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Anodize DB:
I will augment my previous post using your comment as well, Mike - *mediocre* CB movies. Truth be told, I didn't see any of the ones that came out this year, as they all looked, well, blah at best. The only one I regret missing was X-Men, but plan to catch it now on-demand; at least it benefited from overall positive reviews, and certainly looked the most interesting of them all.

I again reiterate my anticipation for Dark Knight Rises, but of course it remains to be seen whether Nolan can top himself, as DK was totally completely brilliant, and, IMO, *the* best CB film yet (Iron Man runs a close second), a declaration that, naturally, will provoke (and still does) endless debate.

Unrelated, but speaking of event films, just found there will in fact be a fifth Die Hard, sporting the appalling title A Good Day to Die Hard...oy! (No trailer for this one yet, of course. ;) )

mgriffin:
My quick summary of recent comic book films. I'm ignoring the original Batman trilogy and Superman films.

Thor - enjoyable, neither top-notch nor embarrassing, started off better than it finished

Wolverine - same as Thor, maybe not quite as good as that

Iron Man - one of my favorite comic book movies, captured the kick-ass fun quality of well-done comics better than any other

Iron Man 2 - a pretty good movie but at least one notch below the first Iron Man

Ghost Rider - dumb but quite a bit of fun, somehow

X-Men - enjoyable but suffered in comparison to the sequel

X2 - was my favorite comic book movie until Iron Man

X-men 3 Last Stand - huge let-down -- maybe we can just pretend that never happened? Seriously, fuck that ending!

X-Men First Class - quite good, not at the level of X2 but so much better than the 3rd one.

Spiderman - I really liked this when it came out, but it seems a bit less strong in retrospect, especially after the next one

Spiderman 2 - A nice sequel, and for its time really quite good

Spiderman 3 - one of those heartless, soulless missing-the-point sequels that really pisses me off

Both Hulk movies were pointless, in different ways. The first was "good cinema" but a poor superhero movie.

Daredevil and Elektra completely sucked.

The Superman reboot was nice to look at, but boring. I doubt I'll watch it again.

Nolan's first Batman was great and the second was fantastic, the best superhero flick ever made.

I don't quite count The Watchmen in this category, but I really liked it. Yes, I know a lot of people didn't.

One more thought: Can we quit "rebooting" stories so quickly? The next Spiderman movie is a "reboot?" That's ridiculous. Same thing with two Hulk movies just a few years apart, the second not a sequel, not a prequel, but a "reboot." That's stupid. Continuity should count for something. The viewer's investment of time, money and attention in a film should not be answered with "nevermind that, it didn't happen." It's fine to try again after decades have passed, since obviously you can't use the same actors anyway. In this sense the Batman reboot was a good thing. If they'd tried to do Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns starring Michael Keaton, that would have been a mistake.

OK, that's all I have to say on superhero movies now. And I'd better post some non-superhero movie trailer here so this doesn't become the comic book movies topic.

Bill Binkelman:
I completely agree with you, Mike, about re-boots. I was shocked that the new Spiderman is a re-boot. I mean, WTF? Batman Begins and Casino Royale were good examples of re-boots that worked, IMO.

So many people hated the third X-Men movie and I thought it was "okay" so I'm curious if anyone wants to say why it sucked so bad. Admittedly, I stopped reading X-Men WAY before the whole Dark Phoenix storyline emerged, so maybe I am missing something here. Was it just because of Xavier getting killed? Also, no mention of the Fantastic Four movies, Mike? Probably because they sucked too? As a HUGE fan of the comic in the silver age, I certainly thought they sucked. Talk about abysmal casting!!! And Doctor Doom was supposed to be the FF's Joker, right? They completely missed the point of Doom, IMO. I always thought Lucas was somewhat influenced by Doom when he created the look of Darth Vader.

mgriffin:
Before I answer Bill's message, here as promised is another non-superhero upcoming movie trailer.

John Carter of Mars, coming in 2012.

John Carter Trailer 2012 -- Official Movie Trailer | HD

mgriffin:

--- Quote from: Bill Binkelman on October 13, 2011, 10:43:03 AM ---So many people hated the third X-Men movie and I thought it was "okay" so I'm curious if anyone wants to say why it sucked so bad. Admittedly, I stopped reading X-Men WAY before the whole Dark Phoenix storyline emerged, so maybe I am missing something here. Was it just because of Xavier getting killed?
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My objection to X-Men 3, I think shared by a lot of comic fans, is the way it so casually disposed of such huge, essential elements of the X-Men continuity. Seriously, three films into a series and it's already time to "cure" all genetic mutations throughout the world and kill Professor X? It's not exactly like the X-Men universe was played out, cinematically speaking. If any comic book property had the potential for a dozen films over the course of two decades with a gradually changing cast, it was X-Men.

I might not have even objected so much to the premature end of it all if these endings had been handled in a more compelling way, but they ended all that X-Men mythology before it ever had a chance to be explored, all in the name of this lukewarm, 3-star finale.

Now, no chance of a "Dark Phoenix" saga or any of the other modern X-Men stories ever being explored now. Well, until yet another reboot, I guess.




--- Quote --- Also, no mention of the Fantastic Four movies, Mike? Probably because they sucked too? As a HUGE fan of the comic in the silver age, I certainly thought they sucked. Talk about abysmal casting!!! And Doctor Doom was supposed to be the FF's Joker, right? They completely missed the point of Doom, IMO. I always thought Lucas was somewhat influenced by Doom when he created the look of Darth Vader.

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I forgot about the FF movies. They were pretty forgettable, and a great disappointment. So many of these films it's hard to remember anything about them, other than the stuff you get (the look of the characters and one or two impressive set pieces) from the trailers.

Green Lantern, Thor, both FF movies, Daredevil, Elektra... I feel like you can watch a couple of trailers and read a five-line synopsis of the plot, and not miss anything. There's really no reason to see these. I mean, they're diverting, but so is an episode of Eureka or something.

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