I can't justify this and am at latest Live 8.2.5 which came out recently. There is still so much for me to figure out in that product. What blew me away was opening up a drum rack and having ALL the pads (16 per group) all available for individual tweaking (volume, send/receive, etc). And it's something else to learn to code in (M4L). I know it gets you more under the hood of Live for stuff Live doesn't do (at the time or easily) but can't justify it cost-wise or need. I just updated to NI Komplete 7 and now 8 is out and I am not going to it until it is %50 off as how I went to 7 (from 5). And Absynth is a beast and newer Reaktor + Kontakt 4 et al is too much for me even to get into atm. Do you remember which album of yours I bought awhile ago? I need to find it and dig it out to spin it again/rip to my WHS server. As I want to get your later stuff but I don't know what I am missing! Anyways, glad to see someone here using M4L for their stuff. Lots of potential from that additional interface to Live for damn sure, but have too much to still get a grip on/with (Live stuff + NI instruments from Komplete).