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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2008, 09:11:05 AM »
I'm surprised most of you 'mericans only want to move around the USA ?????

I don't think that's so surprising.  First off, most people are reluctant to move too far from their extended family.  I might think it was cool to move to Finland or New Zealand or Singapore but it would mean I'd barely ever see my relatives again. 

Plus, Americans are culturally insular, and it's been drummed into our heads from childhood that the only place to be "free" and have "liberty" is the USA.   I would say the great majority of Americans have never traveled outside North America.  I actually think Canada is a great place, one where I would consider living some day, but most Americans think of Canada as their funny and sorta-communist little cousin upstairs, and they think of Mexico as just a nice place to visit for some sol y margaritas y cervezas, but stay clear of the policias.  In other words, most Americans would never consider living in Canada or Mexico, and they've never been anywhere else, so how would they know?

Of the Americans I know who have been to Europe or Asia, many have expressed that they've considered living elsewhere, especially those who didn't just visit the overrun-by-tourists madhouses of Rome or Paris.
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2008, 02:34:05 PM »
Me and the wife keep bantering the idea of moving to Austrailia. (If McCain wins.)
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2008, 02:46:59 PM »
'Americans are culturally insular, and it's been drummed into our heads from childhood that the only place to be "free" and have "liberty" is the USA.'

That is very ... well, so very programmed. And of course, false.


"most Americans think of Canada as their funny and sorta-communist little cousin upstairs"

That's the first time I'd heard this one. That Canada is the attic of America, fine, but commie !!!!  How odd.
Americans vary quite a bit (ok, a lot. Its a big place.), but a fair bit of Canada is south of a lot of northern USA. In that region I have trouble telling them apart.


Perhaps the American public ought to get out more and skip all the silly rhetoric  :(


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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2008, 05:24:11 PM »
Don't get me wrong, I was mostly making lighthearted fun of American attitudes toward Canada.

Gosh, any place where people happily (well, mostly happily) pay high taxes, where they allow more than two political parties to exist (at least one of 'em with the the word "socialism" in it), and where they have health care for every citizen, even the poor folks, that sorta stuff scares most Americans!
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2008, 09:35:10 PM »
Gosh, any place where people happily (well, mostly happily) pay high taxes, where they allow more than two political parties to exist (at least one of 'em with the the word "socialism" in it), and where they have health care for every citizen, even the poor folks, that sorta stuff scares most Americans!

Canadians who pay high taxes have bad accountants. We own guns and seem to enjoy greater freedoms of speech when it really matters. And no federal mainsteam party has the word "socialism" in it's name! And the healthcare concept works!

That said, I think I'd like to live in Ellensburg, Washington!

PS you need Ralph Nader in the debates. We just added the Greens after public outcry forced the TV networks to capitulate.


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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2008, 12:45:59 AM »

Seren, I went to Uni in Swansea just over 20 years ago. Living on the Gower must be nice.


Bebbo, the Gower is nice, but I live on the valleys side of Swansea, which is a different sort of nice - not the sea and lowlands, but more hills and rivers - a short trip to the Sleeping Giant and Dan Yr Ogof Caves (not that I've been to the caves).

What did you study in swansea?

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2008, 07:22:00 AM »
PS you need Ralph Nader in the debates. We just added the Greens after public outcry forced the TV networks to capitulate.

Amen to that.  It's not necessarily the people who don't want more voices; it's the 2 parties who don't want more voices.  And we wonder why only 50% of the people turn out to vote...

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2008, 08:38:43 AM »

Seren, I went to Uni in Swansea just over 20 years ago. Living on the Gower must be nice.


Bebbo, the Gower is nice, but I live on the valleys side of Swansea, which is a different sort of nice - not the sea and lowlands, but more hills and rivers - a short trip to the Sleeping Giant and Dan Yr Ogof Caves (not that I've been to the caves).

What did you study in swansea?

I studied Computer Science. Was there between 1985 and 1988.

Btw, is where you live anywhere near Filendre? We stayed there for a long weekend a few years back when I wanted to show the missus around the Gower.

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2008, 08:55:48 AM »
Btw, is where you live anywhere near Filendre? We stayed there for a long weekend a few years back when I wanted to show the missus around the Gower.


Not far, about 5 miles I think.

There are some beautiful places up around north wales too....

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2008, 07:39:03 AM »
Personally, I loathe how long winter is...I don't mind two months of cold and snow, but a normal winter starts in about a little before Thanksgiving and lasts until St. Pats day at a mininum, sometimes until April Fool's Day.

