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Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« on: June 25, 2012, 02:31:36 AM »
This is the conclusion I come to after researching this topic for over 20 years.  I invite a discussion by anyone who already accept the phenomenon (aerial discs, abduction by entities, hybridization program, the secret space program by NASA and its ongoing coverups) as a reality.  If you are a skeptic to the phenomenon please don't comment.  I am seeking a serious discussion with like minded researchers on this topic, and trying to gauge the "popularity" of this theory among those with more than a passing interest.  I don't correspond with websites or leave comments on YouTube as I don't wish to interact with fanatics or the lunatic fringe element that's out there on the Internet (though some may find that hypocritical considering my ideas which correspond to the very ideas of that lunatic fringe).  Seriously though, if you share my conclusion or are on the fence about it, I'd really like to enter into a good discussion here.  Thanks.

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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 09:17:21 PM »
I remember seeing a UFO out in the desert on the way to Vegas as I was traveling in Grayhound Bus at night just after the Calif./Nevada border. I was on a window seat listening to my walkman back in '91 or so looking out at the mountains which were just a bit darker than the night sky. Then I noticed a green light just above them flying from side to side for a few miles and also up and down. I was going to mention it to a passenger just behind me when it was gone. Bare in mind I had absolutely no interest in UFOs prior to that, I just wanted to get to the crap tables.

I used to spend quite a bit of time looking up at the sky with my old telescope before it was ripped off, and I used to just stare at the stars too without it. A couple times now within the last 14 years I've looked up at a set of stars and then noticed one just took off after being stationary for quite awhile.  You wouldn't see this kind of thing if you were inside at night.

As for a NASA coverup, abductions, its made for some good X-Files shows but I really can't say if that stuff is for real or not. Are UFOs demons or fallen angels, boy that's an old one! I first heard that one back in the 70s and its probably a lot older.


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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 10:07:06 AM »
Thanks for the comment, although, as I said in my original post, not really looking for any X-files jokes or "Gee I dunno there could be UFO's" type comments.   ;)

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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 03:26:12 PM »
PS:  You also imply that because the "demons/angels" theory was from the 70's it is some kind of old wives tale, and thus a "joke" like some view the phenomenon.  I think if you actually did some research on the subject and look at the arguments for this conclusion, you would stop laughing.   8)

Again, I welcome some serious discussion on this topic....

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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 05:05:08 AM »
I find the topic fascinating, and I do believe that we're a bit silly to think that we are 'alone' in the universe.  But I don't really research into it. 

Who you might want to look up is Chris Russell - he mostly is active on facebook (and best to message him there) - but if you're not on facebook - he's on http://relaxedmachinery.ning.com at:

http://relaxedmachinery.ning.com/profile/ChrisRussell

Chris has a strong interest in aliens - and his dad was the head of the ______ (I forget the name - but UFO type society) in Illinois for awhile. 

One heck of a musician also... :-)
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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 05:07:06 AM »
p.s.  I think you may have totally missed Steve Raymar's comment...

"I used to spend quite a bit of time looking up at the sky with my old telescope before it was ripped off, and I used to just stare at the stars too without it. A couple times now within the last 14 years I've looked up at a set of stars and then noticed one just took off after being stationary for quite awhile.  You wouldn't see this kind of thing if you were inside at night."

I think you're jumping to conclusions that people are laughing at you when they're really not.
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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 10:20:56 AM »
I don't think I said people were laughing at me, just that I preferred comments from people who are believers in the phenomenon, and specifically that the whole "alien/extra-terrestrial" bent to the phenomenon is a lie and a deception that people are blindly accepting (thanks to all the never-ending Hollywood movies, TV commercials, TV shows, etc) , when there is actually much more indication that this phenomenon is demonic/extra-dimensional in nature.  In a sense, a spiritual battle for our souls is going on.  And I am no religious/fundamentalist fanatic, in fact not even a practicing religious person.   This is the conclusion that some of the top UFO researchers, such as Jacques Vallee, arrived at by the way. 

Thanks for the info. on Chris Russell.  Does he ever visit the Forum? 

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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2012, 10:24:43 AM »
If Chris has posted here - it's been only once or twice... you'll have to go to facebook for him...   he is a good one on this particular topic though. 
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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2012, 05:54:16 PM »
Thanks for the comment, although, as I said in my original post, not really looking for any X-files jokes or "Gee I dunno there could be UFO's" type comments.   ;)

I didn't make any X-Files "jokes", I really liked the program. Sorry that my seeing a UFO in the desert wasn't good enough for you.

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PS:  You also imply that because the "demons/angels" theory was from the 70's it is some kind of old wives tale, and thus a "joke" like some view the phenomenon.  I think if you actually did some research on the subject and look at the arguments for this conclusion, you would stop laughing.

Well I don't believe in demons or angels, nor any kind of battle for our souls. My personal view is that there's only one soul which is more of an Eastern viewpoint. I wasn't laughing at the theory, I just don't buy it. I have heard an "out there" theory that all governments are run by an illuminati that is controlled by aliens. I'm up for the idea that there may be aliens but I'm not sure if they're trying to control us. There may even be aliens among us for all I know.


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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 10:07:03 AM »
THERE ARE--I come from Zeta Reticuli.

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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012, 10:38:23 AM »
Sorry that my seeing a UFO in the desert wasn't good enough for you.

I saw UFO once, they were a great band live.  ;D Ok, that will be the only joke I make in this thread.
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Re: Aliens/UFO are Demons/Fallen Angels
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 11:46:08 AM »
Either this plot came out of later season Stargate SG-1 episodes...   OR ...  Stargate was actually a factually historically acurate show.   Speaking of... I may need to rewatch a few episodes.
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