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"Mythos and Music"
« on: April 23, 2015, 11:19:44 AM »
This weekend Lena and I will be attending CthulhuCon here in Portland - a convention event sort of loosely focused on the work of H.P. Lovecraft, including movies and games inspired by Lovecraft's work, and other writers working in the same general area of cosmic horror.


One event I'll be part of is a panel discussion called "Mythos and Music" where we'll discuss various types of related music. It won't just be about ambient or dark ambient stuff, and will probably focus more on industrial and metal, as there are more examples of that kind of thing actually using words and names directly out of Lovecraft. The other panelists have all different kinds of varied music backgrounds and interests, and are probably even more knowledgeable than I am about songs and albums where recording artists have directly "quoted" from Lovecraft.


My opinion is that it's not terribly interesting if we talk only about artist or bands who make songs named after Lovecraft stories, and much more interesting if we discuss the wider sphere of influence, and that's where dark ambient comes in. Something like Lustmord "feels" a lot like Lovecraft's stories even though Lustmord isn't name-dropping Cthulhu or other details out of Lovecraft's mythos into his work.


I wondered if anybody had any suggestions about what might be covered in a discussion like this?
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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2015, 12:58:41 PM »
Just a note. Much of the music of Robert Davies is influenced by Lovecraft, particularly in relation to a sort of nature mysticism or animism. He often quotes Lovecraft on the covers and uses brief lines for track titles.
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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2015, 06:02:59 PM »
> I wondered if anybody had any suggestions about what might be covered in a discussion like this?

APK's reference to Davies is a good one because, although some of the themes, titles, and whatnot are Lovecraftian, the music doesn't always strike me as dark per se. I sometimes wonder if it is too easy to play into the dark side of Lovecraft when making music rather than emphasizing the mystery or the sense of other-worldliness. 

Here is something I like that is clearly inspired by Lovecraft, but not sinister or overly dark in its atmosphere--one of my favorites from 2013: The Ashes of Piemonte - Datura Notes https://twicerememberedtwiceremoved.bandcamp.com/album/datura-notes

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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2015, 09:43:50 AM »
> I wondered if anybody had any suggestions about what might be covered in a discussion like this?

APK's reference to Davies is a good one because, although some of the themes, titles, and whatnot are Lovecraftian, the music doesn't always strike me as dark per se. I sometimes wonder if it is too easy to play into the dark side of Lovecraft when making music rather than emphasizing the mystery or the sense of other-worldliness. 

Here is something I like that is clearly inspired by Lovecraft, but not sinister or overly dark in its atmosphere--one of my favorites from 2013: The Ashes of Piemonte - Datura Notes https://twicerememberedtwiceremoved.bandcamp.com/album/datura-notes


Hi Chris - your post was a little small

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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2015, 10:12:27 AM »
Thanks for the replies, everybody. I was in a hurry this past few days with out-of-town guests visiting for the convention, and of course the convention itself.


The "Mythos and Music" panel discussion ended up being lots of fun. We covered everything from Lustmord and Sleep Research and Endvra, to Metallica, Rudamentari Peni and Portal.



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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2015, 11:45:02 AM »
Here's a post on my fiction-related blog at griffinwords.com recapping the "Mythos and Music" panel, along with photos and videos.

http://griffinwords.com/2015/04/28/mythos-and-music-panel-at-cthulhucon-2015/

Please note that I didn't try to mention "ambient favorites" (so I did not mention a great deal of ambient music that is very appealing, influential and important to me) but specifically music that evokes a "Lovecraftian" vibe.
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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2016, 06:37:44 PM »
Another warning that this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days. So, I reactivate.

It is very interesting to see the great influential impressions that H.P. Lovecraft and kindred souls e.g. E.A. Poe, J. Verne reflected (also to one another).
I believe that we simply find each other, the musician the poet and the painter, the thinker the dreamer and the composer (for example).

We reflect what we feel and see, and we share and invent. This topic is truly conscious while it actual is very subconscious.
I always loved the dark sides, the unknown abyss within our bodies like the Universe is painted in black.

Lovecraft and the music. The music of Erich Zann, the unearthly outer space voices through earthlike creatures and through dreams like Hypnos. I think the subconsciousness tells us a lot about music of the outer-world of the being of us all.

Lovecraft shows the cosmic experience with such a wise voice.
"There are the unbiased and fleeting moments in music, which are eternal and imperishable."

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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 12:38:43 PM »
Additional I finally made it to watch your panel discussion in Portland. Very hard to understand for me at some times but overall interesting to hear some names who were inspired by Lovecraft, and some thoughts how you all see the world of the mystic in music. I took the chance to search the internet for Lovecraftian music and found a weird band called AKLO. I dont know if you were already mentioning this band in your videos: http://aklo-lovecraftian.bandcamp.com/

And yes, soundtracks are the key to enter/reflect a story (either written or painted). Ambient music (not necessarily dark ambient music) beams us to cosmos and its actual horrifying mystic wonders. I am writing on a piece and as I really love to weirdly tune music, it really sounding not from this earth. Cosmic bending somehow. Fascinating is that since a few days I read Lovecraft stories like "The tree", "Hypnos", "The color from space", but I wrote the piece before I began to read and now I hear Lovecraftian reflections within the music. :o
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Re: "Mythos and Music"
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 02:59:16 PM »
Thanks for your comments, Stargazer. Since I'm involved in both the ambient music scene and the weird/horror fiction scene, I've been very interested to see how many people are interested in both.
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