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Movie trailers worth a look
« on: October 11, 2011, 07:08:54 PM »
Everyone likes a big, long never-ending perpetual forum topic, right? Now that we have the ability to embed YouTube videos, how about one for new movie trailers that seem worth a look?

Please create separate topics for other videos (jokes, cute kittens, Bollywood dance freakouts) and save this one for on-topic stuff, OK?

I bring you... the first trailer for The Avengers.

The Avengers - Official Trailer

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 07:21:48 PM »
Where's Steed and Mrs Peel? 

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 08:22:51 AM »
Where's Steed and Mrs Peel?

Hee, hee...probably at afternoon tea with Honor Blackman...  ;D

I'm burned out on comic book films at the moment, but do have to admit that the Avengers trailer does look damn cool...it remains to be seen if the filmmakers can pull it off.

Next year, at bare minimum, we have both Avengers & Dark Knight Rises, both quite anticipated, although I'm betting that Nolan's Batman denouement's gonna be hard to beat.

Still looking forward to The Thing next week.
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Re: Movie trailers worth a look
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 08:37:02 AM »
I'm not burned out on comic book movies, but I am burned out on mediocre comic book movies. As you say, Darren, the next Batman and the Avengers look promising.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 01:11:09 PM »
Yeah, count me interested in this. I LOVED the Iron Man movies so am glad to see that Tony Starkplays a prominent role. I also enjoyed the Thor movie, too, despite myself (I thought the whole "fish out of water" bit when Thor came to Earth would be campy but it played out quite nicely, to my surprise). I never even saw the second Hulk film and isn't this the THIRD actor to play Bruce Banner? I have never been a Hulk fan, though, despite that I "came of age" reading the silver age of Marvel comics in the 60s and early 70s. I still haven't seen the Captain America movie (hope to see it soon as it's still in second run theaters here in Mpls). Can't say I was a HUGE Cap fan in my comic reading days, either, and if he never wears his mask (as it looks like in the trailer), well, it's not really "Cap" then, is it?  ;) And, while I love Samuel L Jackson, I just can't totally buy him as Nick Fury (at least not the Nick Fury who led the Howling Commandos). Speaking of which, no matter how bad Jackson may or may not be, he will NEVER approach the level of badness that David Hassellhoff did in that WRETCHED TV film, Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D, which was abysmal.

I also haven't seen X-MEN First Class...how is that? Good, "meh," or bad?
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 04:58:17 PM »
I will augment my previous post using your comment as well, Mike - *mediocre* CB movies. Truth be told, I didn't see any of the ones that came out this year, as they all looked, well, blah at best. The only one I regret missing was X-Men, but plan to catch it now on-demand; at least it benefited from overall positive reviews, and certainly looked the most interesting of them all.

I again reiterate my anticipation for Dark Knight Rises, but of course it remains to be seen whether Nolan can top himself, as DK was totally completely brilliant, and, IMO, *the* best CB film yet (Iron Man runs a close second), a declaration that, naturally, will provoke (and still does) endless debate.

Unrelated, but speaking of event films, just found there will in fact be a fifth Die Hard, sporting the appalling title A Good Day to Die Hard...oy! (No trailer for this one yet, of course. ;) )

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Re: Movie trailers worth a look
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 07:08:02 PM »
My quick summary of recent comic book films. I'm ignoring the original Batman trilogy and Superman films.

Thor - enjoyable, neither top-notch nor embarrassing, started off better than it finished

Wolverine - same as Thor, maybe not quite as good as that

Iron Man - one of my favorite comic book movies, captured the kick-ass fun quality of well-done comics better than any other

Iron Man 2 - a pretty good movie but at least one notch below the first Iron Man

Ghost Rider - dumb but quite a bit of fun, somehow

X-Men - enjoyable but suffered in comparison to the sequel

X2 - was my favorite comic book movie until Iron Man

X-men 3 Last Stand - huge let-down -- maybe we can just pretend that never happened? Seriously, fuck that ending!

X-Men First Class - quite good, not at the level of X2 but so much better than the 3rd one.

