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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CD vs. CDR
« Last post by Scott M2 on May 19, 2015, 10:54:43 AM »
Hi, gang. Quick question from a novice's point of view:

I went to listen to my copy of Lost at Dunn's Lake (Johnson/Philips) last night, but it wouldn't read on my stereo. I loaded the CDr into my computer, and no luck there either.

Is there a solution you use when and old CDr appears to be giving up the ghost? I really like this album and was pining for it a bit last night. I'm sad to realize that the music might be lost to me forever.

I searched around the forum and found a great thread, but it is now locked:
http://www.hypnos.com/smf/index.php?topic=1352.60

I had the same problem with Dunn's Lake. I think the problem is actually rooted in the sticky labels James was using at that time more than the CDrs themselves - though I'd bet the CDrs are not of Taiyo Yuden quality either. Those were the early days of CDr releases and there was still a lot to learn the hard way. So far I have only had problems develop with CDrs with sticky labels.
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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CD vs. CDR
« Last post by APK on May 19, 2015, 09:29:28 AM »
Don't think there is much you can do if you have cleaned the disk and it won't read anymore.
I think the solution is to contact either artist and see if they will send you a replacement disk or a good digital version.

A number of labels were not always using the best blank CDr media for their releases.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CD vs. CDR
« Last post by chris23 on May 19, 2015, 09:05:49 AM »
Hi, gang. Quick question from a novice's point of view:

I went to listen to my copy of Lost at Dunn's Lake (Johnson/Philips) last night, but it wouldn't read on my stereo. I loaded the CDr into my computer, and no luck there either.

Is there a solution you use when and old CDr appears to be giving up the ghost? I really like this album and was pining for it a bit last night. I'm sad to realize that the music might be lost to me forever.

I searched around the forum and found a great thread, but it is now locked:
http://www.hypnos.com/smf/index.php?topic=1352.60


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Everything and Nothing / Re: Relaxed Machinery Ning Community is moving to Ello
« Last post by jkn on May 19, 2015, 06:29:21 AM »
Ning hasn't updated their development plan in 2 years.  The last post was from 2013 I think talking about a new round of bug updates.  The original founders left long ago.  New owners had interest - but then the new, new owners seem to have none.  Rumor is it's totally dead and just keeping the lights on because there are still quite a few communities on there.   We're still paying $240 per year there...  all images with a .png extension were turned to a lot darker on ning - I was locked out of editing the admin of the site for a week - then it worked - then locked out another week - then locked out 2 weeks.  Sometimes sections disappeared - all the photographs just disappeared for like 3 weeks and then poof they were back.

Ning site goes dead end of July.  I need to start my "how to join ello and not be scared of the blank white wall you first see" posts.  :-)   I'm kind of dragging my feet a bit only because I know the iOS app is almost out.  And that will help a lot of people.  (I'm on a Droid so not me - but it works fine on my droid.)

Google - yes I explained to Ello that going to Google was out because so many people in our community do not like it for various reasons including the privacy issues.   

Here's my post to Ello about why I chose Ello over other places for moving rM to:  https://ello.co/johnkochnorthrup/post/SJ9HQbju6Xmqx8hpaBDC3g

For me - Ello has all the right attitude and intentions and everyone seems to be making their best efforts to make Ello happen.  It's not all there yet - it doesn't all work (read my post you'll see I'm unhappy bandcamp isn't embeddable yet... and private messages...  and groups!)  But I have faith it's all coming.

I also thought about doing something like Hypnos and just being a forum.  But I really loved the aspects of Ning with all of it's media so easy to use... post video's and images and songs right into posts (ello does it a heck of a lot easier than ning ever did).   

Anyway - I love it here - won't leave.  I love it other places - won't leave.  Ello Ambient / Relaxed Machinery is my new "home base" though.

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Thanks so much for your insightful thoughts Pete....you have a good sense of the music and its sonic persuasions. Feed back from those that listen to the music is so important, for any artist. Im grateful for your support and taking the time for a deeper listening.

