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new age voice
« on: April 04, 2008, 06:26:45 PM »
shortly before they ceased operations, they published a list of the 25 most influential new age albums of all time. i believe that one of them was by the orb. doe anyone know where i can get/see a copy of the list?
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Re: new age voice
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 06:30:46 PM »

Not the full list... but here's the top 5...

http://www.projekt.com/projekt/product.asp?sku=PRO00119


In October 2002, New Age Voice Magazine compiled their list:
The 25 Most Influential Ambient Albums Of All Time
Here are the top-5:

No. 1 Brian Eno ~ Ambient 1: Music for Airports (Editions EG)
No. 2 Steve Roach ~ Dreamtime Return (Fortuna/Projekt in 2003)
No. 3 Wendy Carlos ~ Sonic Seasonings (East Side Digital)
No. 4 Steve Roach ~ Structures from Silence (Projekt)
No. 5 Michael Stearns ~ Planetary Unfolding (Continuum Montage)
No. 6 Brian Eno ~ Ambient 4: On Land (Editions EG)

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Re: new age voice
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 07:09:58 PM »
What, only 2 Steve Roach albums in the top five?  He was robbed, I tell ya! :P 

These dial-a-Roach jokes are just too addictive...

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Re: new age voice
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 02:27:11 PM »
I'll look to see if I still have that issue in my stack. Don't think so but maybe I'm wrong.

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Re: new age voice
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 08:00:11 AM »
Here's a link to the Ambient at Hyperreal list from 2001...

http://music.hyperreal.org/epsilon/info/2001_classic_ambient.html

It's worth reading the article and seeing the entire list - but here are all the albums that got 3 or more votes:

THE POLL RESULTS

 

[34] - Biosphere: Substrata

[32] - Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works Vol. II

[25] - Brian Eno: On Land

[22] - Brian Eno: Apollo

[21] - Brian Eno: Music For Airports

[20] - Tetsu Inoue: Ambiant Otaku

[19] - Harold Budd/Brian Eno: The Pearl

[18] - Global Communication: 76:14

[17] - Future Sound of London: Lifeforms

[16] - Harold Budd/Brian Eno: The Plateaux of Mirror

[15] - Brian Eno: Thursday Afternoon

[14] - Tetsu Inoue: Organic Cloud

[13] - The KLF: Chill Out

[12] - Tetsu Inoue: World Receiver

[12] - Robert Rich: Trances/Drones

[12] - Robert Rich/Lustmord: Stalker

[12] - Woob: 1194

[11] - Biosphere/Higher Intelligence Agency: Polar Sequences

[10] - Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - Fourth World Vol. One: Possible Musics

[10] - Lustmord: The Place Where the Black Stars Hang

[9] - Autechre: Amber

[9] - Thomas Koner: Kaamos

[9] - The Orb: Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld

[9] - Steve Roach: Dreamtime Return

[9] - Steve Roach: The Magnificent Void

[9] - David Sylvian/Holger Czukay: Plight & Premonition

[8] - Boards of Canada: Music Has the Right to Children

[8] - Datacide: Flowerhead

[8] - James Johnson/Robert Scott Thompson: Forgotten Places

[8] - O Yuki Conjugate: Equator

[7] - Pete Namlook/Tetsu Inoue: 2350 Broadway

[7] - Pete Namlook/Tetsu Inoue: 2350 Broadway II

[7] - The Orb: UFOrb

[7] - Jeff Pearce: To The Shores of Heaven

[7] - Plastikman: Consumed

[7] - Robert Rich: Numena (by itself or in 2-CD set with Geometry)