Spiderman - I really liked this when it came out, but it seems a bit less strong in retrospect, especially after the next one

Spiderman 2 - A nice sequel, and for its time really quite good

Spiderman 3 - one of those heartless, soulless missing-the-point sequels that really pisses me off

Both Hulk movies were pointless, in different ways. The first was "good cinema" but a poor superhero movie.

Daredevil and Elektra completely sucked.

The Superman reboot was nice to look at, but boring. I doubt I'll watch it again.

Nolan's first Batman was great and the second was fantastic, the best superhero flick ever made.

I don't quite count The Watchmen in this category, but I really liked it. Yes, I know a lot of people didn't.

One more thought: Can we quit "rebooting" stories so quickly? The next Spiderman movie is a "reboot?" That's ridiculous. Same thing with two Hulk movies just a few years apart, the second not a sequel, not a prequel, but a "reboot." That's stupid. Continuity should count for something. The viewer's investment of time, money and attention in a film should not be answered with "nevermind that, it didn't happen." It's fine to try again after decades have passed, since obviously you can't use the same actors anyway. In this sense the Batman reboot was a good thing. If they'd tried to do Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns starring Michael Keaton, that would have been a mistake.

OK, that's all I have to say on superhero movies now. And I'd better post some non-superhero movie trailer here so this doesn't become the comic book movies topic.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 10:43:03 AM »
I completely agree with you, Mike, about re-boots. I was shocked that the new Spiderman is a re-boot. I mean, WTF? Batman Begins and Casino Royale were good examples of re-boots that worked, IMO.

So many people hated the third X-Men movie and I thought it was "okay" so I'm curious if anyone wants to say why it sucked so bad. Admittedly, I stopped reading X-Men WAY before the whole Dark Phoenix storyline emerged, so maybe I am missing something here. Was it just because of Xavier getting killed? Also, no mention of the Fantastic Four movies, Mike? Probably because they sucked too? As a HUGE fan of the comic in the silver age, I certainly thought they sucked. Talk about abysmal casting!!! And Doctor Doom was supposed to be the FF's Joker, right? They completely missed the point of Doom, IMO. I always thought Lucas was somewhat influenced by Doom when he created the look of Darth Vader.
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Re: Movie trailers worth a look
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 10:55:51 AM »
Before I answer Bill's message, here as promised is another non-superhero upcoming movie trailer.

John Carter of Mars, coming in 2012.

John Carter Trailer 2012 -- Official Movie Trailer | HD
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 11:07:02 AM »
So many people hated the third X-Men movie and I thought it was "okay" so I'm curious if anyone wants to say why it sucked so bad. Admittedly, I stopped reading X-Men WAY before the whole Dark Phoenix storyline emerged, so maybe I am missing something here. Was it just because of Xavier getting killed?

My objection to X-Men 3, I think shared by a lot of comic fans, is the way it so casually disposed of such huge, essential elements of the X-Men continuity. Seriously, three films into a series and it's already time to "cure" all genetic mutations throughout the world and kill Professor X? It's not exactly like the X-Men universe was played out, cinematically speaking. If any comic book property had the potential for a dozen films over the course of two decades with a gradually changing cast, it was X-Men.

I might not have even objected so much to the premature end of it all if these endings had been handled in a more compelling way, but they ended all that X-Men mythology before it ever had a chance to be explored, all in the name of this lukewarm, 3-star finale.

Now, no chance of a "Dark Phoenix" saga or any of the other modern X-Men stories ever being explored now. Well, until yet another reboot, I guess.



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Also, no mention of the Fantastic Four movies, Mike? Probably because they sucked too? As a HUGE fan of the comic in the silver age, I certainly thought they sucked. Talk about abysmal casting!!! And Doctor Doom was supposed to be the FF's Joker, right? They completely missed the point of Doom, IMO. I always thought Lucas was somewhat influenced by Doom when he created the look of Darth Vader.

I forgot about the FF movies. They were pretty forgettable, and a great disappointment. So many of these films it's hard to remember anything about them, other than the stuff you get (the look of the characters and one or two impressive set pieces) from the trailers.

