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Re: Cans.....Whats on your head?
« Reply #80 on: May 21, 2015, 04:54:46 PM »
First of all thanks for the compliment on Seed Julio, and second I agree with Mike, great post!

I just upgraded my headphones to the new Audio Technicha ATH-M70x and all I can say is WOW! The clarity is stunning. The low end may seem shy to some, but its really more that it is not exaggerated like some headphones.

http://eu.audio-technica.com/en/products/product.asp?catID=5&subID=39&prodID=4715

Hi Paul....Yes "Seed" is a sonic gem not often seen in ambient circles, and naturally that amount of detail is seriously matched by phenomenal music performance and production.

Through headphones lets keep the production level of what we hear at its zenith
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« Reply #81 on: May 22, 2015, 01:10:16 AM »
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Through headphones lets keep the production level of what we hear at its zenith

A worthy manifesto, indeed :)

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« Reply #82 on: May 22, 2015, 04:48:02 AM »
Great post Julio,

The headphones you have been listening to are seriious pieces of kit on their own. Great that the company lets you audition to compare in your own time and space.

About 6 months ago I was looking for a dedicated headphone amp and purchased one of these off ebay:


With multiple sources I have set up my CD player, VS2480 and a blu ray player (for Robert Rich's Perpetual and Somnium set).

The sound through my speakers improved so much I have hardly used my headphones since then and usually choose to turn on the CD player rather than the VS 2480 when I have spare time.
   It's a long time since I've been so excited by music that it's hard to play a complete album. Often what I'm listening to will remind me of something else and I'll have to put that on asap....

I'm hoping at some point soon to settle a bit and start recording again....
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« Reply #83 on: May 22, 2015, 04:50:57 AM »
PS. what I'm actually doing is looking for somewhere to live where I can set the studio and music up properly so I can really relax and enjoy listening and recording music....

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« Reply #84 on: June 01, 2017, 07:03:09 PM »
Its been so quiet around here of late so I thought I would spice it up with some smoke and fire.... :o

My SPL Phonitor 2 headphone amps right channel died the other day and while it did so it sent a load signal to the right channel of my Sennheiser HD800 headphones......what an indescribable sound.....shattering paper thin carbide sheets under blackhole pressure, ok its describable.  Whats not describable  are my thoughts, well actually not printable. Think of words to describe $3400 of beautiful designed dead metal and the sweetest sounding headphones gone.

Within seconds came the cremated electronic smell that permeated the studio.....more non printable words.

Warranty on both amp and cans ran out in December 2016.....almost printable  F..K!

I contacted Zen Pro Audio where I got the SPL Phonitor 2 and the owner Warren jump into action to see what could be done...within an hour or so I had the sales rep for SPL, followed by the service manager for SPL in contact with me...impressive.  I think once I had explained how the amp had absolutely crush and destroyed my HD 800 cans some sympathy or empathy at least was given......their words were "we will be gentle with you"....lets see.

Now the Sennhesier HD800....firstly you can't talk to them, Sennheiser that is.  No warranty, click here on the website....type model number here.....flat service fee $585. 
A lot more words not fit to be printed here....but what gets one thinking is what sort of great headphones can you get $585, right.  Certainly the HD800's are truly wonderful with the right amp. Like nothing Ive ever heard before.  Much to think about.

The amp will be fixed but not for the headphones.  The one other paramount aspect of the Phonitor 2 amp is that it also drives my studio monitors, well they are power monitors but the signal that goes to the cans also goes to the monitors through the Phonitor....listening as I have to now with my system reconfigured it is sonically lacking without the Phonitor 2 amp to drive those monitors.

The Sennhesier HD800 sit in their box like a silk laced funeral casket while I decide how to approach this and Im enjoying my old Grado SR 325 cans, the ones in the first post in this thread.

I hope this comes across as me having some fun with these  bizarre events. :)

 
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« Reply #85 on: June 02, 2017, 12:48:49 AM »
oo...sorry to hear about that - not nice.

