Started by APK, April 19, 2009, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Brian Bieniowski on April 21, 2009, 06:05:59 AMOver the years I've met a lot of big music fans who only download their music and never pay for any of it. The trouble, aside from the obvious piracy/copyright issues, is that we've moved into a society where most people really don't care about the effort it takes to produce a memorable product...
Quote from: APK on April 21, 2009, 04:10:25 PMThis is like starting the thread all over again.Its a shame, buying an album used to be about the music, but now it's apparently all about the packaging :-\
Quote from: judd stephens on April 22, 2009, 12:12:10 AMI'm wondering how many people who say "taking something from me that I did not freely give to you is stealing" also disapprove of the income tax? ;D Oh wait that's right... that tax money just goes back to help the poor people of society... right.
Quote from: Stellar Auditorium on April 21, 2009, 03:36:36 PMI believe art, thought, and intellectual property in general is something which is too much important to be treated like a simple commodity. Obtaining the essence of a work (the actual music of a cd, the text of an e-book) does not constitute theft according to my ethics, and that comes from someone that is a musician and a label owner at the same time (I have financed about 7 releases in total, some mine, some of other people). While all the arguments made in favour of the intellectual property holders are no doubt correct - one should not produce something without receiving back something, again) I believe the cultural benefits attainted by the "liberation" of art and information are way more important. I've been a part of the generation that grew up with music piracy (I'm 25 years old) and I just own a 10% percent of all the music I have ever listened; being totally honest with myself, I have to say that I could never have enough money in my life to attain the same amount of musical knowledge. And I own about 800 cds, Lps, and cassettes altogether... I have also produced a great part of my music with the help of pirated music software (I know talking about these things in a public forum is a taboo, but I feel it's very important for this conversation). I would never have made the music I've made or have the knowledge I have without internet and file sharing. And exactly the same happens with most people in my generation, who I noticed have became people with quite high knowledge, character and artistic thought because of this situation.
Quote from: Wayne Higgins on April 22, 2009, 07:02:51 AMThe idea that there is already enough ambient, rap, books, art, in the world, you might as well put a gun to our heads and put us in the work camps to dig ditches until we die. I have never read more bullshit in one statement in my life. Sorry if I come off as strongly opinionated on that one, but hopefully, there will NEVER be enough art in the world, let alone too much.
QuoteNot that you SHOULDN'T be able to create music, etc.—that's not something I'm suggesting. But I am interested in thinking about the effects of endless choice and endless variety on beings who are not necessarily psychologically equipped to "handle" or process either. Is having 30 different styles of jeans to choose from in a store "healthy" or "necessary" to be a happy human? It may be an uncomfortable topic, but it's one to consider. I believe there was a book written about this very topic recently—I'll try to find the title.