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The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« on: December 18, 2007, 09:57:54 AM »
This makes me happy and it should make you happy too, unless you are a terrible person who didn't love the Lord of the Rings films. 

It looked like it wasn't going to happen...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071218/ap_en_ot/film_the_hobbit

Peter Jackson to produce `The Hobbit'

Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have reached agreement to make J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned prequel to the blockbuster trilogy "The Lord of the Rings."

Jackson, who directed the "Rings" trilogy, will serve as executive producer for "The Hobbit." A director for the prequel films has yet to be named.

Relations between Jackson and New Line had soured after "Rings," despite a collective worldwide box office gross of nearly $3 billion an enormous success. The two sides nevertheless were able to reconcile, with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios (MGM) splitting "The Hobbit" 50/50, spokemen for both studios said Tuesday.

"I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line," Jackson said in a statement. "We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth."

Two "Hobbit" films are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, similar to how the three "Lord of the Rings" films were made. Production is set to begin in 2009 with a released planned for 2010, with the sequel scheduled for a 2011 release.

New Line Cinema is owned by Time Warner. Sony and Comcast are among the owners of MGM.
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2007, 11:48:01 AM »
More info from Aintitcoolnews.com

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35108
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2007, 11:56:48 AM »
You deserve a karma point for this post.  :)    Wonderful this project is finally back on track!

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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2007, 11:57:01 AM »
This IS good news, but why TWO films? WTF? The Hobbit is simply not that long of a story. Just shoot it as a three-hour film (Jackson has proven he can make a big hit of that duration, obviously). I seriously don't know what in the book will need that much time. If they were able to make each book in the trilogy be just three hours or so, surely The Hobbit can be made as a three hour film.

Also, my worry is that, well, to be honest, The Hobbit is so much more a kid's book. It's so much less dark and sinister than LOTR is. For example, will they leave in all those dwarf songs? (argh!)

Maybe it's because I remember the awful Rankin-Bass animated version (shudder)


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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2007, 11:58:45 AM »
Careful, Bill - I'm tempted to smite thee for even bringing that cartoon up!   

(I'm kidding, of course.)

Answering your question on the two movies - the ain't it cool link says this:

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One will be an adaptaion of J.R.R. Tolkien's THE HOBBIT. The second project is believed to be a bridge between THE HOBBIT and THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy - culled from the titanic amount of periphery/ancillary/notated material found in Tolkien's works. Such material can already be seen in the exiting films.

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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2007, 11:59:57 AM »
In the second article, they refer to the fact that Peter Jackson wanted to plan 2 films, one of The Hobbit itself, and the second as sort of bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.  There's definitely a lot of stuff they could tell in between, and for that matter, there's endless potential for LOTR related films (Silmarillian, Children of Hurin, all sorts of "extended universe" stuff, etc.) if the Tolkien estate is inclined to let them happen.
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2007, 12:02:59 PM »
GOD, that horrible old thing, (the animated movie). Not only did it suck, Golem gave me nightmares for months after seeing it....(blechhh).
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2007, 12:20:27 PM »
Thanks for setting me straight, folks. I appreciate it. Also glad I'm not the only one who hated that adaptation. Of course, Bakshi's LOTR wasn't much better...it was sooooooo obvious at what point Bakshi ran out of money. In the early stages of the film, the rotoscoped animation is tres cool, but by the end, the "orcs" are just guys in rags and wearing gorilla masks  ??? with the eyes rotoscoped red in color. Yeah, they look a lot like orcs.

Sam looks like an apoplectic doofus



Still, even that was nowhere near as bad as what Disney did to Lloyd Alexander's The Black Cauldron


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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2007, 12:39:43 PM »
Well I'm going to drink mead and have second breakfast in celebration of this news!

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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 01:01:25 PM »
Well I'm going to drink mead and have second breakfast in celebration of this news!

Don't eat too much for second breakfast... you need to save some room for elevenses.
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2007, 01:29:37 PM »
I never miss elevenses! 

