Started by mgriffin, December 07, 2007, 09:39:14 AM
Quote from: mgriffin on December 07, 2007, 11:14:16 AMI'd add, furthering the subject of "college lit majors who are too cool to read sci-fi," that I recall it was "cool" for lit majors to read stuff like Philip K. Dick, Stanislav Lem, J.G. Ballard, and Anthony Burgess, while turning up our noses at Heinlein, Asimov and the like.
Quote from: Brian Bieniowski on December 07, 2007, 10:53:56 AMI'm a big sci-fi and fantasy reader myself (who'd have guessed). I haven't picked up an Earthsea book since high school, but, back then, I don't recall them making much of an impact on me. I'd like to try them again, though. I've enjoyed Le Guin's science fiction novels.I just finished reading The Golden Compass and I am halfway through the second book in the Philip Pullman series. I would like to add my name to the list of Harry Potter Haters, and I confess I dismissed the Pullman books as of the same diluted ilk. I couldn't have been more wrong—these are surprisingly adult and ambitious books, and I can't wait to see the movie now!
Quote from: mgriffin on December 07, 2007, 12:48:57 PMMy understanding is that LeGuin wrote the original Earthsea trilogy right around the same time, then much later wrote another novel in the series, and then another. At some point there was a collection of short stories set in the Earthsea world, with less of a direct connection to the story of the novels.Exactly. There was a large gap between book 3 and 4 and a shorter gap between 4 and 5.And yes, I read her complaints about the Sci-Fi Channel adaptation of the first book. Sounds like the producers weren't exactly acting in good faith.
Quote from: Brian Bieniowski on December 07, 2007, 12:10:20 PMQuote from: mgriffin on December 07, 2007, 11:14:16 AMI'd add, furthering the subject of "college lit majors who are too cool to read sci-fi," that I recall it was "cool" for lit majors to read stuff like Philip K. Dick, Stanislav Lem, J.G. Ballard, and Anthony Burgess, while turning up our noses at Heinlein, Asimov and the like.SF has gotten more acceptable for lit majors in some colleges, where it's taught alongside the "real" literature. Interestingly enough, the older masters like Asimov still get passed over for more "respectable" names like PK Dick and Lem. It's preposterous of course, but I guess it fits the typical college curriculum. I enjoy Ballard and Lem and Delany and all the rest, but I'd never have become interested in SF if it were not for Asimov and Blish and many of the other old timers. I find that most of those books are still compulsively readable ... not something I can say about many of the more experimental works by "acceptably hip" SF writers.ß
Quote from: Brian Bieniowski on December 08, 2007, 02:20:40 PMMike, I think writers like Greg Bear and Greg Benford are extremely important because there are fewer and fewer real "hard" SF authors who really get their hands dirty with the scientific aspects of their books. These two are certainly titans from that perspective. Unfortunately (especially for those of us in the business who edit science fiction and not fantasy) it would seem the more rigorous kinds of SF are somewhat out of fashion in favor of other things. I would highly recommend the recent books of Robert Charles Wilson and Robert Sawyer to you, if you're looking for cool concepts and interesting science (not to mention deft storytelling).