Like they say in Maine, Bill--it's nine months of winter and three months of bad sledding.

Since I'm apparently the sole New Englander here, I have to say that I can't imagine living anywhere else. Mind you, I haven't traveled all that extensively but everything I love is here. If I want the ocean, it's an hour east. If I want mountains, they're 2 hours north. If I want deep woods, they're everywhere--the Berkshires, White Mountains, Green Mountains, the deep green spaces of Maine...

But I have to say, the view from Mike's backyard looks mighty inviting.  ;D
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2008, 07:56:22 AM »
The thing I most miss since leaving England and moving to Ontario, Canada, is the sea.
Life is not right without being at or very near the sea.

I love it out on the New England coast. 
Haven't been to north of Boston or to Maine yet, but plan to check that stretch out.
I'd happily move to Rhode Island somewhere. Great place.
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2008, 09:35:26 AM »
Btw, is where you live anywhere near Filendre? We stayed there for a long weekend a few years back when I wanted to show the missus around the Gower.


Not far, about 5 miles I think.

There are some beautiful places up around north wales too....

Been to North Wales many times, and you're right, some good places there too. My favourite place up there is Portmeirion.

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2008, 10:50:13 AM »
Btw, is where you live anywhere near Filendre? We stayed there for a long weekend a few years back when I wanted to show the missus around the Gower.


Not far, about 5 miles I think.

There are some beautiful places up around north wales too....


Been to North Wales many times, and you're right, some good places there too. My favourite place up there is Portmeirion.

I lived in Barmouth and in the hills behind Barmouth for about 14 years...Never actually visited Port Meirion, mainly as I had pretty much free range of the local farmers lands and just loved walking out in all weathers - could see Cadear Idris from our cottage but again never actually walked it.

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2008, 10:51:49 AM »
Portmeiron (or is it Port Meiron?) is where The Prisoner was filmed, isn't it?
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2008, 12:52:54 PM »
Portmeiron (or is it Port Meiron?) is where The Prisoner was filmed, isn't it?

Not sure of the spellig, but the Prisoner was filmed there.

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2008, 09:25:17 AM »
It seems to be a universal dream, almost, to live different places at different times of the year.

As much as I love Portland it would be so wonderful if we could spend a few months each winter somewhere with different weather.  Not that Portland winters are terrible, just that in an ideal world, I'd love to escape the gray and rain that takes over between October and March, especially the worst part in the middle of those months.

I sometimes think that if everyone were wealthy and retired, then humanity would take a massive shift toward the equator during the colder times of the year, and migrate back at springtime like a bunch of birds.
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2008, 12:59:51 PM »
It seems to be a universal dream, almost, to live different places at different times of the year.

As much as I love Portland it would be so wonderful if we could spend a few months each winter somewhere with different weather.  Not that Portland winters are terrible, just that in an ideal world, I'd love to escape the gray and rain that takes over between October and March, especially the worst part in the middle of those months.

I sometimes think that if everyone were wealthy and retired, then humanity would take a massive shift toward the equator during the colder times of the year, and migrate back at springtime like a bunch of birds.

I think the early people's of all continents did just that

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2008, 10:44:52 AM »
It also seems to be nearly a universal dream to live close to the ocean, or failing that, overlooking a lake or river.
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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2008, 11:03:37 AM »
It also seems to be nearly a universal dream to live close to the ocean

Water is good...when it's not trying to sweep you away!

I'd like to live in Vancouver...after the current population gets over its real estate and food fixation and decides it cares about culture and support it.

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Re: Where would you rather live?
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2008, 02:54:55 AM »
Really interesting to take part of your hopes and wishes regarding your living conditions. Also interesting that many of you are content with living where you already are. The same goes for me: home is where I am -- in Helsinki, Finland.

If I needed to move, I could think of Stockholm, Sweden. Compared with Helsinki, Stockholm is refreshingly more multicultural. And it has a decent metro (or subway or whatever you call your rapid transit system; Helsinki has only one single metro line).

Even more interesting has been to see how many of you live outside town. Makes me wonder if ambient music lovers are also fond of peace and quiet as a living condition?

In effort to balance the rural domination and bring in an urban angle, here are a couple of views from Helsinki, Finland:

-- A view of city center seen from an arriving ferry (February):


-- And a veiw from the south side outside my house in the morning (January):