Green Lantern, Thor, both FF movies, Daredevil, Elektra... I feel like you can watch a couple of trailers and read a five-line synopsis of the plot, and not miss anything. There's really no reason to see these. I mean, they're diverting, but so is an episode of Eureka or something.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2011, 06:32:12 PM »
Robert Downey Jr. aka Iron Man sure got a lot of mug-time per superhero for that preview.... This  is not quite a trailer, but close.  There is no official trailer for this just yet.  Also this is worth it for the accompanying music  8):


Prometheus Teaser



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Re: Movie trailers worth a look
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2011, 01:36:58 PM »
John Dies At the End

That's the title, not a spoiler. Looks interesting to me.

John Dies at the End Teaser Trailer
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2011, 02:10:33 PM »
Some of you will dismiss this right off, but I thought these books were pretty good.

The Hunger games.

The Hunger Games HD Theatrical Trailer
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 02:32:46 PM »
I'd see it.
The Hunger games books were excellent, even if teen oriented.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2011, 04:58:24 PM »
POSSIBLE MINOR THEMATIC SPOILERS AHEAD....



last chance to bail.....

I am a HUGE fan of the 3-part book series, but I have severe reservations about the film(s) (even before I saw the trailer, but the trailer underscores my fears).

(1) Hunger Games is a dark and complex novel (and the next two escalate from that starting point). I worry that the film adaptation(s) will fall to the same fate as a similarly dark and complex trio of novels, the first of which was The Golden Compass. Hollywood took THAT book and "Disney'fied" it in extremis! The film had none of the complexities or metaphysics of the book AT ALL. I worry that the same thing will happen here.

(2) Hunger Games, and its two sequels, are dark, cynical, bitter tales and VERY violent, including violence perpetrated ON and BY pre-teen children. How can they possibly do justice to this CRUCIAL element of the story and still get a PG-13? If they soften the violence at all, it totally undercuts the visceral impact of the material and also calls into question the very nature of the emotional chaos that overwhelms the lead character, Katniss.

(3) Based on the trailer, the "stars" they got to play their respective characters are all "too pretty." The world of the Hunger Games, with the exception of when the setting is the "Capitol" is that of dirty, grimy, barely surviving people. The lead characters in the trailer look like they are from "The O.C." or some other post-teen TV show. The only actor who, IMO, I think will fit his character as written will be Donald Sutherland as President Snow.

I WILL see this, just as I did The Golden Compass, but I truly fear that this will suffer the same fate, just as the same fate befell other great SF/fantasy works in the young adult genre, e.g. Madeline L'Engle's "A Wrinkle in Time," Ursula LeGuinn's "Earthsea" series, and others. When the source material is crafted as an intelligent, dark, and deep body of work, invariably Hollywood gives ITS audience less credit for appreciating that element than the large publishing houses do when they publish the original works.

Sorry to be so cynical....because I LOVED the Hunger Games trilogy....but the last book in the series would HAVE to be R-rated....it is simply too dark, too twisted, too pessimistic not to be. We're talking, IMO, on the level of Cormac McCarthy's The Road, again IMO. And they will not make it R-rated so they will gut the very essence of Katniss' story.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 10:01:27 AM »
Wow Griffin, your takes on the super hero genre pretty much echo mine to a T. But you forgot about the Fantastic 4 !!!

Anyway, your thought about Ghost Rider really cracked me up, because I had the same thought...this movie really is not that good and yet, I have seen it like 4 times... :o

I loved X-Men 1 & 2, especially as I was a huge X-Men fan and used to have every issue from #4 (the 1960's series) all the way through 200'sh in the late 80's and I thought despite such a twisted soap opera history in the comic itself, plus the New Mutants...they handled it as well as they could. Now...#3 they tied up way too many things from the 30+ year series in a 2 hour movie and just botched it!!!! Never bothered with Wolverine or 1st class because of it.

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 11:46:11 AM »
Paul, scroll down a little and you'll see where somebody asked me about the Fantastic Four movies.

We went into Ghost Rider with low expectations and thought it was really enjoyable. I'd certainly watch that one again, which I can't say about some of the others on the list.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 12:01:36 PM »
POSSIBLE MINOR THEMATIC SPOILERS AHEAD....

last chance to bail.....

I am a HUGE fan of the 3-part book series, but I have severe reservations about the film(s) (even before I saw the trailer, but the trailer underscores my fears).

...

