How much your work is worth is up to the consumer to decide, so it is very relative, . It is not up to an label to decide a "price".
This is incredibly naive. The music is made by the artist, but the consumer is the only one who has control of it?
I agree that the consumer has the right to decide to buy or not buy music at a given price. The idea that the person who made the music has no say in the matter is ridiculous. It's just something you tell yourself so you'll feel better ignoring the rights of creative people whom you claim to respect.
Do you seriously believe that listeners will voluntarily send "donations" for music they've obtained illicitly? This happens very, very rarely. I know that Hypnos has never once received one of these "I downloaded your album via bittorrent and enjoyed it so much I wanted to send along the $6 I feel the recording is worth" donations.
I do believe that sometimes, a person downloads an album and really likes it enough to purchase the CD legitimately. But far, far more often, human nature takes over and they think, "well, I already have the recording, so why should I go pay for it?"
Alright, I will try to respond to all attacks one by one. I have had insomnia the past two days...so have had no energy or will to respond...
Considering all personal attacks etc it is quite clear the middle age is quite high on this forum, somewhat to my surprise...I have never been called a "Thief" of a person in my own generation, so we are without doubt getting towards and generation shift.
And as I said, a very few people make money on their music especially in these times, however, it is now cheaper then ever to create your own music, since the digital studio almost everyone can afford and home studio. People like me can't afford nothing, no cds at all almost, and no software. So in my case I would not be able to record any music at all if it wasn't for piracy.
And when we are talking about pirate copies and financial losses, it is very important to clearly we are talking about an POTENTIAL loss, first of all, do you have the money to buy it in the first place ? and is it even worth spending money on ?
We shall compare the good and bad sides and find the balance... What I am interested is the common good, and find the right balance...
The only thing that is talking against that the music and the whole information society would flow free, is the economic aspect.
To build such society we need to get out of this capitalistic market economy system.
I have tried to explain to you that to live and survive on making independent music is very hard and for 99,9% only a dream. Steve Roach is one of the very few people who create ambient music who sell so many cds albums and can survive on his music.
And if you are going to survive on your music you must have your own label like Steve Roach. You should know when you buy a CD, most of the money goes to the label, this "industry" and middle hand is something we can live without in the future, instead this small fraction of the profit should go directly to the artist in some way or another. I have not interest to support labels in the future, we need to get rid of this middle hand, since the money gets in the wrong pocket, the artist is the one who should get the most part of the profit. The norm that the artist earn on one cd is about 7-10% the rest the label takes. Most artist do never sell more then 1000 copies, can you explain to me, how an artist should survive on this income ? I do not get the equation to work... So even though you all talk so much about buying cds legally, it is still not a solution to the problem. Only the state and politics have the power to come with any kind of solution that would help musicians to survive on music.
In Sweden where I live, there is no problem to be a musician full time, since I live in an social democratic country, this basically does mean, you do not need to work if you do not want, at least if this group is a minority otherwise the whole system would of course collapse, We have about 15% unemployment in Sweden, but that is already changing ,since the young generation do not want to work at all, they all want to live in freedom.
And this argument and logic that and artist must make money on the music is just bullshit, if that was the case no independent music would exist.
Yes I am a dreamer, I guess I live ahead of my time, my philosophy is based on an utopia. The whole economy aspect is a quite complex and long discussion in itself, to survive on creating music in this capitalistic market economy will not be easy in the future that is for sure. But politicians could make it easier for musicians if they wanted, in Sweden where I live we did have an musician grant before in the 70s during the hippie era, the whole political climate is radically more different now... in theory it could work, but in an cynical capitalistic society it does not work since people of course would abuse it.
I would rather see something like PROUT http://www.prout.net/
in the future, http://www.thevenusproject.com/
have a lot of interesting ideas as well