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So Tomas...a week has passed......what was the purpose of this?  Did it answer anything for you?
Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« Last post by Paul Vnuk (Ma Ja Le) on August 17, 2014, 04:22:54 PM »
Cool idea Dave!

If I was to put all of the Genesis albums in order for me it would be:

1. Selling England By The Pound
2. Duke
3 Trick Of The Tail
4. Wind & Wuthering
5. Foxtrot
6. Abacab
7. And Then There Were Three
8. Trespass
9. Nursery Crime
10. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
11. Genesis
12. We Can't Dance
13. Invisible Touch
14. Calling All Stations
15. From Genesis To Revelation

I do like the live albums too and would rank them

1. Seconds Out
2. 3-Sides Live
3. Live
4. Live Over Europe 2007
5. Live The Way We Walk

For Gabriel

1. Gabriel 3 (Melt)
2. Gabriel 4 (Security)
3. So
4. US
5. UP
6. Scratch My Back
7. New Blood
8. Gabriel 1 (Car)
9. Gabriel 2 (Scratch)

And I should mention that Gabriel's Passion is one of my top 2 favorite albums of all time!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« Last post by petekelly on August 17, 2014, 01:29:03 PM »
'Spectral Mornings' is indeed excellent, am currently re-visiting it and it still sounds good, even now.
Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« Last post by Dave Michuda on August 17, 2014, 12:48:17 PM »
I saw Gabriel on the Security tour as well and it remains one of my favorite shows of all time.  I remember the show starting with the band walking down the aisles, from the back of the theater, all playing various percussion instruments as they eventually made it to the stage playing Rhythm of the Heat.  For the song Lay Your Hands On Me, Gabriel walked on the backs of the theater seats singing "lay your hands on me" while the fans were reaching out to touch him.  It was like Jesus wading through a fevered crowd.

Fav PG albums in order(not including his excellent soundtracks):
1. Security
2. So
3. 3
4. 1&2
5. Up
6. Us
7. Scratch My Back
8. New Blood

I have many of the other Genesis solo outings and they are interesting and varied in quality.  I still have a copy of Tony Banks - A Curious Feeling and will listen occasionally for nostalgia sake but it's really not very good.  My favorite Mike Rutherford solo effort is Smallcreep's Day.  It's not great but has some very good moments, with better guitar playing than normal from Rutherford & keys from former bandmate Anthony Phillips.  Speaking of Phillips, I've got several of his albums which I still like, with my fav being 1984.  It's got drum machines & tons of big synths, what more could I want back in 1981?!

Obviously the Phil Collins solo stuff is on a different planet entirely.  I did like the first 3 albums back in the day but I can barely listen to any of his stuff now.  Except for Face Value, which is a pretty darn good pop album.  I remember buying it the day it was released, putting it on the turntable and being absolutely blown away by In The Air Tonight.  Thanks to The Hangover & the rest of Collins career, the song has become almost a parody of itself but at the time it was pretty awesome.  Face Value also has a nice cover of the Beatles Tomorrow Never Knows.

Top spot for Genesis solo material goes to two Steve Hackett recordings, Voyage of the Acolyte and Spectral Mornings.  A lot of Hackett's albums are hit & miss, each usually has a couple good cuts.  But these two early albums are excellent.

Before I finish this too-long post, here are my favorite Genesis albums in order:

1. The Lamb
2. Foxtrot
3. Trick Of The Tail
4. Seconds Out
5. Trespass
6. Wind & Wuthering
7. Selling England By The Pound
8. Nursery Cryme
9. Live
10. And Then There Were Three

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Last post by drone on on August 17, 2014, 12:37:13 PM »
Just received these in the mail:

Mick Chillage--Saudade
Miss Garden--In the Silence of the Subconscious
Lee Norris/Porya Hatami--The Longing Daylight

All on the Carpe Sonum label, started recently by the guy who runs Ear Rational and was the US distributor for Fax records...
Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« Last post by drone on on August 17, 2014, 12:26:48 PM »
I think Peter was at his peak with Security.  The live album Plays Live from that tour is amazing and so powerful.  I agree that So was a step down and too commercial.  I saw that tour and he was great, as he still played many of the older solo material.  It's puzzling what happened to his songwriting and creativity over the subsequent years.  His last solo album was weak, and these recent releases of cover songs and symphonic performances are just awful...

I listened to Trick of the Tail yesterday and boy what a mediocre album.  The first track is good but the rest is meandering and totally forgettable.  IMO, the next one Wind and Wuthering was so much better. 

I've been enjoying all the interviews posted on YouTube from the reissue CD/DVD sets.
Thanks.....clouds are really interesting.  Look down to change a lens and by the time my head is up what I saw is gone, that fast.  It could  evolve into something better but usually not. Clouds seem so still.  Hence the.....Chasing Clouds.
Nice galleries there Julio.

Particularly in the clouds. Big skies are a great photographic subject.
Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« Last post by thirdsystem on August 17, 2014, 06:40:38 AM »
There are some good moments on Calling All Stations right enough. The lad that sings on that album came from a fairly iconic, Scottish Heavy Rock band called Stiltskin. I liked them and couldn't believe he had joined one of my favourite bands Genesis. Great voice.

Re Gabriel 4. I saw him on that tour also. Edinburgh '83. Amazing stage performance by the man. Shock the monkey.......swinging from monkey bars on the stage before falling into the crowd. Have to say there are some stunning songs on So ......Red Rain, In Your Eyes, Mercy Street.

Favourite of all PG albums for me has to be 3...Intruder, No Self Control, I Don't Remember , And Through The Wire, Games Without Frontiers, Not One Of Us, Lead A Normal Life, Biko. Fantastic musicians including Stick Bass man Levin and one of my favourite guitarists David Rhodes. Iconic album has to be in my top 20.

Gabriel , for me, is the best vocalist there has ever been.
Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Last post by thirdsystem on August 17, 2014, 06:24:55 AM »
I listened to "The Delicate Forever" last night intensely , without distraction and fairly loud.

First off I think this is a great album and I will listen frequently. In respect of the bass issue being discussed I agree with others who have said there is no issue here, it is part of the music. I reckon we must be discussing track 4 and possibly5 in this regard. This is where the bass really makes an appearance  8). A slow but intense drone that adds a dark overtone to the mid and high wandering, meandering synths. This track is haunting, sometimes discordant, unsettling in parts, I think this it really is excellent and creates a very strange atmosphere indeed.

Another thing I like about this album is the way the five tracks blend and subtly change into there own personas almost seamlessly but sometimes hint at the previous or other tracks.

I will enjoy this work of art frequently I suspect.
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