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NI Komplete 6
« on: November 21, 2009, 10:29:37 AM »
Anyone bothering with updating their prior versions to this? Sweetwater has it for ~$150 today only. I am not going to bother with it for the time being. Till I get working or feel I need to update I'll look into it later. You get a new GR ? Pro, Absynth 5, Kontakt 4 for new instruments/updated instruments and Massive, FM8, Battery (doesn't say which but probably 3) and something else.

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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 05:03:27 PM »
I don't think I'll be purchasing this komplete upgrade.  I'm embarrassed to admit I haven't even installed Komplete 5 to my Mac yet.  I've been using an old version of Reaktor on my PC and haven't bothered to mess with Komplete yet.  I'll install it soon, but it would be hard to justify the upgrade if I'm just now getting around to putting this mountain of software onto my  main computer.

I'm usually not a believer in purchasing every "upgrade" version a software company offers. 
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 06:05:51 PM »
I've not upgraded.
There is so much in 5 that is usable. It is very deep in that regard.
Paying for a few extensions to what it does when you haven't got near the bottom of what's already there seems a waste of money.
I bought it because I know it is already a mature set of software that does what I want.

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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 06:07:30 PM »
Yeah, I'm thinking I might buy the Komplete 11 upgrade, in the year 2025!
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 11:04:14 PM »
Same here, I am fine with 5.

6 is kind of a let down in my opinion.

Other than the Korg Digital Collection, FM 8 and occasional reaktor use, I just cannot get very psyched about soft synths much anymore.
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 10:42:05 AM »
Does Komplete 6 no longer include Acoustik?  I saw a promo for Komplete 6 in a magazine recently and it made no mention of Acoustik.

I couldn't sleep last night so I decided to finally start installing Komplete 5.  Jeez, what a long process!  Still didn't quite finish swapping out all the DVDs by the time I had to leave this morning, so I didn't get to try it out yet.  Looking forward to the newest Reaktor, though, and trying Kontakt again (which I haven't tried out since version 1), as well as Massive and Acoustik.
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 02:42:22 PM »
I remember reading something about Acoustic ... might have been that its now included with Kontakt, rather than being a separate instrument. Same for the electric piano thing.   I like it as a separate instrument, I play it a lot, and its less fussy than Kontakt to setup.

By the way, Guitar Rig is stupidly good, and not just for guitars.
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 02:46:48 PM »
Makes sense to roll Acoustik into Kontakt -- make the piano sample instrument part of the main sample instrument.  I'm guessing Komplete came with over 100gb of samples.  Yikes!  I don't normally do much with pre-recorded samples but the Acoustik stuff is appealing, and I'm sure it's a step up from the piano card in my Yamaha S80.

Jeff Pearce was just telling me today how great Guitar Rig is, not just for "straight" emulation of amps and stompboxes.  I did some reading after our conversation and it makes Guitar Rig seem almost like a poor man's Eventide Harmonizer, in addition to all the amp/pedal emulation stuff.
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 10:07:53 PM »
Yes, Guitar Rig is great! This weekend, I spent quite a bit of time running Sony VL-70m controlled by my Akai EWI 4000s through Guitar Rig. It was great fun!!   Harry
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 06:21:34 AM »
Guitar Rig's looper is worth the price of admission.  8)
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 10:15:17 AM »
I finally had a chance to poke around in Komplete last night.  What an overwhelming mountain of deep, complex software!  Something like 11 applications, some of them fairly simple and straightforward but some pretty major... definitely enough to keep me occupied and learning for a long time.  The program I'm most familiar with is Reaktor and the newest version doesn't look or behave any differently from what I'm accustomed to (though there are a lot more preinstalled ensembles).  But Kontakt is a bit of a mystery, though of course I'm comfortable with the idea of a sampler.  I'll have to delve into the tutorials.

My first impression is that this is the first time I've come across an electronic "instrument" for which the preset sounds are so impressive.  You could do some really good-sounding work without ever programming anything from scratch, maybe just tweaking a preset here and there -- and I can't believe I'm saying that.

I'm sure I'll end up spending the most time with Reaktor, but who knows?  Komplete really is the best package for the money in the entire realm of virtual instruments.
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 10:41:16 AM »
"Komplete really is the best package for the money in the entire realm of virtual instruments."

Agreed, if you can get it at a reduced price it is by far the best bang for the buck out there.
Reaktor alone is loaded with many great things.  And the sound quality of everything is excellent.
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 11:33:37 AM »
Since I already have AbSynth 4 and FM8 I passed on the Komplete to avoid system and brain overload,
but did buy Reaktor 5 for $99 during last weekend's sale. (I also ordered the manual set for an extra $30
as I hate PDFs and it's cheaper than printing them yourself.) My plan is to tinker with prebuilt synths that
I like to make them even more to my liking (ie: making LFOs run even slower, adding a slew limiter to smooth
a rough waveform, etc...) and then attempt to built satisfying self-playing structures. We'll see how this pans out
over the next few years as I also bought Alchemy during their 1/2 price sale and I'll probably spend my
primary programming time exploring that in the near future.

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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 09:35:16 PM »
One other program which generates sounds (not sure but I need to find it) and was a standalone app was from computer music magazine. I need to find it as it had a really cool space something that did some awesome sounding droning. Only thing is it isn't a VSTi/VST instrument so I have to a) find it and b) see how I can record output from it. I forget it's name but it was I believe an NI program on a CM disc.

Kontakt, never delved deep into it and it does have some awesome stock sounds in there for sure, plus a HUGE library. I wish I got into using Battery x, I just load the samples up into Simpler when using Live mostly.

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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 02:31:49 PM »
I know this is a Komplete 6 topic and I'm using Komplete 5, but I figure people here are really talking about Komplete in general, right?

Anyway, I've had some time to delve into the instruments that are new to me, and I'm pretty well blown away by Acoustik and Absynth and FM8, and there's a lot of great preset kind of stuff in Kontakt too, though I haven't tried to do anything cool with that yet.  The pleasant surprise of the bundle is FM8, though I guess it shouldn't be a surprise since A) I've always liked FM synths, and B) I've hard lots of people, including Paul Vnuk in this same topic, refer to FM8 as one of the more useful instruments from NI.  But after just a few minutes of tweaking presets I'm already really inspired to do some real digging into FM8 and maybe even do a project entirely restricted to FM sound sources.
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Re: NI Komplete 6
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 06:14:02 PM »
FM8 has a very interesting arpeggiator too. I wish it could also transmit to other soft-synths.