I lost my previous Beyers when I got a feedback loop and had to choose what to turn down first - VS2480 or headphones....

I still have the beyers, but they buzz on one side if the bass frequencies hits a certain note or presence or tone.

Hope you get the amp fixed and replace the headphones with something that excites you.






had these 2 years now - still think they are fantastic. Though those Focals look very, very nice Julio

and still using them......though may need to get replacement foam pads - 25.
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« Reply #86 on: June 02, 2017, 01:00:10 AM »
PS. what I'm actually doing is looking for somewhere to live where I can set the studio and music up properly so I can really relax and enjoy listening and recording music....

Moved house a year ago - have a room just for music 8) 8)

Have really enjoyed listening to music with enough space to give the sound air.

Started recording again about a month ago....

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« Reply #87 on: June 02, 2017, 05:21:47 AM »
oo...sorry to hear about that - not nice.

I lost my previous Beyers when I got a feedback loop and had to choose what to turn down first - VS2480 or headphones....

I still have the beyers, but they buzz on one side if the bass frequencies hits a certain note or presence or tone.

Hope you get the amp fixed and replace the headphones with something that excites you.






had these 2 years now - still think they are fantastic. Though those Focals look very, very nice Julio

and still using them......though may need to get replacement foam pads - 25.


Yup, the Grado's are really good headphones....Im happy to still have them.  I put a softer ear cups on them, not grade brand and it killed the higher frequency so best to replace the cups with what grado make for them which I just did a few days ago.

I find myself in what I call "The leasing a Porsche Syndrome"  Here in America there was a Porsche that could be leased for under $500 a month, something that was manageable for some until that first service and a complete tire change at $500 plus a tire......thats sort of where Im at with the HD800 headphones.  Its a lot of cash to come up with to fix them but I will get to it because they are that good.

Good to hear that your able to record again in a happy enviroment Seren!
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« Reply #88 on: June 02, 2017, 06:08:59 AM »
Re Grado's - I did see a forum comment where somebody advised that the change from on ear to over ear also affected the sound quality, and that the on ears were much more uncomfortable.....so unsure what to get now...
best of luck getting the HD800's fixed

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« Reply #89 on: June 02, 2017, 12:03:22 PM »
Seren these are what original came with my Grado Prestige SR 325's and what I recently got to replace the fluffier on ear ones.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006GCCO0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are uncomfortable, being over ear,  the headphone mechanics so to speak does make contact with the ear and after long periods, for me about an hour or so I begin to notice it.  Grado users seem to put up with this because the sound quality is worth it.
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« Reply #90 on: June 02, 2017, 12:52:59 PM »
Julio, that's a bugger !

I get pretty hacked off when gear fails - I expect it to work for ever :) It must be particularly galling as it wasn't the usual wear and tear / drivers failing etc. I've had more phones fail on me over the years than anything else.
My ancient Shure E500 IEMs died recently, they were held together with hot glue and nail varnish, but I kept them as I find them invaluable for mastering. Fortunately, a good friend sold me on his unwanted Shure SE535s , so I'm covered again.

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« Reply #91 on: June 02, 2017, 10:05:42 PM »
I go back and forth between these three:

I use http://pro.ultimateears.com/products/custom-monitors/for-audiophiles/reference-remastered when playing live, mixing and tracking.

I use http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/37a47d8ea9cf0796/index.html for critical listening and final mix decisions.

I use http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/f39784ce643a82e6/index.html for kicking back and listening at home

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« Reply #92 on: June 03, 2017, 12:32:35 AM »
I have AKG headphones:

IP2: http://www.akg.com/pro/p/ip2
K702: http://www.akg.com/pro/p/k702

I like the silky sounding of the K702, so I own this pair twice :)
Now I am looking for a headphone amp rack device.
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« Reply #93 on: June 03, 2017, 07:56:40 AM »
Julio, that's a bugger !

