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Echospace Detroit CD's
« on: October 01, 2014, 06:36:14 AM »
I love this dub techno label, but every time I look at their Bandcamp page, all the CD releases are sold out.  And this is stuff only out for a couple weeks.  Luckily the Amoeba record store here gets copies so I don't always miss out, but some of this stuff just can't be found anywhere after its sold out.  Anyone else into this label with similar frustration?

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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 08:03:50 AM »
I talked to Rod about it and he said many of the labels they release with insist on limited numbers and don't allow digital sales (I wanted downloads of some of the stuff!).  Yes - I find it frustrating.  I hate limited editions where there's no "normal version" and I especially hate when it's not on digital.   

I totally understand the vinyl versions - but let the rest of us hear it too!  :-)
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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 08:35:47 AM »
What do you mean "labels they release with"?  Echospace is their label.  They should be able to press as many CDs asthey want.  Please explain.

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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 09:31:17 AM »
Sorry - I was asking about a few releases not on Echospace but under the Echospace and/or Deepchord name.  I misread your post...   I don't have a good answer.
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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2014, 09:33:26 AM »
Aren't most of their label releases at least available to download?  I understand doing a small run CD release and that selling out fast - they have a fairly rabid following.  But I thought most of the Echospace label releases were still available digital.  (not as good for CD fans.. I know...)
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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 10:06:07 AM »
I collect CDs, and only want the physical product.  So if they have this obviously rabid following, and every CD shown on their bandcamp page is Sold Out almost immediately, they are doing something wrong...

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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2014, 12:11:23 PM »
I collect CDs, and only want the physical product.  So if they have this obviously rabid following, and every CD shown on their bandcamp page is Sold Out almost immediately, they are doing something wrong...

Isn't there a similar problem with the Autumn of Communion/Nacht Plank limited releases on Txt?  I think it encourages impulse buying for fear of losing out and buying for resale at a substantial markup.  Seems like a questionable ecosystem.  No thanks.

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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2014, 03:07:39 PM »
I collect CDs, and only want the physical product.  So if they have this obviously rabid following, and every CD shown on their bandcamp page is Sold Out almost immediately, they are doing something wrong...

Isn't there a similar problem with the Autumn of Communion/Nacht Plank limited releases on Txt?  I think it encourages impulse buying for fear of losing out and buying for resale at a substantial markup.  Seems like a questionable ecosystem.  No thanks.

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Very good point Forrest.  I think for a respected ambient / electronic label or artist a pressing of 300 cds is a good place to start. Maybe more depending on the artist.  The art release are understandably very limited and expensive.
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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2014, 03:57:49 PM »
Yes, with ...txt I don't even bother ordering direct.  They print 100 copies and you have to preorder months in advance.  If I really want them I've gone to Discogs.  Very expensive option. Luckily most labels have album samples so it saves you hassle and money if you wouldn't buy it anyway.  The download option is better than nothing so you don't miss out completely. 

With txt and Echospace I just don't understand these microscopic limitations.  Press more CDs, make more cash, and fans are happy.  Silent Season started increasing their pressings but CDs still sell out extremely fast, especially with certain artists.

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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2014, 04:17:03 PM »
Oh I totally forgot about getting txt CDs from Databloem.  They usually get copies of the sold out stuff.  I'd check there first before Discogs.

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Re: Echospace Detroit CD's
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2014, 04:42:34 PM »
Ear/Rational often carries ...txt releases. I'm not sure if there are any other US distributors that do so reliably, however.

The small print orders do seem a bit counterproductive. I wonder if some of the labels lack the capital to do large print runs and/or are investing the money in equipment and gear rather than in funding future releases.