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Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« on: July 18, 2014, 04:48:56 AM »
Hello,

Has anyone had a chance to listen to this new Steve Roach release yet? Apologies if it has already been discussed, but I couldn't find anything when I searched the forum...

http://steveroach.com/store/store.php?item=518

The samples are a little short for me to be able to deduce anything much about the music. It'd be really interesting to read your impressions. :)

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2014, 08:00:08 AM »
Hey! -  Check the bottom of the Drone Zone page:  http://somafm.com/dronezone/

AND: SomaFM and Projekt Records present the album premiere of Steve Roach's "The Delicate Forever" on Drone Zone, July 22nd at Noon Pacific Time, 3pm Eastern, 8pm (20:00) GMT.

You'll see the Relaxed Machinery / Chris Russell and DataObscura / Robert Davies premiere for tonight right about Steve Roach.

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2014, 10:15:20 AM »
The projekt website had the whole first track (24 min) up last time I checked.

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 08:36:33 PM »
The samples are much longer on Spotted Peccary --> http://spottedpeccary.com/shop/the-delicate-forever/
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2014, 12:41:46 PM »
Got the CD yesterday, it's excellent!!!  Confused on the bonus CD though, as the cover lists one track at 74 min. But there are actually TWO tracks on the disc ?.......

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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2014, 02:09:05 PM »
I like this one too.

But like many listeners, I would prefer if he went in the same vein of ''Structures from Silence'', in my opinion a well thought composition of layered sounds (thinking about the track ''Quiet Friend'), the latest works seem more random, like the stuff Ran Kirlian does...It's easy to release albums like that. ::)
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2014, 03:24:37 PM »
« Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 10:49:29 PM by Poaalpina »
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 07:22:16 PM »
The samples are much longer on Spotted Peccary --> http://spottedpeccary.com/shop/the-delicate-forever/

Thanks...

This release is sounding great. I have take the plunge. :D

I enjoyed reading people's impressions too...

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 12:59:14 PM »
In case anyone else is reading, I'm currently listening to the stream here at http://somafm.com/dronezone/ The album sounds really great and I'm glad I ordered it. Some nice, weightless, drifty stuff.
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 07:19:59 AM »
This video is wonderful... This idea of "live" abstract painting is excellent and beautifully crafted here.

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 02:04:05 PM »
Just received my discs from Steve. Beautiful album indeed, several listens pending between this and the Desert Collection which is equally superb.

Will be in Steve Roach mode for a good while methinks  8)

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2014, 03:55:29 PM »
This arrived today and I've given it a few spins.

There are some gorgeous and fresh sounding analog textures on this album, even if they'd sit comfortably with the kinds of sounds Steve has been emitting from many other releases. Still, these are luscious and beautifully subtle soundworlds, and space and silence are utilised to great effect in the music. I also prefer the darker EQing of Steve's newer stuff, but I can understand if people miss the brightness of old!

As much as one part of me enjoys the minimalism and focus of these pieces and other newer Steve Roach releases (like 'Spiral Meditations'), I do miss the days where individual tracks would have more distinct developments and contrasting sections within them. I remember often loving the majestic gear shifts throughout some tracks on The Magnificent Void, Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces, that album The Dream Circle, the Vir Unis and Vidna Obmana collaborations, and many others. But this isn't specific to Steve's output; I've noticed that a number of ambient artists I like tend to focus on one main 'idea' per track these days, whereas their past works often had more surprises and definite shifts within individual tracks.     
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2014, 12:30:30 PM »
I agree.  Steve's music has gotten more abstract, formless over the years.  I'm sure it's intentional, as he seems to be about impressionism and sound painting than structured melodic pieces like his older work. 

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2014, 02:30:03 PM »
I agree.  Steve's music has gotten more abstract, formless over the years.  I'm sure it's intentional, as he seems to be about impressionism and sound painting than structured melodic pieces like his older work.

I dunno... I would still like to hear more in the vein of MC&SS to be honest. It had the perfect blend somehow, fantastic soundworlds with just the right amount of musical touches underneath... it still has a sense of direction, structure, with interesting tonal qualities/chords, not too much, not too little... most (not all) of the later albums are far less interesting in those aspects.
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of his later albums as well, however in my view MC&SS is still the one to beat. A once in a decade masterpiece.
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2014, 02:52:45 PM »
As much as one part of me enjoys the minimalism and focus of these pieces and other newer Steve Roach releases (like 'Spiral Meditations'), I do miss the days where individual tracks would have more distinct developments and contrasting sections within them. I remember often loving the majestic gear shifts throughout some tracks on The Magnificent Void, Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces, that album The Dream Circle, the Vir Unis and Vidna Obmana collaborations, and many others. But this isn't specific to Steve's output; I've noticed that a number of ambient artists I like tend to focus on one main 'idea' per track these days, whereas their past works often had more surprises and definite shifts within individual tracks.   

I agree, well put. And it's not just about what happens in individual tracks. I also think there used to be more coherence between different tracks. The tracks on Magnificent Void and MC&SS give a bit of a sense of different movements, contrasting yet connected to each other. Certain tracks may feel like a brief interlude between two bigger ones, another track feels like a prelude to the next one etc. A good example would be the last three tracks on MC&SS disc 3. I feel a strong sense of direction there. That must be among his very finest moments, btw.
This connection between tracks is what I also miss in more recent releases.

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2014, 04:25:54 AM »
I only recently got into Steve's music thanks to the 30 years Structures From Silence release, so there is much to still discover.

I am listening to The Magnificent Void which is on spotify , deep dark and magnificent !!

Unfortunately Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is not on Spotify, so it sounds as if it is one to order urgently, thanks for the tip.


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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2014, 05:40:43 PM »
Just echoing the sentiments: I think it's safe to say that if you enjoy what you've heard of Steve's work, Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is without a doubt the cream of the crop. IMO, nothing he's released since beats it.

I'm curious to know if anyone here doesn't particularly enjoy that release? Maybe finds it over-rated?
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2014, 06:03:59 PM »
I think Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is slightly overrated. The first disc isn't that great IMO, though everything else does compensate. I still enjoy it but there are plenty of other Steve Roach albums I enjoy more.
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2014, 11:04:21 PM »
It's overrated.  I was disappointed when I received it back in 2003.  I found it hard to get into. 

Maybe nothing beats it after release, although I think pretty much everything beats it which came before  ;)

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2014, 08:09:14 AM »
I only recently got into Steve's music thanks to the 30 years Structures From Silence release, so there is much to still discover.

I am listening to The Magnificent Void which is on spotify , deep dark and magnificent !!

Unfortunately Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is not on Spotify, so it sounds as if it is one to order urgently, thanks for the tip.

welcome to the world of Steve Roach - there is a huge back catalogue for you to discover.....enjoy - look on Steve's website - there are often discs on special offer....