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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2009, 01:24:42 PM »
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I'm REALLY happy with Reaper (after using Vegas, Cubase, and Sonar).
Very solid, fast, un-bloated program that still has a ton of features.
Unless you need a notation view, it could be all you need.
Was of course only recently ported to mac, and may not be identical to the pc version.

I could not get into Logic (way back).

Sad to hear no Wavelab/SForge equivalent in the mac world. I long ago settled on
Wavelab out of those two. It is a mastering essential for me.
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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2009, 01:26:42 PM »
Phew !    :D

Now look what you started!  :P ;D
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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2009, 01:28:24 PM »
Yes. And I do take full responsibility  :)
In fact, I should probably ban myself for a few days.
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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2009, 01:50:29 PM »

The only thing I will warn you about is that there are no two track editors equal to either Sound Forge or Wavelab in the Mac world. I have tried Bias and I could not stand it. I actually know of a few high end mastering engineers who purchased PCs just to run these programs.


Actually their are quite a few two track editors and/or mastering programs such as:

Waveburner which comes free with Logic is pretty good CD burning program.

Waveeditor is the cheapest and is getting new features every day.
http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/waveeditor/techspecs.php

DSP Quattro is pretty inexpensive and is also getting more features.
http://www.i3net.it/Products/dspQuattro/Asp/Index_EN.asp?Language=EN

Peak Pro 6 which is getting better.
http://www.bias-inc.com/products/peakPro6/

PreMaster CD
http://www.sonicstudio.com/products/pmcd/pmcd01.html

Which is a cut down version of SoundBlade.
http://www.sonicstudio.com/products/sb/soundblade01.html

The last two being pro mastering apps so they are quite expensive.

I mainly use Peak 5 (haven't done the upgrade yet, maybe this summer) and Waveburner. I've been using Peak since 1.6 so I know it pretty well, before that it was Sound Designer and Masterlist CD. Both are long gone now.
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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2009, 01:59:48 PM »
I used to use Peak, while now I use DSP-Quattro for basic editing.  I don't do full-fledged mastering with Quattro, though.  I just use Sound Forge for that, as I have all my plugins dialed-in pretty well on that PC.

Audacity actually isn't bad for a small/cheap solution for 2-track editing.
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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2009, 02:03:43 PM »
Often it is the user itself that make Vista a nightmare it works flawlessly here..
You need a lot of tweaking to get the most out of it...

Funny how my "toy" "plastic looking thing" that I used to make parts of Terraform worked flawlessly out of the box without any tweaking needed. I guess I am a fool for "throwing my money away" at a machine that does the job and lets me get to work instead of spending hours hunting down bugs or new drivers for a flawed operating system that was rushed out too soon.  ;D
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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2009, 02:25:19 PM »
Yes. And I do take full responsibility  :)
In fact, I should probably ban myself for a few days.

 ;D

I don't have much to add to the PC-Mac wars, though I've drifted towards the PC, because it was required for my contract work.  I still use a PC that has Windows 98SE for old algorithmic programs, and it runs even old Windows 3.1 programs reasonably well.  Have avoided Vista like the plague.  I also use a Lenovo PC laptop for VSTi experimenting and have not experienced any problems with it.  I also have an ancient Apple Powerbook that I used to run an early version of MAX.

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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2009, 02:40:42 PM »
Loren brings up a good point. At a certain level time is seriously money. So if you are just starting out and have a ton of time on your hands and little cash, it is absolutely a smart decision to buy the most affordable computer you can and then "wrench it" yourself.

However, eventually if you do this for a living (as a label or studio or sound designer or full time professional musician) or even an overblown hobby which brings in cash (which really is a part time job VS hobby), the time that you spend is money out of your pocket. Even if it only takes you 1 - 3 days to tweak your OS and trouble shoot and install and upgrade drivers, Etc. Consider that to various people a day is equal to $100 - $400 that you are now loosing by going the DIY route.

For that reason alone a Mac or specialized PC is probably a better bet in terms of time spent and money earned. IE. It works right out of the box!

All this proves is that different folks here have different needs and make music or record for different reasons. These are computers, not politics or religion so the my way is the only way is kind of pointless and rude.

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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2009, 02:52:30 PM »
You make it sound like MAC is this totally problem-free universe...where no problems exist at all, everything just works like pure magic! :)
Well..I wish it was like that..but the reality is there is problems and bugs for MAC as well:)
And You also need to update drivers just like in Windows..so not much difference.

You need to tweak an MAC as well maybe not as much as Vista though.....and to tweak Vista if you know what you are doing does not take you more then one hour.

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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2009, 02:53:49 PM »
Often it is the user itself that make Vista a nightmare it works flawlessly here..
You need a lot of tweaking to get the most out of it...

Funny how my "toy" "plastic looking thing" that I used to make parts of Terraform worked flawlessly out of the box without any tweaking needed. I guess I am a fool for "throwing my money away" at a machine that does the job and lets me get to work instead of spending hours hunting down bugs or new drivers for a flawed operating system that was rushed out too soon.  ;D

Nice, I had no idea, I need to visit nearest toy store and buy one maybe j/k :)

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Re: iMac for music?
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2009, 04:44:15 PM »
Fantastic recommendation, everyone.  My iMac purchase is a week or two away.  I'll be salivating endlessly until I get to bring it home.

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