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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 18, 2008, 09:19:56 PM »
Another one is Andrew Deutsch, The Sun, imo one of the most exquisite drone cd's there is..

I just sampled some of this and think I'm going to buy it based on your guy's rec's.  It sounds fantastic. 

I'm fairly new to the and/OAR label.  Anyone have any other favorites on their roster?  I'm thinking of also picking up Wind by Francisco Lopez. 

Windy and Carl - Dreamhouse
Numina - Sanctuary of Dreams

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 15, 2008, 03:55:38 PM »
Today's a Flying Saucer Attack kinda day: "New Lands". 

"Up in Her Eyes"  is a favorite of mine...hmm, I think I'll put that on now too

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Lustmord - Other
« on: July 15, 2008, 03:52:40 PM »
This should be interesting considering the collaborators (from Melvins, Isis, and Tool) on the new project.  Wonder if they will add or take away from his atmosphere. 

Lustmord did do a project with the Melvins (pigs of the roman empire) and it was pretty great.  However it did feel like a Melvins album with Lustmord interludes.  As a Melvins fan I have no problem with that.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Lustmord - Other
« on: July 13, 2008, 03:11:31 PM »
July 22nd release

"O T H E R features appearances by Adam Jones (Tool), King Buzzo (Melvins) and Aaron Turner (Isis).
Eight tracks in all, including a version of "Prime" from the Juggernaut teaser, with a total length of just over 78 minutes."

Anyone else looking forward to this one?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: July 09, 2008, 07:32:42 PM »
This wasn't mentioned on Steve's site that I could find but Empetus is getting a 2-Disc re-treatment:

No wonder he's been doing a bit of sequencer pieces lately

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 09, 2008, 07:30:06 PM »
Sawako - Bitter Sweet (12k)

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 07, 2008, 09:38:54 PM »
Just got the Tangerine Dream Bootleg Box Set (volume 1).  It's seven discs and it'll tide me over for a while

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: July 07, 2008, 09:36:38 PM »
I've been listening to A Deeper Silence a lot and it's finally grown on me.  At first I didn't like it much at all, kind of frightening and empty.  It took me a while to feel comfortable with it.  Listen to it quite often now, but don't really heed Steve's advice about keeping it at low volume.  This one needs to be a bit louder.  If it's down too low you can't hear the treble but if it's too loud the bass really gets through the music.  Gotta balance it just right.


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: June 12, 2008, 05:49:25 AM »
lately I've been listening a lot to

Stars of the Lid - Carte De Visite
Kranky recently announced that they have a lot of their tour CD left and they are selling them for $15ppd.  I'm liking it a lot so far. 

M83 - Digital Shades
This took quite a while to grow on me but now I love it. 

Steve Roach - Immersion Three

Matmos - Supreme Balloon

And (non Electronic)
New Weezer and Sun Kil Moon

Just wondering if anyone else has heard this recording.  I can't vouch for his other releases but I have really been getting a lot out of this one over the last four months.
(click on the tracks that say "ensemble chord" for the sample tracks)
This is some great minimal drone, ala Deep Listening/Oliveros!

I'm interested in this Yui Onodera fellow.  Would anyone have any recommendations? 

Well I'll stand corrected then  :D

When I said objective I guess I just was lazily stating that I want someone who can be true to the genre that they intend to write about.  Toop as you pointed out is another story, but Prendergast's book was very disappointing to me.  His musical references were all over the map!     


I think Jason already did that, Bill. Check 'comments' at the bottom of the VV article:,where-have-all-the-space-cowboys-gone,440960,22.html?c=1#comments

I guess I was thinking of getting something into print - hard copy. Or was this article only on the 'net? Did the original article also appear in the hard copy version?


I've been waiting for someone knowledgeable to write an objective summary of Ambient music.  The articles on the net mostly favor name dropping over writing skills and the books I've read on the subject are mostly poor (I'm thinking of David Toop and Prendergast's tome).  Toop is a good writer though, I'll give him that. 

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Now reading
« on: May 14, 2008, 03:36:41 AM »
Now reading

The Terror - Dan Simmons
I find this to be an incredible idea/storyline and a remarkable setting for the novel but I'm pretty much let down by it now and I'm mid way through it.  It's just kind of slow and very little seems to be happening.  And none of the more terrifying moments in the novel have registered with me psychologically at all.  It's funny, before I read this I picked up Song of Kali and loved it from start to finish.  That one has a much more urgent tone than this one. 

Winter World - Bernd Heinrich
Non Fiction.  About the changes in animal behavior when adapting to winter weather.  Just started it so I can't go into details.   

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: May 14, 2008, 03:19:27 AM »
For me, The Magnificent Void is one of the most successful attempts to portray nothingness with something - not an easy thing to do at the best of times

It's a great disc and definitely one of his best in my collection so far. 

I kid you not the first time I put this one on I had a fearful reaction to it after about 20 minutes.  Had to turn the lights back on and put the headphones away for a while!  haha

My copy of "Somewhere Else" arrived by Post yesterday.  It's great.  Can't wait to explore more of these Immersion style pieces of his. 

9dragons, look out for the new Lovecraft compendium (though it says it has everything, who knows)

You guys are a fantastic label.  I plan on getting the Parks cd as soon as I get more money (I just spent over $100 on Steve Roach alone today).

The Aloof Proof re-release has been one of my favorite purchases of the year so far!  Don't think I will ever tire of that one.  And the above posted Milieu is a constant companion as well. 

Anyway, cheers and keep up the good work

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: May 09, 2008, 07:06:25 AM »
Hey guys!  First time post here.  Had to bump this thread  ;D

I've been a long time Roach fan after I got hooked on the Ambient genre care of Aphex Twin, Stars of the Lid, and Eno's stuff.  Kept delving deeper into the genre and bumped head first into this monolithic figure.  I'm planning on buying all of his work eventually (guess that would consider me a fanboy). 

For those who care to know, "A Deeper Silence" is now shipping from his site ($15, I just filled my order).  And I also picked up a host of his other releases that I haven't heard yet (On This Planet, Western Spaces, Immersion One, Innerzone, and Somewhere Else).  A couple of those were inspired by the posts from this thread.

I love Arc of Passion.  I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet but it really harkens back to the Berlin School of early ambient.  The Arpeggiated synths remind me a lot of Timewind Klaus Schulze.  But of course Roach doesn't ape his predecessors, he embellishes the style with his creative cavernous synth style that he heavily developed on Mystic Chords.  And Loren, I don't mind the break between disc 1 and 2 at all!  I consider it an intermission (I'd have a cigarette if I smoked).

Most of you I know love the guy, but if you want to get someone interested in his stuff I'd suggest buying them a copy of "Space and Time."  It's a 20 track mix that Roach created and it runs the gamut.  But it's smoothly put together.  I bough my brother a copy used for a couple bucks and now he's hooked too. 

I find it odd that nearly no one (I think) had mentioned the Magnificent Void yet.  Pretty stunning work, though I don't play it very often.  Almost too deep maybe?


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