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Thanks Forrest...I will listen to those.  I did see those titles on Tim Story's website.

APK....not too long ago you posted an amazing performance by Rodelius on youtube here.  It was at an very unusual gallery type setting with someone on and Arp and Rodelius play keys and iPad.  Ive searched the forum but cant find it.  Anything ever come of it to your knowledge?  It was really a good piece.
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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: $35 for new Tim Story/Rodelius CD???!!!
« Last post by ffcal on October 25, 2014, 09:19:52 AM »
Julio,

Inland Is a really good one.  If you're curious about Moebius, the other half of Cluster, his collab with Tim Story and Jon Leidecker (Snowghost Pieces) is also very good.

BTW, there is also a limited Story/Roedelius Cd from the late 90s called "The Persistence of Memory" that's a pretty good one--a collage/mix of studio and live recordings.
 
Forrest
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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: $35 for new Tim Story/Rodelius CD???!!!
« Last post by APK on October 25, 2014, 07:20:39 AM »
That is expensive, and a large run for a limited edition (these days). And you know there are another 250 because they would have got 1,000. Kinda odd.
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[...] I realized that the EQ was all the time bypassed...
Been there, done that.  ;D
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Here we go again...?
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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Last post by chris23 on October 24, 2014, 05:47:24 PM »
Robert Rich-Perpetual.This is an 8 hour recording on Blu-Ray or download of his most recent sleep concert.A companion piece to Somnium.I have been a long time listener of the latter so this will be a must buy.


Robert Rich - Perpetual - A Somnium Continuum
I've been "listening" to this for two nights, and two working days now. This release draws on some of the material Robert had prepared for a sleep concert in late 2013. The soundscapes are more on the electronic end of the electronic to organic spectrum, especially compared to Somnium.

Perpetual is incredible, to be honest. Not only is it expansive (8 hours of material), but each "phase" of it feels perfect. (Parts of Somnium felt inessential to me when listened to actively rather than passively.) My only minor gripe with this is that, like Somnium, the volume fades substantially over time, which is a sensible artistic choice given the intent of the music. But, at least in my bedroom, if I don't start the album at relatively high levels, I can't really hear anything 2 hours in.

Easily a contender for one of the most impressive albums of the year.

Buy/Sample: http://robertrich.com/discography/album/?album_id=53

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Leonard Cohen reading Sound Of SIlence
« Last post by APK on October 24, 2014, 12:02:52 PM »

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGEWQRL2sJk
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Quote from: Ekstasis

I think it is funny say  classical music has more complex audio information then in ambient music.
Ambient can be as complex as audibly possible.

I think you completely misunderstood something…Iīm not talking about "complex" at all!

"When it come to classical music with a lot (!) of dynamics there is a reason for this higher bit/sample rate rate, but when when it comes to Ambient I donīt know any music in this genre using the full dynamic making it worth at all to for the additional headroom nor a higher sampling rate."

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Last post by drone on on October 24, 2014, 08:58:04 AM »
In case you weren't aware, today is NATIONAL VIDNA OBMANA DAY.  In celebration at work today:  Crossing the trail, twilight of perception, subterranean collective, surreal sanctuary, contemporary nocturne.  That's a lot of fujaras!

OBMANA for president!!
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24 bit is definitely no placebo effect.. It is always frustrating to have to down sample to 16 bit.. When you  hear such drastic difference.. But it does also matter what music..  But especially with ambient music I hear a difference..  If I buy an digital flac album I would easily choose the 24 bit if there was a choice.

Many blind tests regarding 16 vs 24 bit have proved that peopled canīt hear a difference. In any case, when it comes to CD anything has to go down to 16 bit anyway. To hear a difference especially (!) in ambient music is a huge myth for me. When it come to classical music with a lot (!) of dynamics there is a reason for this higher bit/sample rate rate, but when when it comes to Ambient I donīt know any music in this genre using the full dynamic making it worth at all to for the additional headroom nor a higher sampling rate.

Are people really be able to hear a difference between 192kbit and 320kbit mp3?   ;D

But OK, itīs usual that those believers feel better if they can say they feel have the tools or special gear (the price for the additional investment in those cases needs an explanation too) or rendering options. Iīm pretty sure, if I would offer 2 unnamed files for a blind testing concerning this issue, those people would avoid to be part of that test.

Two unnamed files created to prove your point or two unnamed files to show there is a difference.  ?
Tests can be designed with different goals. 
I myself I hear a difference and I know a lot of other people to do,  you need sensitive equipment and ears and know what you are looking for.  In heavy high energy distortion  guitar I think the 16 bit have harsher edges to me. 

I think it is funny say  classical music has more complex audio information then in ambient music.
Ambient can be as complex as audibly possible. Classical music in general consider very lofi in comparison to modern music.  Adding max amounts of transients is usually the best way to find differences in 24 bit or 16 bit  or different sample rates.  On all my recordings in my signal chain I always use audio processors to maximize transients,  especially with ambient there is nothing worse then ambient where all transients are drown into reverb tails,  the transients bring out all details and making complex audio harmonics.  Yeah so the amount  of transient information is probably one thing that matter,  without the complex audio information it might be possible there is no difference in sonic experience in resolution or sample rates
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