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Cosmic Fabric

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Ambient on youtube
« on: September 10, 2014, 12:32:50 PM »
I've showed a friend some ambient that I enjoy, Mike Griffin, Oophoi and others in the same genre.

The guy said:

'It's lifeless simple and morbid'

On the other hand he said he enjoys a lot this one:

Dark Ambient Music - Frozen


Do you think a pretty video and images makes a bad/unnoticed track interesting and vice versa?
« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 02:25:22 PM by Cosmic Fabric »

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Re: Ambient on youtube
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 02:23:27 PM »
I am little bit against adding visuals to ambient music... it will change the way you perceive the music it will also fill in possible "void" that maybe the music is lacking.. in some cases the music is not good on its on but with added visuals it gets more stimulating.. I still think ambient music should be percived with headphones on in bed at night..with no external stimuli....

There is few exceptions ... http://www.cobaltsun.net/dvds/index.html
This visuals I think is in perfect harmony with the music on the "brain wave" level.. I have never tried a viritual headset myself..samsung just released a VR set for their Galaxy note 4... I am pretty sure this dvd would immersie my mind totally with a the VR headset would be interesting to experience...

But in most cases on youtube there is just majestic visuals added to mediocre music to add a 3rd dimension to enhance the music. But you will just notice the lack of substance in the music with the visuals are turned off.. in my opinion it is just a cheap trick to trick our minds... I think a of commercial labels without mention names use visuals to in advertising purpose to make the music more intersting then what it really is.. where the visuals gives substance to the music.. the ambient music experience should be a reflection of your on mind and let your own mind create the inner pictures.atleast for me this is what gives ambient music any substance at all...the essence in the music is where the music takes my mind...  Adding visuals in youtube videos does rearly reflect what the pictures my mind is creating...it might gives me wrong atmosphere and colors.. it gives me on wrong track..
I think the artist should be careful with adding visuals and select artwork carefully..  a lot of ambient artists have majestic and professional photographs on the cd cover, but does not reflect the music, feels in many cases it is just there to give the album "attention"..
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Cosmic Fabric

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Re: Ambient on youtube
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 02:42:01 PM »
Hallå Extasis

Yeah that was the theme we were discussing the other day, but this real case with my friend here made me bring this subject to this forum :)

He was telling me that it wasn't because of the video and he really thinks that youtube track is actually better than the artists mentioned above. But I agree with you and his mind certainly has been tricked because of the video.
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Re: Ambient on youtube
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 02:58:47 PM »
Why would you post this on the Hypnos website, specifically about Mike's music?  Seems like you could've made your point a different way.  Just my opinion.

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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 03:06:30 PM »
Why would you post this on the Hypnos website, specifically about Mike's music?  Seems like you could've made your point a different way.  Just my opinion.

Because it's an ambient related theme and I would like to read the opinion of others. Yeah you are right, I could made my point in a different way, but this is how it happened and I want to portray the conversation like it was :)

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Re: Ambient on youtube
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2014, 03:36:01 PM »
just to add..I did not imply about mikes music or video in my post... in fact I am on wifi right now at work so I have not had the chance to play the video in the first post...

I just think the audio visual..is an category on it is on with a few exceptions ass the Lynn dvd I did mention...

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 03:55:27 PM »
Of course Mike's music is great, to me that is obvious, he's one of my top artists. The question here is about visuals on ambient music and how that affects a track perception.

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2014, 03:30:24 AM »
Of course Mike's music is great, to me that is obvious, he's one of my top artists. The question here is about visuals on ambient music and how that affects a track perception.

for me personally the best ambient does not need an visuals added.  For me it destroys music in most cases and is mostly a "distraction" which does not mirror my own mind and inner visuals.  Some labels use beautiful visuals to give more substance into the music for commercials purposes, but when you then listen the music at home alone without youtube visuals it is not as interesting anymore.