Started by Julio Di Benedetto, January 06, 2011, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: mgriffin on January 07, 2011, 09:48:31 AMThe bottom line is that things are changing in a way that is uncomfortable and difficult for everyone who was at all accustomed to the old, traditional ways of the music business. By that model, recording artists made music, possibly with the help of engineers and producers, which was picked up by a record label and made into records, tapes or CDs, and mostly sold through wholesale distributors in retail record shops. There are still groups and individuals making music, but just about all other aspects of that old model have changed. Record retail is almost completely gone. Imagine if, in the mid-nineties, someone had told you "In less than 20 years, Tower Records will be gone, Camelot Music will be gone, Sam Goody will be gone, Musicland will be gone, Virgin Megastores gone, probably 9 out of your 10 favorite local or indie record stores that exist now... all will be completely gone." You would have thought that person was insane. Now, just about the only people selling CDs in quantity in retail stores nationwide are Wal-Mart, Target, Costco, and Best Buy... not exactly record stores.Like I said, an interesting subject.
Quote from: Julio Di Benedetto on January 08, 2011, 05:55:22 AMOn the other hand, the ease with which people can share free bootlegs has undercut not just the mainstream music business, but also the independent scene. It has rendered the music disposable in many people's minds, which can get discouraging for someone who spends a year or more on a new release. People don't realize that someone like me might only sell a thousand copies of an album, compared to tens of thousands of free copies shared. [...] The only way to survive in "free culture" is to remain enough well-liked by the listeners who follow one's artwork that they *want* to pay for music as a show of support, as a vote of confidence. Without those few supportive listeners, it would get rather discouraging.
Quote from: doombient on January 08, 2011, 06:09:48 AMQuote from: Julio Di Benedetto on January 08, 2011, 05:55:22 AMOn the other hand, the ease with which people can share free bootlegs has undercut not just the mainstream music business, but also the independent scene. It has rendered the music disposable in many people's minds, which can get discouraging for someone who spends a year or more on a new release. People don't realize that someone like me might only sell a thousand copies of an album, compared to tens of thousands of free copies shared. [...] The only way to survive in "free culture" is to remain enough well-liked by the listeners who follow one's artwork that they *want* to pay for music as a show of support, as a vote of confidence. Without those few supportive listeners, it would get rather discouraging.Very much spot-on observation by Robert. What I find even more appalling in this context is those supportive listeners who, in the end, upload your stuff somewhere on the web without wasting a single thought on what detrimental effect it may have on your own work.Stephen
Quote from: 9dragons on January 07, 2011, 05:02:42 PMIt is interesting that publishing seems to be going in the same direction (though there are many dissimilarities as well). I really feel that the digital world plays a crucial role, and that the high quality packaging will become stronger to appeal to the holdouts. As someone who makes books, I don't feel threatened by mass market paperbacks going digital, in fact I think it's a good thing. It could very well end up strengthening the world of very high quality (though admittedly possibly prohibitively expensive to many consumers) book making and publishing.
Quote from: Dave Michuda on January 08, 2011, 07:19:29 AMJust thought I'd re-post a comment made recently by Brian Eno that is applicable to this discussion."I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason why anyone should have made so much money from selling records except that everything was right for this period of time. I always knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate – history's moving along. Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will replace it." - Brian Eno from an interview in The Guardian
Quote from: mgriffin on January 08, 2011, 08:55:49 AMI was about to quote exactly the same section of Robert's remarks, until I saw you did already!The key here is that if you give listeners something truly special, as Robert does, they will love it, and appreciate you for giving it to them to such a degree that many of them will want to support you. [...] It's up to us as music-makers, whether we're artists doing our own thing, or small labels working with multiple artists, to give people recordings they feel strongly enough about to break through the large amount of music readily available, often free. If we can't do that, then we shouldn't blame net labels or the mp3 format or convenience or ipods or cheap CDRs.
Quote from: jimzzzak on January 09, 2011, 05:41:14 AMI do like special editions, and I have plenty of them, but the reality is that on the server, I now have much easier access to all my music. It's playing constantly when I'm home. Whether it's a special edition or a set a files, it all sounds and looks the same on the server. Here's my interface: server
Quote from: Julio Di Benedetto on January 09, 2011, 07:50:14 AM I think if music @44 or 96/24 bit was made available by artist and playback of such files was only capable via computers, Im not sure if any hardware plays back at 24bit, the idea of a cd doesn't work because it cant store a 96/24 file, well not much of what we come accustomed as the standard length of 74 mins. Dvd could be and option. I think it will be usb flash drives or something of the like, they are to expensive right now to make it a viable option but I think we could be really close. With the large store capacity of some of these drives, music, artwork, photography & video could be available. Im not sure about downloading......I dont know enough about flac to be able to say if it could handle 96/24 or even 192/24.I dont think receiving a flash drive in the mail equates that of receiving a beautiful packaged digipack......however what I describe above perhaps would change how I feel.