Author Topic: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'  (Read 2981 times)

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2014, 05:40:43 PM »
Just echoing the sentiments: I think it's safe to say that if you enjoy what you've heard of Steve's work, Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is without a doubt the cream of the crop. IMO, nothing he's released since beats it.

I'm curious to know if anyone here doesn't particularly enjoy that release? Maybe finds it over-rated?
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2014, 06:03:59 PM »
I think Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is slightly overrated. The first disc isn't that great IMO, though everything else does compensate. I still enjoy it but there are plenty of other Steve Roach albums I enjoy more.
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2014, 11:04:21 PM »
It's overrated.  I was disappointed when I received it back in 2003.  I found it hard to get into. 

Maybe nothing beats it after release, although I think pretty much everything beats it which came before  ;)

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2014, 08:09:14 AM »
I only recently got into Steve's music thanks to the 30 years Structures From Silence release, so there is much to still discover.

I am listening to The Magnificent Void which is on spotify , deep dark and magnificent !!

Unfortunately Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is not on Spotify, so it sounds as if it is one to order urgently, thanks for the tip.

welcome to the world of Steve Roach - there is a huge back catalogue for you to discover.....enjoy - look on Steve's website - there are often discs on special offer....

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2014, 02:22:17 PM »
I think Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces is slightly overrated. The first disc isn't that great IMO, though everything else does compensate. I still enjoy it but there are plenty of other Steve Roach albums I enjoy more.

For me it is the Favorited album.. 110% perfection..it is his deepest and mesmerizing album.. steve roach at his peak imo

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2014, 04:29:11 AM »
welcome to the world of Steve Roach - there is a huge back catalogue for you to discover.....enjoy - look on Steve's website - there are often discs on special offer....

Aye, thanks Seren. Have checked a good few on Spotify. Thoroughly enjoying my Desert Collection Vo1 disc, (hope there will be more in this series) and as I mentioned the Structures From Silence discs plus the new one. Excellent stuff.

Priority (amongst all the other purchases planned  ;) ) is definitely MC and SS and the Mangnificent Void CDs.

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2014, 09:03:07 AM »
Id also recommend 'On This Planet' and 'Light Fantastic'

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2014, 01:09:31 AM »
I'd also put in a vote for "Dreamtime Return." Even though Quiet Music and Structures from Silence were(and still are) tremendous albums, Dreamtime is where Roach turned a corner as an artist. He recorded it after his Australian walkabout in the late '80's and it's inspired most of his work since then. Five stars.
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2014, 08:15:55 AM »
Although my personal favorite Roach album is "Halcyon Days", I do feel that his 3 best albums that each in their own way are era defining pinnacles of different parts of his career are "Dreamtime Return", "On This Planet" and "Mystic Chords..."

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2014, 09:42:06 AM »
Structures from Silence
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2014, 06:16:14 PM »
I can say I have the Steve's whole catalog plus some. Well of Souls, On This Planet, Origins/Artifacts, MC&SS Pt 1-4, Immersion series are just a few that I really enjoy and listen to alot. Depending on the mood.  ;)

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2014, 01:22:14 PM »

however there is still too much bass frequencies rumble for my taste, maybe it is a cheap way to flirty with the more mainstream dark ambient listeners . I guess it depends on how deep your bass on your speakers go mine  go about 35hz so kind of deep. This bass drone rumble is just an irritating factor and especially for my neighbours since the bass is penetrating the walls much more then the other frequencies  For me the bass is mixed to loud, and there is really no interesting audio information in that spectrum imo the sonic depth is in the upper mid and high range.

Yeah definitely.

Maybe he's deaf for those frequencies...

I've noticed that too in other tracks from Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces:

Soulwave

Threshold

It's really annoying.

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2014, 02:49:47 AM »
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lnerell/media/Steve%20Roach/PICT0017.jpg.html

to mix bass on these speakers are probably not a good idea..I hope that it is not his mixing monitors..

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2014, 02:58:16 AM »
Show the man some respect ! I'm no Steve Roach fan-boy, but it's obvious he deeply knows what he's doing on a technical level.
A lot of artists use low frequencies to add 'weight' to their material, it's not a 'gimmick' for flips sake.



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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 AM »
A Deeper Silence
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Structures for Silence


http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lnerell/media/Steve%20Roach/PICT0017.jpg.html

to mix bass on these speakers are probably not a good idea..I hope that it is not his mixing monitors..



Those monitors look like original Mackie HR824.....a very respected monitor.  As to the bass issue I have never heard what is being described. 


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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2014, 04:05:09 AM »
Show the man some respect ! I'm no Steve Roach fan-boy, but it's obvious he deeply knows what he's doing on a technical level.
A lot of artists use low frequencies to add 'weight' to their material, it's not a 'gimmick' for flips sake.

Nicely written, Pete, I can't agree more!!!

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2014, 06:18:17 AM »
Low frequency hearing loss is a common thing that happens when you get older.

Steve Roach has been exposed many years to drones, so makes sense to me.

I can't vouch for the Mackies, but my Neumanns KH120 are well known for not having a deep bass and I can ear perfectly that constant rumble that takes away the joy of listening the other sounds that matter.


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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2014, 06:59:53 AM »
I was under the impression, that it was high frequency loss that came with age / over-exposure to loud sound over time.
I think it's more likely that you just don't like the spectral balance of the material.

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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2014, 07:27:34 AM »
Can we get a little love for my favorite, "Early Man"?

And I've spent much time with Dream Circle on endless loop...
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Re: Steve Roach, 'The Delicate Forever'
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2014, 08:13:09 AM »
Can we get a little love for my favorite, "Early Man"?

And I've spent much time with Dream Circle on endless loop...

need to spin that again....