Sorry to be so cynical....because I LOVED the Hunger Games trilogy....but the last book in the series would HAVE to be R-rated....it is simply too dark, too twisted, too pessimistic not to be. We're talking, IMO, on the level of Cormac McCarthy's The Road, again IMO. And they will not make it R-rated so they will gut the very essence of Katniss' story.


Bill, I really liked the Hunger Games stories, especially the first book (I thought the writing became more hurried and sloppy with each new installment). The HG books were surprising for their darkness, considering they were intended for a young adult readership. The Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings movies showed you can make a mass-market film suitable for an audience including younger people, and address such themes as fear of imminent death, the individual betrayed by authority, unexpected loss of loved ones, making sacrifice for a greater cause, and other aspects important to the HG stories. Does it matter if a character dies in gory detail onscreen, or is it merely important that they die with emotional authenticity (for themselves and those around them) conveyed clearly to the audience?

As for my own tastes, I feel like any literary or storytelling contest between Suzanne Collins and Cormac McCarthy ends in a very quick knockout for McCarthy.
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 02:17:21 PM »
Ghost Rider, haha. I thought that one was quite hilarious. I'm still not sure whether this movie was intentionally bad in a funny way.

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 04:09:30 PM »
POSSIBLE MINOR THEMATIC SPOILERS AHEAD....

last chance to bail.....

I am a HUGE fan of the 3-part book series, but I have severe reservations about the film(s) (even before I saw the trailer, but the trailer underscores my fears).

...

Sorry to be so cynical....because I LOVED the Hunger Games trilogy....but the last book in the series would HAVE to be R-rated....it is simply too dark, too twisted, too pessimistic not to be. We're talking, IMO, on the level of Cormac McCarthy's The Road, again IMO. And they will not make it R-rated so they will gut the very essence of Katniss' story.


Bill, I really liked the Hunger Games stories, especially the first book (I thought the writing became more hurried and sloppy with each new installment). The HG books were surprising for their darkness, considering they were intended for a young adult readership. The Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings movies showed you can make a mass-market film suitable for an audience including younger people, and address such themes as fear of imminent death, the individual betrayed by authority, unexpected loss of loved ones, making sacrifice for a greater cause, and other aspects important to the HG stories. Does it matter if a character dies in gory detail onscreen, or is it merely important that they die with emotional authenticity (for themselves and those around them) conveyed clearly to the audience?

As for my own tastes, I feel like any literary or storytelling contest between Suzanne Collins and Cormac McCarthy ends in a very quick knockout for McCarthy.

One, agreed on the artistic merits of Collins versus McCarthy...I was merely opining that they share an equally pessimistic and fatalistic view of humanity, IMO. That's my take, though, and YMMV.

Second, I do disagree somewhat about "... Does it matter if a character dies in gory detail onscreen..." because, yes, I do think in this case it makes a huge difference. The manner of death has a lot to do with accurately depicting the depravity of the power elite in how they relish seeing the combatants, especially the youngest ones, resort to cruel inhumane savagery in order to survive. I think the level of violence also helps to explain Katniss' descent into a hell of isolation, bitter cynicism, and despondence. If the deaths are relatively bloodless and/or happen off-screen, I don't know how they have Katniss evolve into what she becomes. Again, that is my take. I think the themes of LOTR and HP are vastly different than HG in tone. I don't know about you, but at the end of Return of the King and HP and the Deathly Hallows, I was relieved, elated, and feeling satisfied. I came away after the last HG installment pissed off, despairing and depressed. I don't doubt they can try to convey the guts of the books in a PG-13 format, but I think it will lose some of the novels' power. I also think they (the studios) will HAVE to raise the age of the youngest combatants, because I believe there was one girl who was, what, 6 or 7 years old yet was an effective killer, yes? I work with a woman who took her adolescent daughter to see "Hanna" and was shocked at the level of violence being perpetrated by the lead character...I thought the movie was actually milder than anticipated.

So, maybe it's too subjective to even evaluate. What I may think as mild you or others might think is brutal enough to convey the message of the books/movies.

Regardless, I will see the first movie and hopefully enjoy it enough to see the next one if it is made. If it's another Golden Compass, I will give it a pass.
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