[7] - Steve Roach: Quiet Music

[7] - Sun Electric: 30.7.94

[7] - Susumu Yokota: Sakura

[6] - Another Fine Day: Life Before Land

[6] - Ashera: Cobalt 144

[6] - Bola: Soup

[6] - Harold Budd: Lovely Thunder

[6] - Brian Eno: Discreet Music

[6] - Fripp & Eno: Evening Star

[6] - Pete Namlook/Dr. Atmo: Silence I

[6] - Vidna Obmana: The River of Appearance

[6] - Vangelis: Blade Runner

[6] - Various - Axiom Ambient: Lost in the Translation

[5] - Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works, '85-'92

[5] - Michael Brook: Cobalt Blue

[5] - Brian Eno: Neroli

[5] - Brian Eno: The Shutov Assembly

[5] - Robert Fripp: A Blessing of Tears

[5] - Gas: Pop

[5] - Global Communication: Pentamerous Metamorphosis

[5] - Jeff Greinke: Lost Terrain

[5] - Steve Hillage: Rainbow Dome Music

[5] - Human Mesh Dance: SecretNumberTwelve

[5] - The Irresistable Force: Flying High

[5] - The Irresistable Force: Global Chillage

[5] - James Johnson: Entering Twilight

[5] - Thomas Koner: Teimo

[5] - O Yuki Conjugate: Undercurrents in Dark Water

[5] - Steve Reich: Music For 18 Musicians

[5] - Klaus Schulze: Mirage

[5] - Skylab: #1

[5] - Stars of the Lid: Avec Laudenum

[5] - Stars of the Lid: The Ballasted Orchestra

[5] - Tangerine Dream: Rubycon

[4] - Autechre: Incunabula

[4] - Biosphere: Cirque

[4] - Michael Brook: Hybrid

[4] - Harold Budd/Cocteau Twins: The Moon and the Melodies

[4] - Brian Eno: Music For Films

[4] - Jon Hassell: Power Spot

[4] - Heavenly Music Corporation: Anechoic

[4] - Heavenly Music Corporation: Lunar Phase

[4] - James Johnson/Stephen Philips: Lost at Dunn's Lake

[4] - Thomas Koner: Permafrost

[4] - Alan Lamb: Primal Image

[4] - MLO Productions: Io

[4] - Monolake: Interstate

[4] - Pete Namlook: Air I & II

[4] - Pete Namlook/Dr. Atmo: Silence II

[4] - Vidna Obmana: The Subterranean Collective

[4] - The Orb: Orbus Terrarum

[4] - Stephen Philips: Desert Landscapes

[4] - Rapoon: Fallen Gods

[4] - Robert Rich/Alio Die: Fissures

[4] - Steve Roach: Early Man

[4] - Steve Roach: Structures From Silence

[4] - Steve Roach/Jorge Reyes: Vine, Bark & Spore

[4] - Steve Roach/Robert Rich: Soma

[4] - Paul Schutze - New Maps Of Hell 2: Rapture Of Metals

[4] - Shpongle: Are You Shpongled

[4] - Shuttle358: Optimal

[4] - A Small, Good Thing: Slim Westerns

[4] - Spyra: Phonehead

[4] - Michael Stearns: Planetary Unfolding

[4] - David Sylvian/Holger Czukay: Flux & Mutability

[4] - Terre Thaemlitz - Tranquilizer

[4] - TUU: All Our Ancestors

[4] - Vir Unis: The Drift Inside

[4] - Paul Vnuk Jr.: Silence Speaks in Shadows

[4] - Various: The Ambient Expanse

[4] - Various: Isolationism

[3] - Adham Shaikh: Journey to the Sun

[3] - Alio Die/Amelia Cuni: Apsaras

[3] - Alvo Noto/Scanner: Uniform

[3] - Arovane: Atol Scrap

[3] - Arvo Part - Fuer Alina

[3] - Baked Beans: Baked Beans

[3] - Bass Communion: Bass Communion

[3] - Kevin Braheny: The Way Home

[3] - Harold Budd: The White Arcades

[3] - Celtic Cross: Hicksville

[3] - David Darling: Cello

[3] - DJ Spooky: Songs of a Dead Dreamer

[3] - Robert Fripp: Let the Power Fall

[3] - Edgar Froese: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale

[3] - Future Sound of London: Dead Cities

[3] - Future Sound of London: ISDN

[3] - Peter Gabriel: Passion

[3] - Gas: Konigsforst

[3] - Jeff Greinke: Cities in Fog

[3] - Heavenly Music Corporation: In a Garden of Eden

[3] - Higher Intelligence Agency: Colourform

[3] - Hilmar Orn Hilmarsson - Children Of Nature

[3] - Mark Hollis: Mark Hollis

[3] - Howie B.: Music For Babies

[3] - The Illusion of Safety: The Illusion of Safety

[3] - Tetsu Inoue/Carlos Vivanco: Zenith

[3] - Jean-Michel Jarre: Oxygene

[3] - Thomas Koner: Nuuk

[3] - Brannan Lane: Sleep Cycle

[3] - Lull: Continue

[3] - Ingram Marshall: Three Penitential Visions

[3] - Miasma: Miasma (Em:t 1195)