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It usually starts with me, by picking a sound or sounds that I like, and then I just play something, anything. I use Cubase Artist as my DAW and this has a really neat feature called retrospective record, which captures what you are playing even if you haven't hit the record button. ( Not sure if any other DAWS have this feature?) I have my keyboards set to different midi channels, so if I play something that I like at some point, it is there. Click on retrospective record and it appears on a track. I can then get rid of the rubbish and keep the bit or bits I like and then separate out the different midi channels onto separate tracks. I can then build upon what I have got.  I had tried in the past to set off with pre conceived ideas of how the piece should be, but it never seemed to work out that way in the end. So now I just take it as it comes, and see what happens.
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Firstly, I should say this is a subtle work which requires repeated listenings.

I'd say there is an element of metallic-type sounds, but overall the album isn't unbalanced tonally - there's a lot more going on in the spectrum as well as the sounds in the upper frequency range. Perhaps only on Track 6 is the balance veered a tad far towards the high-end (for my particular preferences) where the piano is featured alongside a static like sound (which has an almost has a breathy quality) which is a tad 'forward'. Interestingly, the album starts with a distinctly HF free intro.

There are subtle compositional and structural elements which prevail throughout the album and it is spatially interesting too - again in a subtle manner. Sometimes I find 'wild pannings' to be a bit distracting unless there is something to offset these shifts against - more 'centred' sounds.

I think an artist should stick to their guns, so to speak. If they decide to create a work with a particular sound signature, thats their choice. Like every other creative decision it won't be the same for everyone, that's what happens when any artist releases a work - you open yourself for reactions, positive and negative.
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Seren: I certainly stand in awe of those so comfortable with their instrument that they can play beautiful music and make it look so damn easy. That your friend could play something with non-standard tuning after just a strum is impressive.

Julio: Painting and drawing came to mind when I originally started this topic. I realize I never touched on it, but my topic mentions it. You answered a question I had about an artist's painting process. In your case, you pre-plan for art, but not for music. Very curious indeed.

In my limited experience in writing (words), I've found it best to pre-plan plotlines before setting forth. However, a number of times a writing session resulted in the storyline taking a different turn as I was writing it, similar to when I make music. I suppose spur-of-the-moment changes aren't that surprising though.

As you mentioned, creating patches from scratch can be demanding. That's a whole other world for me. Designing sounds obviously plays a huge role in music, and I know some artists are all about sound design. If it wasn't for them, we'd not have patches to work with. For me, it pulls away from the creation of music, and I end up spending my time fiddling with knobs and envelopes instead. ;) To keep the momentum, I prefer to take existing patches and alter them to my needs. I've only dipped my toe in the world of building patches from scratch, and I can appreciate the work and time involved.

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In one sense I have no intent other than the this urge to write music...what stirs this could be many things. 

I never had music in my head that I attempted to transcribe out into real music, into the real world which is odd as when I mostly painted some 25 years ago I used to do lots of sketches, color renderings etc, so that when it came to stretch a canvas I had a clear idea of where I was going. Perhaps this is something to do with visualization whereas the abstract nature of music in that it does not exist unless played and has no tangible form once complete precludes me form seeing it, or pre-hearing it.

Listening to other music can get the juices flowing but often that can be a technical thing, musical structure, musical sounds and how they are used, mixing preferences etc.  Sitting down, or standing and firing up a keyboard usually can inspire a new creation.  Recycling patches already used in other projects often leads to new sonic adventures.  Starting with a blank patch also but can be much more demanding. 

If a musical idea comes it is when I play the piano.....synths inspire galactic travel for me and are not usually the first place for melodic construction if that indeed is where I think I could go.  The piano is also very honest and shows flaws in structure easily whereas a single note on a synth can keep me occupied for hours in wonder at its evolving never ending nature.

I think I do treat the daw as a canvas and the musical instruments I use as the color palette, nothing unusual there but there is still no intent, well yes Im intending to write music and the outcome is unknown and for me that is the excitement.....a journey along which I grow, learn and hopefully become.....not so much better but maybe closer to something...?

Good topic Mike!

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Altus: I've not had musical training, but occasionally meet musicians who know their instruments well enough that they are not bound by the rules, or who , when an unusual situation presents, can just immediately adapt.
   Many years ago I'd been staying with someone and there was a guitar, he was happy for me to fiddle with it - so I changed the tunings till I had a sound I liked.
   When he came home he picked it up, strummed once, paused for about 3 seconds and then proceeded to play a proper tune on it....
   That's a level of skill I admire in the same way I admire anyone who is really good at their craft - whatever it might be.
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