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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iOS - useful for an ambient musician ?
« Last post by mgriffin on May 14, 2015, 08:14:27 AM »
I can honestly say that I have issued far more warnings to people I feel friendly about, and edited/deleted far more messages written by those people, than forum members I have disliked.


Just because you're only aware of the warnings you have received yourself does not mean other people have not received warnings, including people who might surprise you.


The difference is that if I feel somebody is a good contributor to the forum, and a reasonable person, I have found almost 100% of the time they understand the warning or the edit/deletion of their post, and they have tried to improve and play by the rules. I think this is simply about being a "good citizen" and trying to respect the rest of the group, and realizing that we all make a mistake sometimes.


When a person is constantly arguing that they are being persecuted, or treated unfairly, or repeatedly fighting against the moderators or implying we're being unfair, that indicates to me a person who does not care about respecting a community and is entirely about their own interests and preferences.


A community is larger than any single member, and any single member who thinks the entire community should change to fit their preferences is certain to end up disappointed.
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Great to see you've released this one Julio.

Also well done for such a measured response to Tomas's comment - of which I'm not being critical, I should say.

Quite an interesting idea - under exposed / over exposed ambient music. Pursuing the photography line, how would we alter the exposure compensation, I wonder ? :)
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iOS - useful for an ambient musician ?
« Last post by petekelly on May 14, 2015, 07:01:16 AM »
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What I mean is, people are getting away with personal attacks using mindgames, sarcasm, irony, but which can have the same provoked effect on the person it is directed at.  So far I have not seen any one getting banned for this reason. Only if you use direct language.


Unless you have any concrete examples of these supposed 'behaviours' to share here, it looks as if you're being overly sensitive / paranoid.
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iOS - useful for an ambient musician ?
« Last post by Ekstasis on May 14, 2015, 06:32:36 AM »
Mike (and the moderators) have adopted a very liberal approach here to banning. There have been very few bans and those were undertaken were done so for very good reasons. It takes a lot to get banned here.

On a related note, When posts are disrespectful in tone or downright rude and / or peppered with swearing (which isn't very clever), it becomes easy not to show any interest in them.
I understand there can be problems with language regarding people for whom English isn't their mother tongue, but bleating about using subtle wordplay and the like to make 'subliminal attacks' is frankly rubbish. It's very rare when someone has a go at someone without being provoked.

This forum has been around for years before I joined (about 9 years ago), I think it has real value and I'd like to see it carrying on into the future. For god's sake, there aren't many places where we can talk about the things that we do, without boring the life out of our wives/partners/friends/family/pets etc !

What I mean is, people are getting away with personal attacks using mindgames, sarcasm, irony, but which can have the same provoked effect on the person it is directed at.  So far I have not seen any one getting banned for this reason. Only if you use direct language.

I still think it is hard for the moderators to do there job and being objective when they are friends with too many..If they receive complaints they will not do anything because they are friends etc etc. Ideally a moderator should not be friend with every one but also have a certain personality  who are allergic to people mean to each other and stamping on each other.
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This looks good. Can't wait to listen to it in full.

Thanks Harry....Enjoy!
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iOS - useful for an ambient musician ?
« Last post by petekelly on May 14, 2015, 01:27:12 AM »
Mike (and the moderators) have adopted a very liberal approach here to banning. There have been very few bans and those were undertaken were done so for very good reasons. It takes a lot to get banned here.

On a related note, When posts are disrespectful in tone or downright rude and / or peppered with swearing (which isn't very clever), it becomes easy not to show any interest in them.
I understand there can be problems with language regarding people for whom English isn't their mother tongue, but bleating about using subtle wordplay and the like to make 'subliminal attacks' is frankly rubbish. It's very rare when someone has a go at someone without being provoked.

This forum has been around for years before I joined (about 9 years ago), I think it has real value and I'd like to see it carrying on into the future. For god's sake, there aren't many places where we can talk about the things that we do, without boring the life out of our wives/partners/friends/family/pets etc !
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This looks good. Can't wait to listen to it in full.
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Oddly, this album has been a bit of a grower for me.  In places it seems like a refinement or extension of Trances and Drones.  When I listened to the DVD through my Mackie HR824s, the sounds were too bright, even with the monitors on the floor.  Oddly enough, I found myself preferring the lower res MP3 version through phones, which, I know, sounds like audio heresy.  I boosted the high end around 9 or 11K a bit to compensate for the flatness of the sounds, which were considerably less bright than the DVD.  I also rarely have had time to listen to an 8-hour release straight through, so I preferred having the 80 minute MP3 segments, which I burned onto CDRs with the EQ  tweaked via a plugin.  A very unconventional and lo-fi way to listen to this release, but it works for me.

There are a lot of interesting things going on in this release, and I like it quite a bit now, but I can see why folks may have been disappointed that it was not Somnium 2.

Forrest
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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Last post by Ekstasis on May 13, 2015, 04:10:24 PM »
Loren Nerell - Taksu
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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iOS - useful for an ambient musician ?
« Last post by Ekstasis on May 13, 2015, 03:16:28 PM »
"People are banned too easily?"


I think you'd have a hard time supporting that. This forum has been around for over 15 years and we've only banned a few people, ever, and those bans occurred after numerous warnings, and after the members continued to ignore the warnings and do the same things they had been warned not to do.

Good to know the number is not higher at least.. I just wish every one could be friends. Personal attack or cyber bullying and subliminal humiliation is something we do not need here. I know any other music forum I am on they do not tolerate subliminal personal attack/humiliation either, as long if the person who it is directed at report the post because he felt uncomfortable they usually delete the post. I wish it was more like this here too... so we all know what the threshold are and that you cant get away with the subliminal stuff.. which is just as nasty..
If we know the threshold is very high and none tolerance I think it would be a nicer climate in general on the forum.  In this case people should be better to report when they feel offended. so the post can be deleted (does not need to result in a warning if its not too harsh)
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