processed and edited using Wavelab and mostly Waves plug ins.  The results sound good to me on multiple systems.  I try not to over do it and try to maintain a reasonably wide dynamic range. 

The main reason I did this was because I prefer random shuffle play most of the time and grew tired of the wide variance from track to track.

I'm not sure exactly which chain you want to know and doubt it will make the statement you quoted sound less odd.

I would not mind if you be more specific mention certain brands like yamaha or Sennheisser  says nothing to me.
 
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« Last post by Tardigrade on December 04, 2016, 02:06:31 PM »

So, you might loose the original intent and content of music. Especially the weightlessness of music can be lost by maximizing, compressing and EQing.

I'm not sure what you mean by losing weightlessness.  Maybe you mean losing dynamic range?  I try to maintain a reasonably wide dynamic range for the style.  If the original has too much dynamic range for my ears, then it will get compressed a little, but it won't get squashed to death.  Not even close. 
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