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Julio Di Benedetto

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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2014, 06:20:18 PM »
Yes Tomas....Im am wine drinker too, but Ive been watching some All Blacks Rugby history recently and some how wine just does work in that scenario, though New Zealand makes great wine so maybe. ;D

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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2014, 06:31:54 PM »
Yes Tomas....Im am wine drinker too, but Ive been watching some All Blacks Rugby history recently and some how wine just does work in that scenario, though New Zealand makes great wine so maybe. ;D

LOL  ;D

Haven´t tested any from them so far…..Actually, we have to ask APK - another wine specialist! NZ wines???

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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2014, 07:19:55 AM »
People talk about the film and music industry (dinosaurs) unable to adapt to the way things are now. Unfortunately, to adapt means doing things that seem wrong to us.

The old proverb "if you can't beat them, join them" works perfectly here. Your listeners love your music so much that they spend the time to build videos and share them with the world. If that isn't passion, I don't know what is. Treat it as word of mouth promotion, which IMO is the best kind.

Chris mentioned the human connection between artist and listener. I completely agree! Post something in the comments section. Make it known that you're aware what's happening. If it's not already in the info of the video, post links to purchase the music.

Yes yes, technically what they're doing is illegal, but if the big boys can't stop it, how can we expect to win?

The ultimate option is to beat them to the punch. Upload the music yourself and tag the shit out of it. Get listeners hitting your page instead of some random listener. Build a YouTube audience and show that you're not afraid to share an entire album. Be sure to remind them that if they enjoy the music, they can support you by purchasing it.

. . . I fully expect to get some negative reactions to this post. ;)
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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2014, 07:42:14 AM »
Quote from: Altus


The old proverb "if you can't beat them, join them" works perfectly here. Your listeners love your music so much that they spend the time to build videos and share them with the world. If that isn't passion, I don't know what is. Treat it as word of mouth promotion, which IMO is the best kind.

If they ask the artist first, then it´s not a problem at all - and asking don´t need a lot of effort. The downside is, that an artists or label may have a specific aesthetically idea about the video and its quality, because a bad video can (in some degree) ruin the music also.

Quote from: Altus

The ultimate option is to beat them to the punch. Upload the music yourself and tag the shit out of it. Get listeners hitting your page instead of some random listener. Build a YouTube audience and show that you're not afraid to share an entire album. Be sure to remind them that if they enjoy the music, they can support you by purchasing it.

That´s exactly the way how i do it (except offering an entire album) and it works very well because of the direct link in the description. Also i report illegal videos to put them down…and it has a nice side effect because too many videos (of the same track) minimize the chance, that potential fans visiting my channel.

Some good points you´ve mentioned here Altus!

Greetings,
Tomas
« Last Edit: April 05, 2014, 08:32:33 AM by El culto »

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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2014, 08:21:47 AM »
I've been overwhelmingly busy with "real life" for the past week-plus, and have barely peeked into the forum at all since this topic began. Although it was mostly discussing subjects (copyright, artists's right to control their own work, and sharing of music against the artist's wishes) that are often prone to flare-up, the discussion seems to have proceeded mostly in a civil direction.

I did receive complaints yesterday so I've had to pop in here and see what's up. There are many long posts and while I've gained a sense of who's arguing what, I haven't quite determined yet where any lines were crossed. I do know I feel sorry for a lapse in moderation significant enough that a respected long-time member of the forum felt insulted and angry enough to write me off-forum to complain, and say he's frustrated enough that he may not come back.

One thing I've noticed in almost every case over the years when a member has felt insulted enough to want to leave this forum, is that the person that made the comments the first member considered insulting TRULY believed their comments were harmless, and no insult was intended. I would ask everyone to bear in mind, not just on this topic or in discussion of this subject but in general, that if the person you're arguing with seems to be getting very upset and accusing you of ad hominem or personal insults, you might stop for a moment and  consider whether your rhetoric might have started shifting from the subject matter to the person.

While we (the moderators) discuss this behind the scenes, I'll ask that everyone restrain themselves in any further comments to this topic. I'm tempted to just lock it, but I believe we can all just cool down for a while.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2014, 08:39:53 AM by mgriffin »
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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2014, 09:45:38 AM »
It's getting kind of complicated and I'm not very good at reading long posts I should say, but there's still some interesting discussion going on here, in my view. Yes, some people should perhaps be a tad more circumspect regarding being overly direct - which could be interpreted as being personal. God knows there was some 'evil' stuff (personal attacks galore) going on years ago particularly regarding politics and the like, thankfully Mike (G) knocked that on the head.

Mike (Altus) has a pretty active Youtube channel so I think his points are certainly relevant as he sees a value in using Youtube as a promotional tool. I try to do so myself, as one of my motivations is that I actually like creating the video 'eye-candy', it's something I enjoy doing.

Unless I'm mistaken the Youtube tagging thing has changed, I can't see any tagging options recently (?) 

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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2014, 11:02:14 AM »
I've found this thread interesting and stimulating. I think discussions and arguments between worthy participents are valuable but can easily end up with feathers ruffled and some cuts suffered when people swing too hard. Hopefully retreating from a thread or the forum for a week instead of leaving altogether is a viable strategy because we value our long distance friends here. Cheers!

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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2014, 05:24:10 AM »
Unless I'm mistaken the Youtube tagging thing has changed, I can't see any tagging options recently (?)
Tags entered by the video creator are invisible to the end-user, but are used when searching and YT displaying related video suggestions.
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Re: What is Youtube to you?
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2014, 06:19:12 PM »
I think that we now in modern time are allowed to be tremendously open minded for more variety of sound and sound awareness.

"allowed……for more variety of sound and sound awareness"  ???

Why we wasn´t allowed to be open minded before this modern time?