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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5280 on: January 17, 2017, 08:54:03 AM »

Is that actualy what the payment rate is then 1000 plays for $10? If so that is poor. I do recall a Projekt email where Sam said it was 247 plays for one dollar also. Mmmhh not great.

Yeah, not great at all. From reading Sam's blog articles on the whole streaming thing, his stance seems to have softened on it a little, but I'm glad he is putting the reality of these services out there. I've always felt that it's appropriate to support artists I like to the extent I can. That means buying albums either in lossless digital format or physical copies. Streaming is great for previews and checking out new artists but that's all it will be for me.

Re: Ekstatis' comments above, the norm for the current generation is simply to not buy any music at all and stream everything. Sadly, I don't see this changing any time soon. A lot of people under 30 are so cheap they won't even buy a CD for $5, much less anything that costs more than that.

Not that Neil Young isn't already rich, but there was a recent thread on another forum where people were complaining that his albums weren't on a streaming service, then when they were later added, everyone was happy because they "could finally listen to them". Never mind that most of his back catalog is available for between $5-8 a pop on CD brand new. I've seen similar threads complaining about the back catalogs of other artists and labels too (Kill Rocks Stars was one). With this line of thinking, you can extrapolate and see why it's tougher than ever for indie artists to simply break even on the music they make. 

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5281 on: January 17, 2017, 09:22:55 AM »
First Law - A Future So Bright

https://loki-found.bandcamp.com/album/a-future-so-bright

I'd somehow missed this artist over the years. From what I gather they started off doing fairly standard dark ambient and gradually became more experimental or added things to the formula over time. This is the most recent album and it's very good IMHO. It has a strong psychedelic feel to it which I enjoy. LOKI just added this and the rest of the catalog to Bandcamp, digital downloads are priced at 5 Euros for a limited time.

Bad Sector - Cephus

https://bad-sector.bandcamp.com/album/from-cephus-2015

I bought this CD when it first came out, but hadn't really listened to it much. For some reason I felt it was weaker than past Bad Sector releases when I initially played it. Listening again now and I'm liking it a lot more.

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5282 on: January 17, 2017, 10:19:07 AM »
Biosphere :: Departed Glories -- A curious album. Often with great beauty and subtlety.

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5283 on: January 17, 2017, 10:36:52 AM »
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Murkok :: Dizziness -- grainy, noisy, pads/drones. Would be excellent sleep music.

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5284 on: January 17, 2017, 10:53:22 AM »

Is that actualy what the payment rate is then 1000 plays for $10? If so that is poor. I do recall a Projekt email where Sam said it was 247 plays for one dollar also. Mmmhh not great.


Spotify's payout is not the same for every artist and it has been decreasing.  The artist's payout can be closer to 0.001 per stream if they are signed to a medium or larger label.  Thom B probably gets about 0.005 per stream, so that would be closer to 2000 plays for $10.

Mist costs $5 as a download minus 30% to a major merchant.   So someone would need to stream 700 Mist songs (or the entire album 175 times) to produce the same revenue as an Amazon download.  Streaming the entire album 5x per year for 35 years would pay the same as a download.  This is assuming Spotify's payout rate doesn't change which is a doubtful assumption.
 

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5285 on: January 17, 2017, 04:32:40 PM »
As a young person, I can tell the difference between loseless files and let's say 256kbps or 320 kbps MP3s even before I started making music but honestly, the difference isn't enough for me to convert all my music library to loseless files. Now if you're listening to MP3s at 192 kbps and lower, you're asking for trouble.
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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5286 on: January 21, 2017, 05:44:59 PM »
Simon Wilkinson - Cryo Sleep Dreams



This is a sampler of excerpts from the album.  Very good ambient space music.  The whole album can be previewed at Bandcamp. 



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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5287 on: January 21, 2017, 06:37:51 PM »
Simon Wilkinson - Cryo Sleep Dreams


This has come up in my BC feed a few times. On the wishlist but haven't gotten around to it yet.

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« Reply #5288 on: January 21, 2017, 07:15:15 PM »

This has come up in my BC feed a few times. On the wishlist but haven't gotten around to it yet.

When I first previewed it, I thought it was just ok.  A brief skip around preview didn't produce anything I hadn't heard before.  I bought it anyway.  Several full resolution listens later, it earned my admiration.  Every song is a keeper. 





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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5289 on: January 27, 2017, 07:47:42 AM »
Alexander Scriabin - The Poem of Ecstasy
Pretty much my favorite piece of music.

The finale always knocks me off my socks. When I heard it live my life was complete, for a moment. :)
As one of the youtube commenters put it: "The vastness of space, the flight of photons, billions of billions of galaxies: its all there in one final explosion of sound."


