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What is Youtube to you?

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mgriffin:
I've been overwhelmingly busy with "real life" for the past week-plus, and have barely peeked into the forum at all since this topic began. Although it was mostly discussing subjects (copyright, artists's right to control their own work, and sharing of music against the artist's wishes) that are often prone to flare-up, the discussion seems to have proceeded mostly in a civil direction.

I did receive complaints yesterday so I've had to pop in here and see what's up. There are many long posts and while I've gained a sense of who's arguing what, I haven't quite determined yet where any lines were crossed. I do know I feel sorry for a lapse in moderation significant enough that a respected long-time member of the forum felt insulted and angry enough to write me off-forum to complain, and say he's frustrated enough that he may not come back.

One thing I've noticed in almost every case over the years when a member has felt insulted enough to want to leave this forum, is that the person that made the comments the first member considered insulting TRULY believed their comments were harmless, and no insult was intended. I would ask everyone to bear in mind, not just on this topic or in discussion of this subject but in general, that if the person you're arguing with seems to be getting very upset and accusing you of ad hominem or personal insults, you might stop for a moment and  consider whether your rhetoric might have started shifting from the subject matter to the person.

While we (the moderators) discuss this behind the scenes, I'll ask that everyone restrain themselves in any further comments to this topic. I'm tempted to just lock it, but I believe we can all just cool down for a while.

petekelly:
It's getting kind of complicated and I'm not very good at reading long posts I should say, but there's still some interesting discussion going on here, in my view. Yes, some people should perhaps be a tad more circumspect regarding being overly direct - which could be interpreted as being personal. God knows there was some 'evil' stuff (personal attacks galore) going on years ago particularly regarding politics and the like, thankfully Mike (G) knocked that on the head.

Mike (Altus) has a pretty active Youtube channel so I think his points are certainly relevant as he sees a value in using Youtube as a promotional tool. I try to do so myself, as one of my motivations is that I actually like creating the video 'eye-candy', it's something I enjoy doing.

Unless I'm mistaken the Youtube tagging thing has changed, I can't see any tagging options recently (?) 

Scott M2:
I've found this thread interesting and stimulating. I think discussions and arguments between worthy participents are valuable but can easily end up with feathers ruffled and some cuts suffered when people swing too hard. Hopefully retreating from a thread or the forum for a week instead of leaving altogether is a viable strategy because we value our long distance friends here. Cheers!

Altus:

--- Quote from: petekelly on April 05, 2014, 09:45:38 AM ---Unless I'm mistaken the Youtube tagging thing has changed, I can't see any tagging options recently (?)
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Tags entered by the video creator are invisible to the end-user, but are used when searching and YT displaying related video suggestions.

El culto:

--- Quote from: elyon8 on April 22, 2014, 04:39:43 PM ---I think that we now in modern time are allowed to be tremendously open minded for more variety of sound and sound awareness.

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"allowed……for more variety of sound and sound awareness"  ???

Why we wasn´t allowed to be open minded before this modern time?

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