I get pretty hacked off when gear fails - I expect it to work for ever :) It must be particularly galling as it wasn't the usual wear and tear / drivers failing etc. I've had more phones fail on me over the years than anything else.
My ancient Shure E500 IEMs died recently, they were held together with hot glue and nail varnish, but I kept them as I find them invaluable for mastering. Fortunately, a good friend sold me on his unwanted Shure SE535s , so I'm covered again.

Hey Pete,

Yeah, new gear as in a few years that dies prematurely is definitely annoying.....and quality equipment built to last.  When one pays a lot of coin longevity is part of the sum.  In my case the Headphones were victims of the pre amp so can't fault them.

Did not know nail varnish had build applications... :)
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« Reply #94 on: June 03, 2017, 04:28:48 PM »
Really sorry to hear the bad news.   :-\  That must be devastating, Julio.
I hope you get some good recompense for the failure.


As a side note, I always use much less expensive headphones ... so that if I tread on them
or the dog chews them to shreds I have little concern about simply buying another pair.   :)

I'm in the market for a new pair (wasn't the dog this time), and currently use, and am happy
with,  AKG. So interesting to see your post, Jaja, about your AKGs. Will have to audition them.
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« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2017, 05:23:30 AM »
Really sorry to hear the bad news.   :-\  That must be devastating, Julio.
I hope you get some good recompense for the failure.


As a side note, I always use much less expensive headphones ... so that if I tread on them
or the dog chews them to shreds I have little concern about simply buying another pair.   :)

I'm in the market for a new pair (wasn't the dog this time), and currently use, and am happy
with,  AKG. So interesting to see your post, Jaja, about your AKGs. Will have to audition them.

Hi Anthony.....its got a definite sting to it.

I feel quality headphones are very important generally but perhaps even more so for our genre while creating to give the music a unique space that headphones give and naturally for pleasurable listening.

Those AKG K702 headphones that Jana uses are fine cans as are Paul's selection....theres a lot to choose from and it seems you do get what you pay for.
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« Reply #96 on: June 05, 2017, 12:50:09 AM »
Seren these are what original came with my Grado Prestige SR 325's and what I recently got to replace the fluffier on ear ones.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006GCCO0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are uncomfortable, being over ear,  the headphone mechanics so to speak does make contact with the ear and after long periods, for me about an hour or so I begin to notice it.  Grado users seem to put up with this because the sound quality is worth it.
Mine has the newer g cushion shape and debating which to get - and do I get cheaper versions available on the internet?

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« Reply #97 on: June 05, 2017, 05:14:05 AM »
Seren these are what original came with my Grado Prestige SR 325's and what I recently got to replace the fluffier on ear ones.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006GCCO0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These are uncomfortable, being over ear,  the headphone mechanics so to speak does make contact with the ear and after long periods, for me about an hour or so I begin to notice it.  Grado users seem to put up with this because the sound quality is worth it.
Mine has the newer g cushion shape and debating which to get - and do I get cheaper versions available on the internet?


I see the G cushion is much bigger than the L.....and twice the price.  I might have to try those G's.if they offer more comfort.   Appears they do cover the ear completely.  Did those G cushions come with your headphones?  It looks like they were designed for the Grado Professional line.....http://www.4ourears.net/Grado_G_cushions_p/4e-gcush.htm

Heres a picture of the PS1000e that has G cushions.


I would go for cushions made by Grado...usually is the best approach though can be more expensive.  The L cushion I got through amazon are Grado made.
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« Reply #98 on: June 05, 2017, 05:25:42 AM »
Stay away from these for Grado Headphones.....these are what I meant by "Fluffy"  They are comfortable but kill the sound on my Grado SR325's



Amazon link for reference.....https://www.amazon.com/EarZonk-Long-Life-Leatherette-Cushions-Headphones/dp/B00OM21W1I/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_23_bs_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=78X3HPN97BQYKN3K1VKK
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« Reply #99 on: June 05, 2017, 07:43:54 AM »
A little Grado History

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