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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5290 on: January 27, 2017, 02:41:55 PM »
Listening through Michael Stearn 's AMBIcon concert, very smooth sounds.

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5291 on: January 29, 2017, 08:11:54 AM »
Some recent listens/highlights:

The Circular Ruins - Pathways

Very impressive epic double album, need to play it again soon. Lots of variety and little details.

https://dataobscura.bandcamp.com/album/pathways

Caelum Bliss - s/t CD

90s female fronted goth rock band from Detroit. I played my old CD recently but there is a reissue on BC if anyone is interested in checking them out.

https://fossildungeon.bandcamp.com/album/1993-1999

Jeff Greinke - Places of Motility CD

I used to think this was one of his weaker releases from the 80s, and maybe I still do, but I really enjoyed it when I played it again recently. Very dark, lots of weird percussive loops on certain tracks.

Veil of Secrecy - Self Titled CD

Solo project of Steven Hall from Yen Pox. For some reason people seem to be unaware that this exists. It's a very good album, though it seems to end abruptly. Love the organic feel of these tracks which seems to be something lost in this type of music over the years.

https://veilofsecrecy.bandcamp.com/album/veil-of-secrecy-2

Legion - False Dawn 20th Anniversary 2xCD

Haven't played this in awhile, forgot how good this is.

https://zoharum.bandcamp.com/album/false-dawn-20th-anniversary-expanded-edition

Ashley Bellouin - Ballads LP

Nice album of minimal drones from a young composer. Fans of things like Terry Riley and Ellen Fullman might appreciate this.

https://drawingroomrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ballads






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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5292 on: January 29, 2017, 11:29:34 AM »
Some recent listens/highlights:

The Circular Ruins - Pathways

Very impressive epic double album, need to play it again soon. Lots of variety and little details.

https://dataobscura.bandcamp.com/album/pathways

Very glad to hear it, cvac. Thanks !
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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5293 on: January 30, 2017, 10:24:29 AM »
Some recent listens/highlights:

The Circular Ruins - Pathways

Very impressive epic double album, need to play it again soon. Lots of variety and little details.

https://dataobscura.bandcamp.com/album/pathways


Yeah, can't agree more!!! "Pathways" 2CD is a true masterwork, and deep listening sessions are still ahead, congrats, Anthony!!! And kudos to Dennis/Databloem too!!!  ;)

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« Reply #5294 on: January 30, 2017, 04:47:28 PM »
Sleep Research Facility - Deep Frieze (full abum)



This is one of the better Arctic Ambient albums out there.  Similar to Thomas Köner from the  Nuuk era.  A lot of the music in this sub genre tends to get a little carried away with the resonance knob.  This album is glacial and grey, but remains smooth.     

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« Reply #5295 on: January 30, 2017, 05:14:18 PM »

Legion - False Dawn 20th Anniversary 2xCD

Haven't played this in awhile, forgot how good this is.

https://zoharum.bandcamp.com/album/false-dawn-20th-anniversary-expanded-edition


I have Legion - Die Datenschleuder on CD.  The jacket is printed on vellum.  I'm guessing he didn't sell many.  Still sounds good 20 years later.  Post industrial apocalyptic dark ambient with death of robots theme.



https://lagowski.bandcamp.com/album/die-datenschleuder

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5296 on: January 30, 2017, 05:27:45 PM »
Bernard Parmegiani - De Natura Sonorum (1975)



Avant Garde electronic masterpiece.  Better than average sound quality for a YouTube. 

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« Reply #5297 on: January 30, 2017, 06:34:49 PM »
A Positive Life - Pleidean Communication

http://waveformrecords.com/twoad/pleidean_communication.mp3

The link goes straight to an embedded MP3 player.  Good quality stream at 128k because it isn't hosted at Soundcloud.   :P

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« Reply #5298 on: January 31, 2017, 08:07:08 AM »
Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow LP , wonderful .



Steve Joliffe - Journeys Out Of the Body
Mick Chillage - Exulansis , almost 4 hours of absolutely epic ambient mastery . Just checking this out for the second time on Bandcamp . Urgent , if not immediate , acquisition required.

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Re: Currently listening, part 1
« Reply #5299 on: January 31, 2017, 10:00:27 AM »
Some recent listens/highlights:

The Circular Ruins - Pathways

Very impressive epic double album, need to play it again soon. Lots of variety and little details.

https://dataobscura.bandcamp.com/album/pathways

Yeah, can't agree more!!! "Pathways" 2CD is a true masterwork, and deep listening sessions are still ahead, congrats, Anthony!!! And kudos to Dennis/Databloem too!!!  ;)

Richard

Many thanks, Richard !!!   :)
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