[3] - Moby: Ambient

[3] - Monolake: Gobi (EP)

[3] - Pete Namlook: The 4 Seasons

[3] - Pete Namlook: Silence III

[3] - Pete Namlook/Burhan Ocal: Sultan

[3] - Pete Namlook/Tetsu Inoue: 62 Eulengasse

[3] - Pete Namlook/Tetsu Inoue: Shades of Orion 1 & 2

[3] - Pete Namlook/K. Schulze/B. Laswell: Dark Side of the Moog 5

[3] - Bill Nelson: Chance Encounters in the Garden of Light

[3] - Orbital: In Sides

[3] - Jochem Paap: Vrs. Mbnt Pcs 1 & 2

[3] - David Parsons: Dorje Ling

[3] - Jeff Pearce: Daylight Slowly

[3] - Jeff Pearce: The Light Beyond

[3] - Pole: CD3

[3] - Raison D'Etre: Prospectus I

[3] - Giles Reaves: Wunjo

[3] - Reload: A Collection of Short Stories

[3] - Jorge Reyes: Bajo El Sol Jaguar

[3] - Robert Rich: Bestiary

[3] - Robert Rich/Lisa Moscow: Yearning

[3] - Steve Roach: Atmospheric Conditions

[3] - Steve Roach: Dream Circle

[3] - Steve Roach: On This Planet

[3] - Steve Roach: Slow Heat

[3] - Steve Roach/Vidna Obmana: Ascension of Shadows

[3] - Steve Roach/Vidna Obmana: Cavern of Sirens

[3] - Scanner: Sound For Spaces

[3] - Klaus Schulze: Timewind

[3] - Seefeel: Polyfusia

[3] - Seti: Pharos

[3] - Shpongle: Tales of the Inexpressible

[3] - Solar Quest: Orgship

[3] - Solea Amphibia - Stratosphear

[3] - Carl Stone: Mom's

[3] - David Sylvian: Approaching Silence

[3] - David Sylvian: Gone to Earth

[3] - Tangerine Dream: Atem

[3] - Robert Scott Thompson: Blue Day

[3] - Vir Unis: Aeonian Glow

[3] - Uzect Plaush: More Beautiful Human Life

[3] - Zoviet France: Shadow Thief of the Sun

[3] - Zoviet France: Shouting at the Ground

[3] - Zoviet France: What Is Not True

[3] - Various: Mystery of the Yeti 2

[3] - Various: The Other World

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Re: new age voice
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 03:05:56 PM »
thank you!
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2008, 11:45:42 AM »
From the October 2002 issue of New Age Voice, in an article written by Jeff Towne and Peter Manzi, here is the actual listing from “The Most Influential Ambient Albums of All Time.” The judges who were polled for this list were:

Stephen Hill
John Diliberto
Barbara Taylor (former editor in chief of NAV)
Steve Davis (co-producer of HOS)
Howard Givens (founder and president of Spotted Peccary)
Lloyd Barde
The late PJ Birosik (president of Musik Int’l promotion firm – I assume you all know she is dead, right?)
Bryan Reesman (reviewer for NAV)
Forrest (host of Musical Starstreams; founder of Waveform Records)
Chuck van Zyl
Steve Roach
Robert Rich
Jeff Pearce
Dave Maier (Computer Music Center at Columbia U)
Jeff Towne (Echoes producer)
Peter Manzi (managing editor of NAV)

