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I received a response from Sam Rosenthal.  He stated "to keep the album in print" they made 100 cdrs.  He stated they "haven't had any complaints about playability.". See, he knows these can have play issues.  So why release them at all.  I feel it's unethical (maybe too strong a word) to do this without a buyer beware heads up.  You buy a CD on projekt and you assume you're getting a CD.  Period!  I told him I wasn't happy about it and requested he send me a spare CD version disc if he has one.

Can you imagine Steve Roach putting his name on a CDR?  It just would never happen.  Case closed.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.  I'll post the follow-up soon...
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The so called PRO cd-r media is marketing trick and nothing more. In fact, they are the same crap cd-rs but overpriced.  The only cd-rs that can be called PRO are some of Taiyo Yuden, RICOH and Mitsubishi, but they are expensive and not needed for home made burning. Buy any cheap Taiyo Yuden cd-rs and they will fully satisfy  all your needs.

I wonder what is BLER (Block Error rate) on that Tundra "pro"cd-r...
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« Last post by LNerell on October 14, 2014, 11:33:31 PM »
Very nice setup Julio. I too have a KK Audio desk, except mine is this gigantic thing with lots of room for rack gear.  :o I'll try to get some pictures up. Too bad KK Audio went out of business, they made great studio furniture.

How do you like the Solaris compared to the A6 you had, or your Matrix 12? Right now I too have a Matrix 12, except it's not mine, I'm taking it in for repair for a friend.
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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Did Projekt ever press its releases on CDR's???
« Last post by ffcal on October 14, 2014, 11:07:23 PM »
Erik W°llo's "Tundra" EP, released 3 months ago on Projekt, is on pro CDr. Ordered directly from Projekt, I was quite surprised when it arrived  :(, because I didn't notice anywhere infos about CDr. It was advertised as a CD, I asked Sam about this via private FB message, but didn't get any answer. Later, CD was removed from advertisements, kept EP only... If it's released as a pro CDr, it should be definitely advertised this way.

Richard

I agree with you, Richard.  I think customers would expect to pay less for CDR and may prefer not to buy them at all because they are more finicky and can be damaged easily.  I had something similar happen to me when I bought an obscure pop album from an independent label that I thought was a manufactured CD.  The CDR tracked poorly and I actually had to rerip and burn the CDR so that it would play properly.   I'm surprised and disappointed to hear this.  Hope that this is the exception.

If you bought a "recent" pressing, drone on, I'm sorry to hear that, too.

Forrest
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Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Time Cage by Aairria
« Last post by Aairria on October 14, 2014, 11:03:31 PM »


I'd like to present the first release in line of my unreleased works series.

Composed back in 2004 and initially published through Jamendo service, only to be taken down shortly after.
This soundwork followed my Urbanisation album in terms of theme but ventured into drone territory in which I am more widely known.

Please give it a listen or grab a copy - HERE.
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Erik W°llo's "Tundra" EP, released 3 months ago on Projekt, is on pro CDr. Ordered directly from Projekt, I was quite surprised when it arrived  :(, because I didn't notice anywhere infos about CDr. It was advertised as a CD, I asked Sam about this via private FB message, but didn't get any answer. Later, CD was removed from advertisements, kept EP only... If it's released as a pro CDr, it should be definitely advertised this way.

Richard
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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Did Projekt ever press its releases on CDR's???
« Last post by ffcal on October 14, 2014, 06:43:05 PM »
In the years I've been on Projekt, I've never known Sam to release CDRs.  My guess is that you have a boot, or maybe you were hoodwinked by someone who created a CDR version from a legitimate copy.

Forrest
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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Last post by chris23 on October 14, 2014, 06:23:07 PM »
Enjoying the Quiet Friends compilation--the Steve Roach tribute

https://freefloatingmusic.bandcamp.com/album/quiet-friends-a-30th-anniversary-tribute-to-steve-roachs-structures-from-silence

Also got blissed out listening to Landscape in Obscurity (Vidna Obmana) on repeat earlier today.
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How do you tell the difference? I have a copy of this and just pulled it out. It looks professional. I guess I always assumed that anything that had on-disc printing was a non-CDR. I feel naive suddenly.
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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Did Projekt ever press its releases on CDR's???
« Last post by drone on on October 14, 2014, 05:53:56 PM »
I just received Terrace of Memories (Vidna Obmana/Rosenthal) today, bought on eBay, which was "New and sealed.". The disc is a CDR! (albeit a pro type disc with on-disc printing).  Anyone know if the label ever released cdr before?  Is this a bootleg??  I've emailed Sam R., waiting for a reply...
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