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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 01:51:53 PM »


Still, even that was nowhere near as bad as what Disney did to Lloyd Alexander's The Black Cauldron






That's just painful to even LOOK at...(yeesh)...
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2007, 04:56:11 PM »
A few more details on the upcoming Hobbit film(s) produced by Peter Jackson, swiped from Wikipedia:


On December 18, 2007, it was announced that Jackson would be executive producer of The Hobbit and its sequel: Jackson is busy with The Lovely Bones and Tintin. Back-to-back shooting on these films will begin in 2009, and each film will be released in December 2010 and December 2011 respectively. NL and MGM will co-finance the film, and the latter studio will distribute the films outside North America NL's first ever such deal with another major studio. Shooting will again take place in New Zealand, and Weta Workshop and Weta Digital are expected to offer their services once more.[72] The set for Bag End and the miniatures for Rivendell were kept after production of the trilogy.[70]

It was MGM who expressed interest in another prequel film, set between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.[73] Jackson concurred, stating "one of the drawbacks of The Hobbit is [that] it's relatively lightweight compared to LOTR... There...[are] a lot of sections in which a character like Gandalf disappears for a while. From memory I mean, I haven't read it for a while now but I think he references going off to meet with the White Council, who are actually characters like Galadriel and Saruman and people that we see in Lord of the Rings. He mysteriously vanishes for a while and then comes back, but we don't really know what goes on."[70]

Sam Raimi had expressed interest in directing The Hobbit under Jackson,[67] while Guillermo del Toro also said "it would be a privilege" to direct, having met Jackson.[74] MGM CEO Harry Sloan said, "Neither us nor New Line would want to hire a director that Peter was not completely comfortable with." He also mentioned Jackson and Fran Walsh would co-operate on the scripts, and that Jackson may direct the second prequel as he would have completed Tintin.[75] The actors Orlando Bloom, Viggo Mortensen and Cate Blanchett had said they would reprise their roles as Legolas, Aragorn and Galadriel respectively with Jackson,[76][77][78] while Ian McKellen said he would like to play Gandalf: Jackson had told him, "You must play Gandalf whether I direct or not."[79] Composer Howard Shore had also said he has thought of some themes for the film.[80]
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 12:28:14 PM »
Feedback Mike - The yellow text doesn't work against the default forum format background.

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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2007, 12:31:44 PM »
Feedback Mike - The yellow text doesn't work against the default forum format background.

Thanks Scott, you're right!  I just switched it to bold so it should be legible no matter what theme people are using.
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2008, 11:35:55 AM »
More news about the upcoming Hobbit film(s), from the Hollywood Reporter.  Briefly, they're saying Peter Jackson will produce, WETA will do special effects, and Guillermo Del Toro will direct.  For those unfamiliar with the last name, Del Toro directed Pan's Labyrinth (which should be enough for you all by itself) as well as The Devil's Backbone, and Hellboy.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i331d7d05b8008476b2fae087024a2b8e

The plan is to release the first film in 2010 and the second in 2011, after filming them back-to-back like with the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

I believe strongly in Guillermo Del Toro's geek credibility and think this is every bit as good as if Jackson were directing himself.
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Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2008, 05:04:48 PM »
It seems to be mostly official now.  From The Guardian UK online:

Guillermo del Toro has officially signed up to direct The Hobbit, according to reports leaking out from a film premiere in France. The Pan's Labyrinth creator will oversee a double-bill of films based on JRR Tolkien's fantasy adventure, which paved the way for The Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson, director of the Oscar-winning Rings trilogy, will serve as executive producer.

The announcement was made at last night's French premiere of The Orphanage, a Spanish horror film that Del Toro helped produce. Introducing the film-maker, the host told the audience: "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit." Del Toro had previously been reported to be in negotiations to take charge of the project.
 
The Hobbit charts the adventures of the hobbit Bilbo Baggins, who joins a band of dwarves on their mission to liberate their treasure from a dragon's lair. Along the way, Baggins takes possession of a magical ring of invisibility. The ring is later revealed to be the chief weapon of the dark lord Sauron. The author devised this twist after completing the original tale, laying the ground for his famous Lord of the Rings trilogy of novels.

The Hobbit films will be backed by New Line with a reported budget of $150m (78m). Production begins next year, with the pictures following in 2010 and 2011.
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