RANKED IN ORDER

1. BRIAN ENO - Ambient 1: Music for Airports
2. STEVE ROACH – Dreamtime Return
3. WENDY CARLOS – Sonic Seasonings
4. STEVE ROACH – Structures from Silence
5. MICHAEL STEARNS – Planetary Unfolding
6. BRIAN ENO – Ambient 4: On Land
7. JONN SERRIE – And The Stars Go With You
8. TERRY RILEY – A Rainbow in Curved Air
9. HAROLD BUDD AND BRIAN ENO – The Pearl
10. STEVE HILLAGE – Rainbow Dome Musick
11. PAUL HORN – Inside the Taj Mahal
12. TANGERINE DREAM – Rubycon
13. HAROLD BUDD AND BRIAN ENO – Ambient 2: The Plateaux of Mirror
14. KLAUS SCHULZE – Mirage
15. APHEX TWIN – Selected Ambient Works Volume 2
16. KLAUS SCHULZE – Timewind
17. TANGERINE DREAM – Phaedra
18. STEVE REICH – Music for 18 Musicians
19. MIKE OLDFIELD – Tubular Bells
20. MILES DAVIS – In a Silent Way
21. ASHRA – New Age of Earth
22. GLOBAL COMMUNICATION – 76:14
23. THE ORB – The Orb’s Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld
24. CONSTANCE DEMBY – Novus Magnificat
25. PETER GABRIEL – Passion

I commented on this list at the time it was published, but FTR, the biggest problem I have is with artists who record in the genre itself being selected as judges. That is just wrong, IMO. Also, several people on the list are in the business of selling or promoting music which means they could tilt this list in a direction to influence sales. IMO, the judges should have been only people with no or very little possible commercial connection to the genre, e.g. DJs, reviewers, even fans, etc. On a purely personal note, I don’t know how in the hell Robert Rich doesn’t get one single recording on this list. That’s just nuts. And I’d also wonder about Kevin Braheny being absent too, since he more or less pioneered the use of the electric woodwind in ambient music, IIRC.

Anyway, that’s the list. I’d be curious to hear others’ opinions. Remember that this list is from 2002.

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Re: new age voice
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 09:26:57 AM »

I commented on this list at the time it was published, but FTR, the biggest problem I have is with artists who record in the genre itself being selected as judges. That is just wrong, IMO.

Why do you think this is wrong? The title of the article is The Most Influential Ambient Albums of All Time, I would think if anyone should have a say as to what has been an influence it should be the artists.
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Re: new age voice
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 02:49:59 PM »
thanks for the list, bill!     ;D ;D ;D
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Re: new age voice
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 03:25:45 PM »

I commented on this list at the time it was published, but FTR, the biggest problem I have is with artists who record in the genre itself being selected as judges. That is just wrong, IMO.

Why do you think this is wrong? The title of the article is The Most Influential Ambient Albums of All Time, I would think if anyone should have a say as to what has been an influence it should be the artists.

Because you can't just have one or two artists voting then. How is having just a few artists (and the rest who are voting not being artists) going to reflect any kind of consensus? All this list tells me, using your rationale, is that Jeff Pearce, Steve Roach and Robert Rich were influenced by these albums. And also, you're assuming influential means "influenced the artists" How about influenced buying trends, radio viability, commercial appeal, artistic integrity, or how about influencing the direction the music went in? The title of the list you're proposing is "The Albums Which Most Influenced Ambient Artists", IMO.

I understand you take issue with my opinion. But that's how I see it.

Plus, from a purely personal opinion side of things, NAV was a piece of shit rag at best anyway and never thought out anything very well, IMO; they seldom did any favors for the ambient genre anyway (the occasional interview or Bogle's or Reesman's column notwithstanding) except perhaps when Pat Nugent ran it. As Taylor took it more and more toward an MOR approach, I heard from a LOT of ambient artists who felt they were being shut out.

Sorry, but TBH, I don't think any artist is that impartial that when asking them to rank influential albums, they will make an honest assessment of their own work. And that does NOT mean they will automatically rank their work higher, in fact, I'd hazard a guess just the opposite, that most would tend to be overly modest, afraid of appearing arrogant. That's why the best people to do this are journalists, DJs, and fans, because they have nothing personal at stake except their own personal opinions. Everyone else has a bias to plow through, whether positive or negative.

YMMV...

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Re: new age voice
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 03:58:41 PM »
Bill, the only thing I assumed was you wouldn't take my question personal, I guess I was wrong.  :(
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